I rather have Rasheed Wallace then Bill Laimbeer.

[Laimbeer]

We have no idea how Sheed will be as a coach - all this stuff is just an emotional reaction. Laimbeer clearly has the greater coaching background. He's also the guy that maximized his abilities while Sheed often tainted his with his antics. I'll let everyone else circulate the rumors about Laimbeer having other issues. I'm just not sure what's true. And any player who listens to a coach more because he saw him play really needs to think again.

Technically, you have no idea ho Laimbeer would be as an NBA coach. Please don't use WNBA as some pedigree, and even if you do, don't forget to mention the fact he had players that outright hated him.

I'd take WBNA experience and success over nothing. Players hating him is speculation and the rumor mill. At any rate, I'm perfectly happy with a winning team that hates their coach.

[zeebneeb]

We have no idea how Sheed will be as a coach - all this stuff is just an emotional reaction. Laimbeer clearly has the greater coaching background. He's also the guy that maximized his abilities while Sheed often tainted his with his antics. I'll let everyone else circulate the rumors about Laimbeer having other issues. I'm just not sure what's true. And any player who listens to a coach more because he saw him play really needs to think again.

Technically, you have no idea ho Laimbeer would be as an NBA coach. Please don't use WNBA as some pedigree, and even if you do, don't forget to mention the fact he had players that outright hated him.

As a fan, I could care less if the players hated his guts. He won titles did he not?

That's what matters.

[Laimbeer]

We have no idea how Sheed will be as a coach - all this stuff is just an emotional reaction. Laimbeer clearly has the greater coaching background. He's also the guy that maximized his abilities while Sheed often tainted his with his antics. I'll let everyone else circulate the rumors about Laimbeer having other issues. I'm just not sure what's true. And any player who listens to a coach more because he saw him play really needs to think again.

Technically, you have no idea ho Laimbeer would be as an NBA coach. Please don't use WNBA as some pedigree, and even if you do, don't forget to mention the fact he had players that outright hated him.

As a fan, I could care less if the players hated his guts. He won titles did he not?

That's what matters.

Yup, and I really wonder if Sheed will be too much of a buddy type and if he'll have the maturity.

[ComboGuardCity]

We have no idea how Sheed will be as a coach - all this stuff is just an emotional reaction. Laimbeer clearly has the greater coaching background. He's also the guy that maximized his abilities while Sheed often tainted his with his antics. I'll let everyone else circulate the rumors about Laimbeer having other issues. I'm just not sure what's true. And any player who listens to a coach more because he saw him play really needs to think again.

Technically, you have no idea ho Laimbeer would be as an NBA coach. Please don't use WNBA as some pedigree, and even if you do, don't forget to mention the fact he had players that outright hated him.

I'd take WBNA experience and success over nothing. Players hating him is speculation and the rumor mill. At any rate, I'm perfectly happy with a winning team that hates their coach.

I'm sure there is no bias here.

[DetroitSho]

We have no idea how Sheed will be as a coach - all this stuff is just an emotional reaction. Laimbeer clearly has the greater coaching background. He's also the guy that maximized his abilities while Sheed often tainted his with his antics. I'll let everyone else circulate the rumors about Laimbeer having other issues. I'm just not sure what's true. And any player who listens to a coach more because he saw him play really needs to think again.

Technically, you have no idea ho Laimbeer would be as an NBA coach. Please don't use WNBA as some pedigree, and even if you do, don't forget to mention the fact he had players that outright hated him.

As a fan, I could care less if the players hated his guts. He won titles did he not?

That's what matters.

Yeah, because rubbing people the wrong way when you are trying to get through to them shouldn't matter huh? It's the freaking WNBA by the way. Why nobody ever wants to hire Michael Cooper to coach the Pistons? I never hear his name for some reason.

[zeebneeb]

Technically, you have no idea ho Laimbeer would be as an NBA coach. Please don't use WNBA as some pedigree, and even if you do, don't forget to mention the fact he had players that outright hated him.

As a fan, I could care less if the players hated his guts. He won titles did he not?

That's what matters.

Yeah, because rubbing people the wrong way when you are trying to get through to them shouldn't matter huh? It's the freaking WNBA by the way. Why nobody ever wants to hire Michael Cooper to coach the Pistons? I never hear his name for some reason.

Im going to give you an example. A director, ahem, a good director need not be friends with his actors in order to pull a great performance out of them. In a matter of fact, its usually the great directors who are not friends with their actors.

Respect is something that is very important within a setting such as this, far more so then being a "buddy".

[Clarity]

Rasheed>Bill

Rasheed is the best post player we have ever had in the D. Period

[zeebneeb]

Rasheed>Bill

Rasheed is the best post player we have ever had in the D. Period

I trust you have been watching basketball for quite awhile then right?

[Clarity]

Rasheed>Bill

Rasheed is the best post player we have ever had in the D. Period

I trust you have been watching basketball for quite awhile then right?

im 32 now, since I was 5

[zeebneeb]

As a matter of fact, im going to expand upon this a little. I would pick Laimbeer every day. Laimbeer was a better player, and Laimbeer worked his ass off.

Sheed was more talented, without question, but his work ethic was crap. Rasheed Wallace, with more drive, and a better work ethic could have been one of the best players in league history.

I would still pick Laimbeer, 10times out of 10.

[Clarity]

As a matter of fact, im going to expand upon this a little. I would pick Laimbeer every day. Laimbeer was a better player, and Laimbeer worked his ass off.

Sheed was more talented, without question, but his work ethic was crap. Rasheed Wallace, with more drive, and a better work ethic could have been one of the best players in league history.

I would still pick Laimbeer, 10times out of 10.

