The "good Josh" shows up

graymule · Post #1 » by **graymule** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:29 am

This is why Detroit spent that big $$$ for J Smoove! As a long time Hawks fan, I am
familiar with your Dr Jeckel / Mr. Hyde player. You have now witnessed both sides
of Josh.

Wasn't he great! Wasn't he really all world? Sure he was. Why can't he play like this
all the time? Hawk fans have been asking that question ever since they drafted him.

Part time all star / part time scrub. You live in hopes that every game he plays from
this date forward will be like last night's game. Perhaps, for Detroit, it will be. We
lived with that hope for years and years.

8-)

ImHeisenberg · Post #2 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 1:45 pm

Now, if "good" Smith can show up against the good teams, we might be alright.

hoophabit · Post #3 » by **hoophabit** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:35 pm

No doubt Josh can be a puzzle, but if our "clueless" and "stupid" coach will sit him down when bad Josh shows up (while not delivering any message) maybe we'll see more of the good Josh. The Pistons have him for three years and there's no reason to worry about any short term hurt feelings. This is one of the luxuries of having three quality bigs.

Kilo · Post #4 » by **Kilo** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:10 pm

He needs to realize when he's having an off night - so does Jennings and Cheeks for that matter. It's about finding the guy who's feeling it on any given night, in the flow, and going to them all night long. Some nights Monroe will go off, other nights Smoove, other nights it could be KCP eventually. Only the elite like James, Kobe, Paul and the like have rare off-games and you go to them always - we don't have a superstar, we're built with five lesser weapons and thus have to be smarter with them and gameplan the best match-up, hot hand game in and game out.

Post #5 » by **dVs33** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:16 pm

We've seen good smith before, just not for entire games.
It probably helped that moose was struggling too.

Lets see what they can do against an overachieving laker team.

ComboGuardCity · Post #6 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:49 pm

I don't remember Woodson/drew sitting josh for an entire half.

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sc8581 · Post #7 » by **sc8581** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:01 pm

Start him at PF and you will get more good than bad Josh.

Post #8 » by **Jamaaliver** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:37 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:I don't remember Woodson/drew sitting josh for an entire half.

It happened. Very rarely, but it happened.

sc8581 wrote:Start him at PF and you will get more good than bad Josh.

Not likely. He started at PF for 9 years here [in Atlanta] and still launched jumpers like he was Kyle Korver.

ImHeisenberg wrote:Now, if "good" Smith can show up against the good teams, we might be alright.

Hell, if just 'Not Terrible' Josh showed up everynight, that would be a move in the right direction.

Phenomenonsense · Post #9 » by **Phenomenonsense** » Sat Nov 16, 2013 7:38 pm

sc8581 wrote:Start him at PF and you will get more good than bad Josh.

Literally saying this to Atlanta fans that started him at PF and got the same player we're getting.

StickAndMove · Post #10 » by **StickAndMove** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:27 am

graymule wrote::wink:
You live in hopes that every game he plays from
this date forward will be like last night's game. Perhaps, for Detroit, it will be. We
lived with that hope for years and years.

Not me. I know exactly what he is. I have no expectation that, in his tenth season, we will see significant changes.

Josh Smith will never be more than this above-average, almost-borderline-but-not-really all-star. He is inefficient and inconsistent. His decision-making is questionable.

There are many things to love and hate about him. He wasn't worth the contract, but he's a lot more worth it than Ben Gordon or Charlie V were.

Since the Pistons signed him, my hopes for the future of the franchise are significantly diminished. The team should've been trying to get competitive about three years from now. Instead, we sacrifice the future for this enigma.

DetroitDon15 · Post #11 » by **DetroitDon15** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:49 am

sc8581 wrote:Start him at PF and you will get more good than bad Josh.

I agree with you on this but it won't happen.

sc8581 · Post #12 » by **sc8581** » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:14 am

Phenomenonsense wrote:
sc8581 wrote:Start him at PF and you will get more good than bad Josh.

Literally saying this to Atlanta fans that started him at PF and got the same player we're getting.

His PER is the lowest it's ever been and it hasn't been anywhere near this bad in 8 years, couple that with his obvious defensive struggles this year when he's clearly been an elite team defender over the course of his career and it's not hard to tell what's going on with him right now. Hell, just go on one of the many sites that show his performance at different positions and you will see how much better he has been at the 4 this year compared to the 3.