Boston / Detroit Deal: Reuniting Rondo with Smith

[OneBadMutha]

If Pistons trade for Rondo, it likely includes Monroe and start another shooter on the wing in his place. It would work. Just don't think you pass on Rondos talent if he's available.

[bennett13]

I think if we got Rondo and Green it'd put us in the same conversation as Indy, Knicks, Net, and Bulls.

[wallacex2jc]

I would give up Monroe along with an expiring contract and/maybe a future pick for Rondo and Green. Because I cannot imagine Monroe giving enough effort on the defensive end for us to win. I can't envision Greg Monroe diving for a loose ball when we lead 2-0 in a playoff series (if we ever do, in the near future). Granted, he's pretty damn good, but like Grant Hill, I don't think I'll like Monroe (a finesse player) more than someone whose not afraid to go for anything. Point is, it's not the players who can change a winning mentality, it's the culture that changes. When we made to the playoffs in 03 and went to the ECF with Billups, Hamilton, Williamson, Cliff Robinson, Wallace, Curry and a brand of role players, there weren't any stars. When Chicago won a playoff series this year with nobody being healthy on the roster, their defensive identity propelled them. When Spurs made the finals this year with a bunch of old players and a brand of undrafted free agents, who would've thought they could be seconds away from a chip.

When everyone on the team is committed to do one thing, whether or not is defense, rebounding, unselfish passing, etc. then this culture will be hard to beat.

[wallacex2jc]

Im really concerned about Boston fans. I understand what type of player Rondo is, and how much you value him, but he really isn't the type of player our team needs. You can say something is worth-X but only if that person is willing to pay that.

What sense is there in us giving up one of our big men, for Rondo? He cant shoot the ball, wich we need, and if we trade away one of our bigs, that's one less person for him to pass to when he slashes.

Just doesn't make any sense. Your stuck with him.

Shooters, yes we do need them, but I don't think they HAVE to be starters. For example, Ray Allen, Mike Miller and Shane Battier (Miami's snipers), all came off the bench playing around 20-25 min per game. You don't always need an elite shooter in the starting line up, if we have two or three decent shooters of the coming off the bench, we will be fine.

[Liqourish]

Im really concerned about Boston fans. I understand what type of player Rondo is, and how much you value him, but he really isn't the type of player our team needs. You can say something is worth-X but only if that person is willing to pay that.

What sense is there in us giving up one of our big men, for Rondo? He cant shoot the ball, wich we need, and if we trade away one of our bigs, that's one less person for him to pass to when he slashes.

Just doesn't make any sense. Your stuck with him.

Shooters, yes we do need them, but I don't think they HAVE to be starters. For example, Ray Allen, Mike Miller and Shane Battier (Miami's snipers), all came off the bench playing around 20-25 min per game. You don't always need an elite shooter in the starting line up, if we have two or three decent shooters of the coming off the bench, we will be fine.

But if these shooters don't have to be starters, why are we trading Monroe? First, he has a midrange game and can knock down a jumper, and second if we want shooters off the bench, why trade our productive young big man for a non shooting PG that would have one less target to pass to?

[ComboGuardCity]

If Josh Smith isn't working here, we can reunite him with Rondo...in Boston

Josh Smith for Green/Lee.

[OneBadMutha]

Im really concerned about Boston fans. I understand what type of player Rondo is, and how much you value him, but he really isn't the type of player our team needs. You can say something is worth-X but only if that person is willing to pay that.

What sense is there in us giving up one of our big men, for Rondo? He cant shoot the ball, wich we need, and if we trade away one of our bigs, that's one less person for him to pass to when he slashes.

Just doesn't make any sense. Your stuck with him.

Shooters, yes we do need them, but I don't think they HAVE to be starters. For example, Ray Allen, Mike Miller and Shane Battier (Miami's snipers), all came off the bench playing around 20-25 min per game. You don't always need an elite shooter in the starting line up, if we have two or three decent shooters of the coming off the bench, we will be fine.

But if these shooters don't have to be starters, why are we trading Monroe? First, he has a midrange game and can knock down a jumper, and second if we want shooters off the bench, why trade our productive young big man for a non shooting PG that would have one less target to pass to?

It's because Rondo is a special playmaker. He doesn't need a lot of space or a team built special for him. The fast break would be ridiculous. Defense and rebounding for his position are near the top of the league. The pick and roll would be awesome with him and Drummond. Wing players would get plenty of open shots. Collapsing on him doesn't stop him from finding guys for good shots.

[Pharaoh]

Getting Rondo by giving up Monroe is counter productive.

We want to add another piece to what we have - not swap one quality piece for another.

[Liqourish]

Shooters, yes we do need them, but I don't think they HAVE to be starters. For example, Ray Allen, Mike Miller and Shane Battier (Miami's snipers), all came off the bench playing around 20-25 min per game. You don't always need an elite shooter in the starting line up, if we have two or three decent shooters of the coming off the bench, we will be fine.

