NBA Summer League Thread - v2

[need4detroit]

What did DraftExpress think about Bismack Biyombo's potential? Thomas Robinson's game translating into a "safe" NBA draft pick? They loved Derrick Williams and Michael Beasley. Jan Vesely, too.

Can you imagine if we went back and looked at everyone they have had projected as the #1 overall prospect?

They are my favorite NBA draft site but they have been wrong many, many times. I don't consider their scouting report on KCP to be the end of all debate about KCP's potential NBA game before he even plays in his very first Preseason.

& draftexpress is easily the best draft site out there.

Youre commenting on 22 year old players as if their careers are done. lol

In Biyombos case, how were they off on his potential?? He still has insane potential.. Potential is just that, potential. Robinson has been in the league 1 year, pump your breaks.

I get what you mean in that KCP isn't going to completely break a player down off the dribble, but you can throw the ball to him on the wing, and without a screen, he can pull up and get a shot off without someone creating for him. In that sense, he can create his own shot.

[Clarity]

I get what you mean in that KCP isn't going to completely break a player down off the dribble, but you can throw the ball to him on the wing, and without a screen, he can pull up and get a shot off without someone creating for him. In that sense, he can create his own shot.

Yes he can

[Brapman]

Also, he has very good size for a SG. He doesn't need as much space to get his shot off. Beyond that, this kid's a great athlete, and I think that will translate to his being able to be a beat quicker to get to open spaces for his to shoot - and he has unlimited range.

[OneBadMutha]

KCP did a lot of iso pull up jumpers in college however I believe his upside in the NBA will be based on how well he learns to play off the ball. He has the skill-set and attributes to be very good as that type of player.

I'm far more excited about this prospect than him developing an all around offensive game. You can always find competent slashers. Hard to find really good off the ball players who are more than set shot guys.

I thought Rip became less effective and less efficient the more be attempted to expand his game. He became comfortable trying to create off the dribble which led to him standing around and calling for the ball more. His lack of off the ball movement in 2006 and 2007 really stagnated Detroit in the playoffs. I like those off the ball specialist that have just enough on ball ability to create a shot in a pinch but don't rely on it. Don't want him standing still calling for the ball in iso situations. He won't be efficient doing that with his ball handling in the NBA...regardless of what he did in college.

[need4detroit]

KCP did a lot of iso pull up jumpers in college however I believe his upside in the NBA will be based on how well he learns to play off the ball. He has the skill-set and attributes to be very good as that type of player.

I'm far more excited about this prospect than him developing an all around offensive game. You can always find competent slashers. Hard to find really good off the ball players who are more than set shot guys.

I thought Rip became less effective and less efficient the more be attempted to expand his game. He became comfortable trying to create off the dribble which led to him standing around and calling for the ball more. His lack of off the ball movement in 2006 and 2007 really stagnated Detroit in the playoffs. I like those off the ball specialist that have just enough on ball ability to create a shot in a pinch but don't rely on it. Don't want him standing still calling for the ball in iso situations. He won't be efficient doing that with his ball handling in the NBA...regardless of what he did in college.

That's a very interesting post.

[Clarity]

KCP did a lot of iso pull up jumpers in college however I believe his upside in the NBA will be based on how well he learns to play off the ball. He has the skill-set and attributes to be very good as that type of player.

I'm far more excited about this prospect than him developing an all around offensive game. You can always find competent slashers. Hard to find really good off the ball players who are more than set shot guys.

I thought Rip became less effective and less efficient the more be attempted to expand his game. He became comfortable trying to create off the dribble which led to him standing around and calling for the ball more. His lack of off the ball movement in 2006 and 2007 really stagnated Detroit in the playoffs. I like those off the ball specialist that have just enough on ball ability to create a shot in a pinch but don't rely on it. Don't want him standing still calling for the ball in iso situations. He won't be efficient doing that with his ball handling in the NBA...regardless of what he did in college.

very good post, very accurate.

The last 2 sentences were spot on.

[Brapman]

KCP developing his ball handling is something I think we'll see him breakthrough with over the next few seasons. When and if he does that, I think that could be the thing that turns him from very good pro, to being a major star. This kid is going to get a lot stronger. He's got outstanding guard coaches in Cheeks and Billups. He's got perhaps the league's best training staff to work with so his body and athletic ability will be maximized and perfected - especially if what we've heard about him being a very diligent worker and a great kid is true.

He already comes to us with outstanding size and athletic ability, and as a big time scorer and defender. But I see him developing into a monster player if things go as I expect them to go. Just picturing him with great handle and great strength to go with his superior agility and speed, and I foresee a very explosive pro developing before our eyes.

It also helps that he comes to us as a top young defender at his position, and a great rebounding guard. Those are attributes that will allow his coaches to play him a lot right away, even while all his other skills and abilities and knowledge and comfort in our system are developing.

[BadMofoPimp]

If Drummond, Monroe and Smith see plenty of court time together, Guards won't have to rebound at all while just leading the fast break or defending the fast break. That is a good option to have when you have good defensive guards to boot.