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BJ has Dumars blessing

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Re: BJ has Dumars blessing 

Post#21 » by Jackattaq » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:49 pm

joseph mamah wrote:I liked this team better when Jennings was out, his chucking ways are killing the team morale. why are you going to bust your ass on D, when you know Jennings or Smith are just going to waste the next possession by chucking up a garbage shot.


The sad part is Jennings "has the potential" to be a good PG. He just can't seem to take smart shots. He's been in chucker mode lately. 5-14 last night. UGH. Seriously.

Jennings CAN get to the rim, he can split defenses and find guys but he isn't IT'S UGLY right now.
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Post#22 » by Jackattaq » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:57 pm

Billl wrote:"Jennings has had some terrible shot selection and his shooting percentages back that up. "

Jennings certainly took a ton of bad shots over the years, but he really isn't taking a bunch as a piston. He's probably had more bad looking driving attempts than bad looking jumpers. He hasn't quite figured out how to deal with teams packing in the paint against our big frontline and is running into second and third defenders when he gets into the paint. He's either putting up contested runners or kicking to smith on the perimeter.

Again though, our starting "shooting" guard put up 0 points last night. Teams are going to sag on us from the start. If we are getting zero outside shooting from the starting 2 guard and then go to stuckey and get zero outside shooting, we are in for a bunch of ugly games. We'll just see 5 guys crowding the paint daring jennings and smith to shoot jumpers or drive into trees.


Please explain to me how 5-14 shooting can be quantified as anything other than a bad shooting percentage?
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Re: BJ has Dumars blessing 

Post#23 » by Billl » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:23 pm

"Please explain to me how 5-14 shooting can be quantified as anything other than a bad shooting percentage? - "

Because it's 1 game and silly to talk about shooting percentages from 1 game. You can take good shots and have them not fall. As long as he is taking good shots, that is all you can really ask.

He took a lot of BAD shots for the Bucks. So far, he hasn't done much of that for us. He's getting looks within the offense, not just jacking shots from everywhere.
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Re: BJ has Dumars blessing 

Post#24 » by DetroitPistons » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:25 pm

Jennings only started chucking in the GSW game. he was much better in previous games. I would like him to go back to playing that way.
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Post#25 » by gusman » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:32 pm

Jennings just has to survive not getting a beat down from JR Smith's street gang!!! Jennings seems like he runs his mouth quite a bit, but Smith reaction was so immature.

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Post#26 » by joseph mamah » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:36 pm

Billl wrote:"Please explain to me how 5-14 shooting can be quantified as anything other than a bad shooting percentage? - "

Because it's 1 game and silly to talk about shooting percentages from 1 game. You can take good shots and have them not fall. As long as he is taking good shots, that is all you can really ask.

He took a lot of BAD shots for the Bucks. So far, he hasn't done much of that for us. He's getting looks within the offense, not just jacking shots from everywhere.


30% USG with .477 TS% isn't going to cut it. small sample size, but so far his usage has gone up and his efficiency has gone down compared to last season.
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Post#27 » by princeofpalace » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:21 am

Brandon Jennings thus far is putting on 18 points on 38%FG and 31% from 3. He is leading our team in FGA with 17 a game. Im not impressed with his shot selection thus far. His ability to run the point is a marked improvement from Knight- but the kid is a chucker plain and simple
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Post#28 » by RTM » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:44 am

princeofpalace wrote:Brandon Jennings thus far is putting on 18 points on 38%FG and 31% from 3. He is leading our team in FGA with 17 a game. Im not impressed with his shot selection thus far. His ability to run the point is a marked improvement from Knight- but the kid is a chucker plain and simple


Pretty much. But this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. It's who he is.

I just wish he'd hit spot up 3s during the game as well as he hits leaning desperation 3s when we're already out of the game.
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Re: BJ has Dumars blessing 

Post#29 » by rmfc » Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:13 am

princeofpalace wrote:Brandon Jennings thus far is putting on 18 points on 38%FG and 31% from 3. He is leading our team in FGA with 17 a game. Im not impressed with his shot selection thus far. His ability to run the point is a marked improvement from Knight- but the kid is a chucker plain and simple


From what I have seen so far, I think Jennings is making a concerted effort to pass the basketball (and he can pass). However, the "kid" has always been and probably always will be a chucker.
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Post#30 » by Billl » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:22 pm

The people criticizing jennings seem to have some really high and unrealistic expectations. The guy is putting up 18/7/4 with a 2.84 assist to turnover ratio. If he was hitting the shooting efficiency numbers that some are throwing out there, he would be a top 3 pg performer. He's not that guy. If you set the bar at "Top 3 pg", then of course he's going to come up short.
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Re: BJ has Dumars blessing 

Post#31 » by Minas » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:56 pm

Billl wrote:The people criticizing jennings seem to have some really high and unrealistic expectations. The guy is putting up 18/7/4 with a 2.84 assist to turnover ratio. If he was hitting the shooting efficiency numbers that some are throwing out there, he would be a top 3 pg performer. He's not that guy. If you set the bar at "Top 3 pg", then of course he's going to come up short.


Nobody expects him to be a Top 3 PG. We want him to stop taking bad shots. That's not hard.
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Post#32 » by Bucksmaniac » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:11 pm

Billl wrote:The people criticizing jennings seem to have some really high and unrealistic expectations. The guy is putting up 18/7/4 with a 2.84 assist to turnover ratio. If he was hitting the shooting efficiency numbers that some are throwing out there, he would be a top 3 pg performer. He's not that guy. If you set the bar at "Top 3 pg", then of course he's going to come up short.


You know there is also defense to be factored in. The three most important metrics for a PG are their offense, running the team's offense, and defense. So far, he has shown one out of those three (running the team's offense). The rest is average or worse (his ability to be a microwave is nice, but efficiency (lack thereof) makes that point moot.
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Re: BJ has Dumars blessing 

Post#33 » by Billl » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:25 am

"We want him to stop taking bad shots. That's not hard. "

That isn't true. He's not taking a bunch of bad shots but people are still all over him. He's doing dramatically less chucking than he has in prior years. His shot isn't falling right now, but it isn't because he's taking a bunch of heat check 3's. With very few exceptions, his shots are coming within the offense.
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Post#34 » by Bucksmaniac » Wed Nov 20, 2013 3:38 pm

Billl wrote:"We want him to stop taking bad shots. That's not hard. "

That isn't true. He's not taking a bunch of bad shots but people are still all over him. He's doing dramatically less chucking than he has in prior years. His shot isn't falling right now, but it isn't because he's taking a bunch of heat check 3's. With very few exceptions, his shots are coming within the offense.


The fact that his shooting numbers are bad even when taking good shots says he's just not a very good shooter. He had a good outing last night though it looks like. Hopefully for your team's sake he keeps it up.

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