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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#61 » by sc8581 » Mon Dec 2, 2013 7:59 pm

Balrog wrote:
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TOP PF's shooting 40-49% - LMA, Kevin Love, Dirk Nowitzki, David West, Chris Bosh, David Lee, Zach Randolph, Tim Duncan, Anthony Davis <----- they must be ALL HORRIBLE.

TOP PF's shooting 50%+ - Blake Griffin, Serge Ibaka, Paul Millsap and Ryan Anderson.

If you had to pick 3 players named to carry your team in crunchtime, who will you give the ball to?

Lesson 101: Theres a big difference between a first option and a 3rd option on offense. If you cant figure out why the best player on a team takes the most shots, then something isn't right with you.

:lol:


Bosh is actually shooting 53%, Duncan is old and West is getting there, the rest of the guys are at 49+%. Aldridge shouldn't be a #1 option that's kind of my point, and I'm not sure he is the best player on his team so...


Well my bad, but Bosh isn't exactly the number 1 option either right?

So you are implying that Aldridge shooting at 45% is horrible, while 49% is acceptable?

mmk :roll:

And I'm really curious who you think Portland's number #1 option should be.


They have 4 guys that should all be taking around 14-17 shots per game.
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#62 » by Balrog » Mon Dec 2, 2013 8:02 pm

sc8581 wrote:
Balrog wrote:
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Bosh is actually shooting 53%, Duncan is old and West is getting there, the rest of the guys are at 49+%. Aldridge shouldn't be a #1 option that's kind of my point, and I'm not sure he is the best player on his team so...


Well my bad, but Bosh isn't exactly the number 1 option either right?

So you are implying that Aldridge shooting at 45% is horrible, while 49% is acceptable?

mmk :roll:

And I'm really curious who you think Portland's number #1 option should be.


They have 4 guys that should all be taking around 14-17 shots per game.


If those 4 guys can play 48 minutes a game, then that shouldn't be a problem.

Man, you are ridiculous.

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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#63 » by sc8581 » Mon Dec 2, 2013 8:04 pm

Balrog wrote:
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Well my bad, but Bosh isn't exactly the number 1 option either right?

So you are implying that Aldridge shooting at 45% is horrible, while 49% is acceptable?

mmk :roll:

And I'm really curious who you think Portland's number #1 option should be.


They have 4 guys that should all be taking around 14-17 shots per game.


If those 4 guys can play 48 minutes a game, then that shouldn't be a problem.

Man, you are ridiculous.

:lol:


That makes no sense, I'm done with you, have a nice day.
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#64 » by rock digger » Mon Dec 2, 2013 8:11 pm

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He's not a bum or anything, I just think he should play within the offense more for efficiency reasons. Lillard has a low FG% but still scores efficiently because he can hit the 3 and get to the line. Matthews and Batum take shots within the offense and are averaging 16.7 and 14.1ppg respectively on less than 11 shots each and more than half of their shots are 3's. Aldridge takes 4 more shots per game than Lillard and only averages 2 more points, he also takes nearly twice as many shots per game as Matthews and Batum with nowhere near the efficiency, and he's a big man for crying out loud. I understand he takes a good amount of jumpers, I like and respect that about his game, but the guy takes more shots than anybody in the league besides Carmello and they are both right there with Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings as 2 of the most inefficient scorers in the game.


This guy :lol:


45.2 afg% which is 28th out of 31 PFs and 1.10 pps is 30th of 31 qualified PFs, nuff said.


This logic is so poor it is unbelievable. If we were going by your logic, then BORIS DIAW would be the most efficient PF in the game and therefore it is a crime that he doesn't get more shots. We all know that isn't true, and you're just cherrypicking numbers arbitrarily to suit your case.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... r-forwards

Look at that list.

1. Boris Diaw
2. Channing Frye
13. KHRIS MIDDLETON

This all doesn't even factor into account that most of these players aren't even forced into taking shots because they aren't a big factor in the offense, which leads to them getting prime shots, a la Steve Novak. Your golden boy David Lee isn't even looking all that good according to the list either, being 24th and all. This list also ranks people like Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Zach Randolph, David West, Tim Duncan, and Thaddeus Young all as worse PF offensive options than the fearsome threats of MARKIEFF MORRIS and the deadly JOHN HENSON. Also this list shows that Dwight Howard is a PF which makes it somewhat lol worthy to be honest.

"Aldridge takes 4 more shots per game than Lillard and only averages 2 more points"

Way to mention the fact that Lillard is shooting less than 40% on the season and the only reason he averages 2 less points per game than Aldridge is because he is a point guard and point guards tend to take more 3s than PFs, especially a PF like Aldridge.

"he also takes nearly twice as many shots per game as Matthews and Batum with nowhere near the efficiency"

This is also ridiculous. For one, if you think that Wesley Matthews can maintain a FG % of 55% throughout the entire season then you're delusional, and Batum also shoots 45%. If I am reading this correctly, you are suggesting that Matthews and Batum should play a larger role in the offense than Aldridge. By your logic, DeAndre Jordan should be the one getting a huge role in the Clippers offense rather than the comparatively inefficient Chris Paul. Now does that sound right to you?

I'm also still laughing at the fact that you said Aldridge was nearly as inefficient as Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings.
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#65 » by Balrog » Mon Dec 2, 2013 8:15 pm

sc8581 wrote:
Balrog wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
They have 4 guys that should all be taking around 14-17 shots per game.


If those 4 guys can play 48 minutes a game, then that shouldn't be a problem.

Man, you are ridiculous.

:lol:


That makes no sense, I'm done with you, have a nice day.


An average basketball game consists between 70 - 90 FG Attempts. 15 x 4 is already 60..