Rasheed definitely didnt have the drive to fulfill his ceiling, that's not debatable but labeling his work ethic as "crap" is ridiculous.

His DNA is not a #1, he never wanted to be a star, hes too much of a team guy. & yes you can actually be too much about team, stars are still about I, Sheed has never been about I even a bit & that held him back.

[ComboGuardCity]

As a fan, I could care less if the players hated his guts. He won titles did he not?

That's what matters.

Yeah, because rubbing people the wrong way when you are trying to get through to them shouldn't matter huh? It's the freaking WNBA by the way. Why nobody ever wants to hire Michael Cooper to coach the Pistons? I never hear his name for some reason.

Im going to give you an example. A director, ahem, a good director need not be friends with his actors in order to pull a great performance out of them. In a matter of fact, its usually the great directors who are not friends with their actors.

Respect is something that is very important within a setting such as this, far more so then being a "buddy".

Respect differs from resentment. A toxic lockeroom is the product of the latter.

[Pharaoh]

Respect goes both ways... and if a coach is "too hard" on a player then you've got trouble

For some players there is no such thing as being pushed "too hard" - they don't just want to improve, they're driven by something that you simply can't define

For others "too hard" could mean shouting at them, could mean addressing them in front of the team, could mean anything really. These guys we call "sensitive"... but as a Coach it's part of the job to know where the limit is with each and every player under your command.

It's the same for any manager in any industry.You have to know which buttons to push, when to push them and how hard to push them with each individual. If you don't know that then you're likely to fail

In my experience a lot of people WANT to improve, want to listen, want to deliver. There is just something inside us that makes us want to get praise and deliver for our "boss" or whomever is asking something of us... we all want to respond like champions!

Others will walk away and find a quiet corner to cry their eyes out while rocking back and forth!

You don't want any of them!

[DetroitSho]

As a matter of fact, im going to expand upon this a little. I would pick Laimbeer every day. Laimbeer was a better player, and Laimbeer worked his ass off.

Sheed was more talented, without question, but his work ethic was crap. Rasheed Wallace, with more drive, and a better work ethic could have been one of the best players in league history.

I would still pick Laimbeer, 10times out of 10.

What does this have to do with teaching big men things like footwork, post D, keeping hands high on D, hedging the p&r, keeping the ball high on O, a turn around jumper, communicating on D, shot blocking techniques and a midrange game? Laimbeer possesses some of these abilities. Sheed possesses ALL of these. There's literally nothing on a basketball court Laimbeer can do Sheed can't. Add to the fact Sheed can probably communicate these things better than Bill. Hell, Laimbeer was a better player than Roy Rogers but Roy did a helluva job with the guys. Imagine a guy who had elite ability in all the mentioned areas teaching them.

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[zeebneeb]

As a matter of fact, im going to expand upon this a little. I would pick Laimbeer every day. Laimbeer was a better player, and Laimbeer worked his ass off.

Sheed was more talented, without question, but his work ethic was crap. Rasheed Wallace, with more drive, and a better work ethic could have been one of the best players in league history.

I would still pick Laimbeer, 10times out of 10.

What does this have to do with teaching big men things like footwork, post D, keeping hands high on D, hedging the p&r, keeping the ball high on O, a turn around jumper, communicating on D, shot blocking techniques and a midrange game? Laimbeer possesses some of these abilities. Sheed possesses ALL of these. There's literally nothing on a basketball court Laimbeer can do Sheed can't. Add to the fact Sheed can probably communicate these things better than Bill. Hell, Laimbeer was a better player than Roy Rogers but Roy did a helluva job with the guys. Imagine a guy who had elite ability in all the mentioned areas teaching them.

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Well, Laimbeer won two titles as a player, and as a head coach. He obviously knows what hes doing.

I understand that Rasheed is there to be a bigman coach more then anything, but I love Bills passion, and I think that goes a long way.

That and talking about what Rasheed can do on the court vs Laimbeer? In theory, Rasheeds talent blows Bills out of the water, as I have stated before. With that said, Bill left everything out on the court, and played until he was exhausted, and never gave up. That and he was a better rebounder by a fair margin. Rasheed when focused, was unstoppable in the post. I mean just absurd down there. I remember a few games vs Indiana where he was just taunting the Pacers, waiting for the shot clock to go to nothing, and hit fadeaway 20 footers.

Man was he unreal when focused. I think I may talk myself out of my position if I keep typing.

[MrBigShot]

As a matter of fact, im going to expand upon this a little. I would pick Laimbeer every day. Laimbeer was a better player, and Laimbeer worked his ass off.

Sheed was more talented, without question, but his work ethic was crap. Rasheed Wallace, with more drive, and a better work ethic could have been one of the best players in league history.

I would still pick Laimbeer, 10times out of 10.

Rasheed definitely didnt have the drive to fulfill his ceiling, that's not debatable but labeling his work ethic as "crap" is ridiculous.

His DNA is not a #1, he never wanted to be a star, hes too much of a team guy. & yes you can actually be too much about team, stars are still about I, Sheed has never been about I even a bit & that held him back.

Had to quote this because it's so important. Rasheed gets a bad rep sometimes, but he was a great teammate. Never hear anyone say anything but positive things about him, and you can see it on the court. He talks on defense, and steps up for teammates if someone tries to start something(still remember him and Big Ben scaring the hell out of Alonzo Mourning after he pushed Tay).

Maybe with a different mentality he would have been better than KG and Duncan. More range on his shot, every bit the post player with his unstoppable fadeaway, athletic, high bball iq and incredible defense when he put his mind to it. Remember he shut down Dwight routinely in the playoffs single coverage.

He never wanted to be the "guy" like Clarity said...and maybe it held him back, but in the end he pushed us over the top and we wouldn't have a 3rd championship without him.