Pistons Unlikely To Sign Greg Monroe To Extension

[ComboGuardCity]

^Agreed.

I think people are being a little closed minded if they're unequivocally bashing a deal in which Anderson is the key piece of a Monroe deal, but Gordon's an albatross.

Anderson is the 4 version of Kyle Korver. He does one thing well which is shoot the 3. Hes a below average rebounder and inside scorer. Hes also not a good defender. Its not close minded to not want to give up Monroe to pay Anderson 4mill less

[hoophabit]

It's Gordon that's the poison pill in that deal. Anderson is a pretty good stretch 4, but Gordon reeks of wasted cap space, a smell with which Pistons fans have become pretty familiar. I mean, haven't we already done the Gordon wasted cap space thing?

[Brapman]

If Monroe proves that he can be a great combination with Drummond, then no way will he not be a Piston long term. If he's not a great fit with Dre' then Joe D has proven many times that he's willing to trade his own grandmother, if it's for the right deal/fit.

This year we should find out. If we trade Monroe it'll be for an outstanding talent - perhaps a stretch 4, a SG (although I hope KCP makes that totally unnecessary and unneeded), or a SF to move Smith over to PF (although I'm hoping that Datome becomes a starting quality SF for us).

[sc8581]

I actually really, really like Anderson as a fit for this team, but Eric Gordon is a guy I'd never touch in a deal like this.

I'm not saying I'd NEVER do a deal in which we lose Monroe but get Anderson. My decision there would have to depend on what the rest of the trade looks like. I just don't like this variation in which we lose an expiring and take a massive risk on a guy who hasn't had a remotely healthy season for the past 2 year and is making massive bank.

There's no scenario where I would endorse Detroit undertaking Eric Gordon's contract. He hasn't even remotely lived up to his pay level. I understand it's mostly due to health, not personal desire. But, the facts are facts, the kid can't stay on the court.

Anderson is a great fit. He's also a guy who's a great fit on pretty much every team in the league, as he's a textbook stretch 4, that hits at a great rate.

I look at it like this... Anderson might not be as good as Monroe but considering the fit he will almost certainly make the offense better. Gordon is definitely better than Monroe in my opinion and I would feel much more comfortable taking his 2 possibly 3 years of $14-15 million hoping he could stay healthy than give Monroe a 4 or 5 year MAX deal we will have to give him to keep him here. IF Gordon stayed healthy how good could the team be over the next couple years?

Drummond
Anderson
Smith
Gordon
Jennings

[wallacex2jc]

Why don't we trade for Ibaka and Lamb for Monroe and Stuckey? Ibaka has shown the ability to hit midrange shots while being one I the top defenders in the game. His value at the moment is dropping because of his contract and his performance in the playoffs in the absence of Westbrook.

For the Thunder, they would have a legitimate big man in the paint to score inside consistently to take pressure off for Durant. With a new change of scenery, Stuckey could turn into a productive player off the bench. Lamb is still somewhat of a project, the Thunder would prefer Stuckey over Lamb at this point. If it doesn't workout, Stuckey's contract would expire this season.

For the Pistons, we would instantly become the most intimidating front court in the NBA (also install our defensive identity back in the D). Because of the Ibaka's ability to hit midrange jumpers and Smith's ability to handle the ball, the space issue will not be a big deal.


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[sc8581]

No way does OKC do that imo

[Snakebites]

Ibaka is more valuable to the Thunder (and probably to nearly all teams) than Monroe. He's still very young and has huge value defensively while still being solid and efficient offensively.

[mercury]

Just the thought of that defensive front line brings wood

[StickAndMove]

Moose will be offered the max in free agency. The Stones better be prepared to pay him, or deal him during the season. Letting him walk and getting nothing in return for him is unacceptable.

[Pharaoh]

Letting him explore restricted free agency was always the right move.

1 - we can only give one player the maximum 5 year deal - and that player is Drummond

2 - it's unclear yet if Monroe is the right fit beside Drummond at PF, so you don't want to lock him in just yet

3 - restricted free agency favours the home team in every possible way

Assuming Monroe proves to be the right fit beside Drummond what Joe would be hoping for is that some team offers Monroe the maximum for 4 years... which is lower than the maximum we could have offered (and 1 year less as well)

This way we match the contract and still have the 5 year for real max for Drummond.

Assuming Monroe proves that he isn't the right fit beside Drummond then we can trade him at the deadline with Stuckey or CV for "fair value"... or do a sign and trade in free agency where Monroe gets a 4 year deal with higher raises than he would get if he signed an offer sheet

Makes too much sense to sign him to an extension before the season... and it's good to see Joe Dumars still keeping his options as open as they can be considering our roster

[Joe Berry]

Resigning Monroe at less than max would be great value anyway, that would be the only benefit to sign him now...but after the deals Cousins and Favors got, this wont happen, so its better for the Pistons to take the wait and see approach.

[ChipButty]

Not offering an extension is a mistake in my opinion. Even if Dre/Moose proves to be a bad fit, every GM in the league knows what a 23 year old center of Moose's caliber is worth and I think lots of GM's would prefer him on a 4 year deal than an expiring.

What if he picks up a serious injury towards the end of this season with 8-12 month rehab? Unlikely I know, but in that scenario he may not get an offer he likes in RFA and could decide to play half a season for the qualifying offer to become an UFA. Why take a risk with one of the best young bigs in the game?

[sc8581]

Not offering an extension is a mistake in my opinion. Even if Dre/Moose proves to be a bad fit, every GM in the league knows what a 23 year old center of Moose's caliber is worth and I think lots of GM's would prefer him on a 4 year deal than an expiring.

What if he picks up a serious injury towards the end of this season with 8-12 month rehab? Unlikely I know, but in that scenario he may not get an offer he likes in RFA and could decide to play half a season for the qualifying offer to become an UFA. Why take a risk with one of the best young bigs in the game?

Exactly, trade him now.

[joseph mamah]

it seems to me like Moose and his agent aren't in a big rush to sign an extension either, I think they've even said that they want to wait for RFA. who knows, maybe the Smith signing ruffled his feathers a little bit.

[sc8581]

it seems to me like Moose and his agent aren't in a big rush to sign an extension either, I think they've even said that they want to wait for RFA. who knows, maybe the Smith signing ruffled his feathers a little bit.

They know some dumb GM will offer him the MAX so he will get regardless, it's no big mystery.

[ComboGuardCity]

For what its worth, Falk's top 3 clients are Green, Hibbert, and Turner. None of which took an extension.

[sc8581]

For what its worth, Falk's top 3 clients are Green, Hibbert, and Turner. None of which took an extension.

I don't think Turner and Green were offered extensions by their teams.