But if these shooters don't have to be starters, why are we trading Monroe? First, he has a midrange game and can knock down a jumper, and second if we want shooters off the bench, why trade our productive young big man for a non shooting PG that would have one less target to pass to?

It's because Rondo is a special playmaker. He doesn't need a lot of space or a team built special for him. The fast break would be ridiculous. Defense and rebounding for his position are near the top of the league. The pick and roll would be awesome with him and Drummond. Wing players would get plenty of open shots. Collapsing on him doesn't stop him from finding guys for good shots.

I disagree with your opinion of Rondo. He was a "special playmaker" playing alongside three HOFers, including Ray Allen and Paul Pierce on the wings. He wouldn't be so special playing alongside a rookie and Kyle Singler on the wings. He's also coming off a horrid injury and isn't 100% yet, which would set back our "win now" mode that making such a move would entail. And the price Boston wants for him is astronomical. Would not touch him. Especially for one of our young bigs.

[wallacex2jc]

But if these shooters don't have to be starters, why are we trading Monroe? First, he has a midrange game and can knock down a jumper, and second if we want shooters off the bench, why trade our productive young big man for a non shooting PG that would have one less target to pass to?

It's because Rondo is a special playmaker. He doesn't need a lot of space or a team built special for him. The fast break would be ridiculous. Defense and rebounding for his position are near the top of the league. The pick and roll would be awesome with him and Drummond. Wing players would get plenty of open shots. Collapsing on him doesn't stop him from finding guys for good shots.

I disagree with your opinion of Rondo. He was a "special playmaker" playing alongside three HOFers, including Ray Allen and Paul Pierce on the wings. He wouldn't be so special playing alongside a rookie and Kyle Singler on the wings. He's also coming off a horrid injury and isn't 100% yet, which would set back our "win now" mode that making such a move would entail. And the price Boston wants for him is astronomical. Would not touch him. Especially for one of our young bigs.

If I get Green and Rondo I'd do it. While I disagree with your opinion of "special playmaker", his defense, rebound and desire have never been questioned.

[Natopher]

FT shooting gets REALLY sketchy with Rondo, Smith and Drummond all playing major roles. We can't take them ALL off the court in crunch time...

[Liqourish]

FT shooting gets REALLY sketchy with Rondo, Smith and Drummond all playing major roles. We can't take them ALL off the court in crunch time...

That too. There are many reasons that Rondo is a bad fit.

[bostonfan34]

PArtial tear sounds encouraging. Also, I think Amare had microfracture, which is a pain (I know, I had it done). So maybe getting Rondo would be ok, but we can't give up Monroe, Drummond, Smith, or KCP. THis is a salary dump/tank move for Boston.

So you can't give up any of your top four assets, and think a deal can be made for Rajon Rondo?

Warning to Pistons fans who don't want RR: Ainge is as crafty and as patient as ever at the moment, while Dumars is fighting for his job. If a trade happens between these two teams, Drummond or Monroe is going to Boston.

And just for the record, it is going to be a looooooonnnnnggggggg time before Boston ever has a better record than the Pistons.

Haha - wanna bet? I give it two years.

[MrBigShot]

PArtial tear sounds encouraging. Also, I think Amare had microfracture, which is a pain (I know, I had it done). So maybe getting Rondo would be ok, but we can't give up Monroe, Drummond, Smith, or KCP. THis is a salary dump/tank move for Boston.

So you can't give up any of your top four assets, and think a deal can be made for Rajon Rondo?

Warning to Pistons fans who don't want RR: Ainge is as crafty and as patient as ever at the moment, while Dumars is fighting for his job. If a trade happens between these two teams, Drummond or Monroe is going to Boston.

Drummond is untradeable.

[Spider156]

I can see us getting rid of Knight, Stuckey, and CV for Rondo. I wouldn't be surprised to see Monroe go either. But if that were to happen, we would need to get a SF back. Say Wallace or Jeff Green.

[theBigLip]

So you can't give up any of your top four assets, and think a deal can be made for Rajon Rondo?

Warning to Pistons fans who don't want RR: Ainge is as crafty and as patient as ever at the moment, while Dumars is fighting for his job. If a trade happens between these two teams, Drummond or Monroe is going to Boston.

And just for the record, it is going to be a looooooonnnnnggggggg time before Boston ever has a better record than the Pistons.

Haha - wanna bet? I give it two years.

Ok. In the 2015-16 season, everyday that the Celtics have a better record than the Pistons, I'll use a Cetics logo as my avatar. And everyday the Pistons have a better record, you get to post their wonderful logo

Now if we could just put an auto-reminder on these posts, that would be fantastic.

[theBigLip]

I can see us getting rid of Knight, Stuckey, and CV for Rondo. I wouldn't be surprised to see Monroe go either. But if that were to happen, we would need to get a SF back. Say Wallace or Jeff Green.

The first trade? Yes. But Monroe is going nowhere, especially for an injured PG who were not sure how he will recover.