I cant take this anymore, this is embarrasing :oops:
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#66 » by Balrog » Mon Dec 2, 2013 8:18 pm

rock digger wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
rock digger wrote:
This guy :lol:


45.2 afg% which is 28th out of 31 PFs and 1.10 pps is 30th of 31 qualified PFs, nuff said.


This logic is so poor it is unbelievable. If we were going by your logic, then BORIS DIAW would be the most efficient PF in the game and therefore it is a crime that he doesn't get more shots. We all know that isn't true, and you're just cherrypicking numbers arbitrarily to suit your case.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... r-forwards

Look at that list.

1. Boris Diaw
2. Channing Frye
13. KHRIS MIDDLETON

This all doesn't even factor into account that most of these players aren't even forced into taking shots because they aren't a big factor in the offense, which leads to them getting prime shots, a la Steve Novak. Your golden boy David Lee isn't even looking all that good according to the list either, being 24th and all. This list also ranks people like Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Zach Randolph, David West, Tim Duncan, and Thaddeus Young all as worse PF offensive options than the fearsome threats of MARKIEFF MORRIS and the deadly JOHN HENSON. Also this list shows that Dwight Howard is a PF which makes it somewhat lol worthy to be honest.

"Aldridge takes 4 more shots per game than Lillard and only averages 2 more points"

Way to mention the fact that Lillard is shooting less than 40% on the season and the only reason he averages 2 less points per game than Aldridge is because he is a point guard and point guards tend to take more 3s than PFs, especially a PF like Aldridge.

"he also takes nearly twice as many shots per game as Matthews and Batum with nowhere near the efficiency"

This is also ridiculous. For one, if you think that Wesley Matthews can maintain a FG % of 55% throughout the entire season then you're delusional, and Batum also shoots 45%. If I am reading this correctly, you are suggesting that Matthews and Batum should play a larger role in the offense than Aldridge. By your logic, DeAndre Jordan should be the one getting a huge role in the Clippers offense rather than the comparatively inefficient Chris Paul. Now does that sound right to you?

I'm also still laughing at the fact that you said Aldridge was nearly as inefficient as Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings.


And1 man. I doub't this guy is able to comprehend how real life basketball works. All I know is 1 thing, and its that he definitely has his own basketball philosophy.

:lol:
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#67 » by sc8581 » Tue Dec 3, 2013 10:00 am

rock digger wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
rock digger wrote:
This guy :lol:


45.2 afg% which is 28th out of 31 PFs and 1.10 pps is 30th of 31 qualified PFs, nuff said.


This logic is so poor it is unbelievable. If we were going by your logic, then BORIS DIAW would be the most efficient PF in the game and therefore it is a crime that he doesn't get more shots. We all know that isn't true, and you're just cherrypicking numbers arbitrarily to suit your case.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/playe ... r-forwards

Look at that list.

1. Boris Diaw
2. Channing Frye
13. KHRIS MIDDLETON

This all doesn't even factor into account that most of these players aren't even forced into taking shots because they aren't a big factor in the offense, which leads to them getting prime shots, a la Steve Novak. Your golden boy David Lee isn't even looking all that good according to the list either, being 24th and all. This list also ranks people like Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Zach Randolph, David West, Tim Duncan, and Thaddeus Young all as worse PF offensive options than the fearsome threats of MARKIEFF MORRIS and the deadly JOHN HENSON. Also this list shows that Dwight Howard is a PF which makes it somewhat lol worthy to be honest.

"Aldridge takes 4 more shots per game than Lillard and only averages 2 more points"

Way to mention the fact that Lillard is shooting less than 40% on the season and the only reason he averages 2 less points per game than Aldridge is because he is a point guard and point guards tend to take more 3s than PFs, especially a PF like Aldridge.

"he also takes nearly twice as many shots per game as Matthews and Batum with nowhere near the efficiency"

This is also ridiculous. For one, if you think that Wesley Matthews can maintain a FG % of 55% throughout the entire season then you're delusional, and Batum also shoots 45%. If I am reading this correctly, you are suggesting that Matthews and Batum should play a larger role in the offense than Aldridge. By your logic, DeAndre Jordan should be the one getting a huge role in the Clippers offense rather than the comparatively inefficient Chris Paul. Now does that sound right to you?

I'm also still laughing at the fact that you said Aldridge was nearly as inefficient as Josh Smith and Brandon Jennings.


Did I mention anything about players that don't take many shots? Don't put words in my mouth and then try to make a joke about them, that's just ignorant.
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#68 » by tmorgan » Tue Dec 3, 2013 10:45 am

This thread sucks now. Nice work, fellas.
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#69 » by ARoS » Tue Dec 3, 2013 12:35 pm

tmorgan wrote:This thread sucks now. Nice work, fellas.


what do you mean "now"?
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#70 » by tmorgan » Thu Dec 5, 2013 5:39 am

LMA is a stud. He's had a slow start and a lower-than-his-usual efficiency, but he's definitely the best player on the Blazers.

sc[numbers], LMA heard you talking bad about him and dropped 38/13/5 with zero turns tonight. On 28 shots.
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#71 » by Clarity » Thu Dec 5, 2013 5:32 pm

tmorgan wrote:This thread sucks now. Nice work, fellas.


alex0000 wrote:what do you mean "now"?
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#72 » by Clarity » Thu Dec 5, 2013 5:32 pm

Re- Aldridge

See My Sig lol
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Re: Monroe for Barnes 

Post#73 » by tfdp22 » Sun Dec 8, 2013 4:03 am

Maybe, maybe golden state would do this, but I don't see why at all Portland would be interested in pulling off this trade. First of all, why would they want Jeremy Lin, as they've already got Lillard and Mo Williams. Second of all, why exactly would they want Monroe over Aldridge? Aldridge is far better and they've been quite successful so far with him.

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