Something about Drummond. Question looking for an answer.

[Q00]

Sooooooo you really think big minutes for Dre was the difference between him keeping his job and not keeping his job?

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What exactly is the incentive for Frank to bring him along slowly if doing so directly led to his ousting? Knowing you would be fired, what the hell would it hurt to run Dre out there 35 minutes a game and run him into the ground? You add in the fact that sheep was begging for him to do it regardless of the fact Dre's body wasn't used to so many games and high minutes, that would've been the easiest thing for Frank to do. If not to get the sheep off his back alone.

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I have no idea why Frank did anything that he did, because almost all of it made no sense. The fact is he did it and it led to him losing his job. Are you arguing that we wouldn't have had a better record if Dre and Monroe had started together all season, instead of just the last 10 games? We would've been around a .500 team in my opinion, and that would've gotten us in the playoffs and saved Frank's job.

If I had to guess though, I think Frank thought going into the season that he was a good enough coach to do both (bring Drummond along slow, and get us in the playoffs by still being a .500 team in the meantime with Maxiell,). He grossly overvalued that .500 finish with Maxiell the year before, and I don't think he realized from the start how much he was going to need Drummond to succeed - because of how bad Maxiell really was. Combine that with his stubborness to make changes and admit when he's wrong until its too late (4-20, 0-8 starts) and he just mismanaged the whole situation, and I believe he would still be the coach if he had committed to Drummond over Maxiell from the start. I'm glad now that he didn't though, because we had no future with him in charge. So it worked out for the best. Drummond would probably be even further along now, but in the long run its not going to matter as far as his development.

[Cowology]

I'm not sure there is any good single player comparison. Physically he's to C's what LeBron is to PF's; you just don't see guys with that type of speed and athleticism at that size. He's a freak. Nobody at that size does the things that he is able to do. He's like Arnold in Twins; an amalgamation of the most gifted specimens on the planet. Like if young Shaq & Shawn Kemp had a love child who was then raised by Hakeem & KG.

Not to get too carried away, just talking physical tools here. He's obviously got a loooong way to go before he can rightly be compared to any of those guys. And offense is another story entirely.

But I've never seen a guy Drummonds size do to a player like Wade what he did. Let alone on consecutive plays. It was the sort of thing we'd see from Jordan or LeBron when they are locked in. But from a 280 lb 7 footer who's not even 20 yrs old? Yikes!

He is going to dominate defensively. I'm calling DPOY right now. This season. His biggest obstacle will be his conditioning and ability to stay on the court.

[MrBigShot]

Very interesting to hear that from someone who's usually pretty level headed like you Cowology. I'll kick it up a notch and predict that Dre will win the rebounding title. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just a massive homer to believe Dre could be one of the all time Detroit greats, but when I hear things like that it gives me validation that maybe I'm not crazy.

[Cowology]

In fairness I was high on Darko too. It's easy to get excited about potential, especially when there is so little else to get excited about.

[Sheeeeed]

I take it from the last page they're still a few people that don't understand that rookies rarely get pushed out of the gate their first year, especially ones that are 18/19 years old no matter the teams situation. I think there was only two rookies that averaged more than 30 minutes from the last rookie class. I'm sure theres going to be people pissing and moaning if KCP isn't starting either.

[zeebneeb]

In fairness I was high on Darko too. It's easy to get excited about potential, especially when there is so little else to get excited about.

I wont be able to recover from two Piston bigmen busts.

Drummond better deliver this year.

[Clarity]

Confidence is an entirely overused cliche.

wait... what?

[Clarity]

I wont be able to recover from two Piston bigmen busts.

Drummond better deliver this year.

*face palm*

[theBigLip]

Imagine if we didn't get to draft him. I'd be sooooo much less excited about the Team.