New Orleans- Houston- Detroit

emiliojum · Post #1 » by **emiliojum** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:35 am

It makes sense for these three teams.

Detroit out: Josh Smith
Detroit in: Eric Gordon

Houston out: Omer Asik, Donatas Montejunas
Houston in: Josh Smith

NO out: Eric Gordon
NO in: Omer Asik, Donatas Montejunas

Detroit gets out from the terrible fit of Josh Smith, gets a perimeter scorer in Gordon, arguably would be the teams best scorer. One year left in the contract from Smith.

Houston gets Dwight's buddy, Josh Smith, who Morey went after in a sign and trade with Atlanta that fell through. He's a defensive and offensive upgrade over their current lot of power forwards as well.

NO moves Gordon to get more playing time for Tyreke Evans, gets a legit defensive center to play next to Anthony Davis as well. Montejunas is only a cap filler who wants to be traded. No gets more cap space as well.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

whitehops · Post #2 » by **whitehops** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 1:54 pm

of all the hypothetical trades people post this is actually one of the more reasonable ones I've seen.

the only thing is new Orleans frontcourt is already pretty good with Anderson and davis, they might not want to take on asik as well (and i'm sure asik wouldn't want to come off the bench)

ImHeisenberg · Post #3 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 2:41 pm

Nice trade, it's almost exactly the one I posted yesterday (except I used the dedicated thread). But, Detroit got rid of Will Bynum, brought in Canaan, and Dontas wasn't moved at all.

Also, you literally plagiarized all of my reasoning, word for word. Please refrain from doing that.

DetroitDon15 · Post #4 » by **DetroitDon15** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 3:42 pm

emiliojum wrote:It makes sense for these three teams.

Detroit out: Josh Smith
Detroit in: Eric Gordon

Houston out: Omer Asik, Donatas Montejunas
Houston in: Josh Smith

NO out: Eric Gordon
NO in: Omer Asik, Donatas Montejunas

Detroit gets out from the terrible fit of Josh Smith, gets a perimeter scorer in Gordon, arguably would be the teams best scorer. One year left in the contract from Smith.

Houston gets Dwight's buddy, Josh Smith, who Morey went after in a sign and trade with Atlanta that fell through. He's a defensive and offensive upgrade over their current lot of power forwards as well.

NO moves Gordon to get more playing time for Tyreke Evans, gets a legit defensive center to play next to Anthony Davis as well. Montejunas is only a cap filler who wants to be traded. No gets more cap space as well.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

At this point, I say yes. This lineup isn't working. EG would be a upgrade at SG and I'm done with Smith at the 3.

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ComboGuardCity · Post #5 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:45 pm

At that point, I cut out the hornets and trade for Asik. He's an easy asset to flip.

Brt19 · Post #6 » by **Brt19** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 4:55 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:At that point, I cut out the hornets and trade for Asik. He's an easy asset to flip.

No, not really when everyone know you don't need him and he's unhappy. Ask Morey. We don't need him either.

kurtis48239 · Post #7 » by **kurtis48239** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:25 pm

Now that andersons out and they have lost a scorer,I doubt they trade gordon.

ImHeisenberg · Post #8 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 5:43 pm

kurtis48239 wrote:Now that andersons out and they have lost a scorer,I doubt they trade gordon.

Check the headlines, bro. They are shopping him.

I'm also mildly disappointed that there isn't some community justice for this guy blatantly ripping off my trade idea, even stealing my reasoning word for word. Dick move, man. Dick move.

kurtis48239 · Post #9 » by **kurtis48239** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:32 pm

ImHeisenberg wrote:
kurtis48239 wrote:Now that andersons out and they have lost a scorer,I doubt they trade gordon.

Check the headlines, bro. They are shopping him.

I'm also mildly disappointed that there isn't some community justice for this guy blatantly ripping off my trade idea, even stealing my reasoning word for word. Dick move, man. Dick move.

Well I stand corrected,I guess there looking to tank,but iam still not sure about taking on gordon,seems like a matter of time befor he gets hurt again.It is a dick move but funny that he would rip it and repost it here,did he not know a piston fan wrote it ?

sc8581 · Post #10 » by **sc8581** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 6:57 pm

kurtis48239 wrote:
ImHeisenberg wrote:
kurtis48239 wrote:Now that andersons out and they have lost a scorer,I doubt they trade gordon.

Check the headlines, bro. They are shopping him.

I'm also mildly disappointed that there isn't some community justice for this guy blatantly ripping off my trade idea, even stealing my reasoning word for word. Dick move, man. Dick move.

Well I stand corrected,I guess there looking to tank,but iam still not sure about taking on gordon,seems like a matter of time befor he gets hurt again.It is a dick move but funny that he would rip it and repost it here,did he not know a piston fan wrote it ?

I don't think the Pelicans are tanking, I believe Philly owns their pick for the Holiday trade.

Post #11 » by **dVs33** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 7:07 pm

If we could trade Smith for gordon, i'd do it in a heart beat.
There's enough minutes for KCP at backup SG and SF.
I'd love that line up.

ComboGuardCity · Post #12 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 9:50 pm

Brt19 wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:At that point, I cut out the hornets and trade for Asik. He's an easy asset to flip.

No, not really when everyone know you don't need him and he's unhappy. Ask Morey. We don't need him either.

Why even inlcude the pelicans Find somebody else without a bad contract

Q00 · Post #13 » by **Q00** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:05 pm

I wouldn't trade Smith for Gordon at all. Then we still have the problem of a Center at PF who doesn't fit, and no SF, and no money left to replace both.

I don't think I would even trade Monroe for him, because without Monroe we aren't so huge on the frontline anymore to where we can get away with being undersized in the backcourt as well. And then there's also the issue of having no money left for a SF. I just don't think Gordon is worth 15 million either. Isn't he basically Ben Gordon 2.0?

He doesn't really bring anything to the table besides scoring/shooting and he's undersized so he's another liability on defense. Jennings/Gordon would be very poor defensively.

If they could somehow get him just for our expirings and keep all of our bigs, that would be something to explore.

Maybe if Houston is just looking to get out of Asik's contract to have capspace for this summer, they would be willing to trade him for Stuckey/Villanueva, and then send him to NOH, with Gordon coming here. That sounds like something that might work for all teams. Houston could use Stuckey as a scorer off the bench, while also getting a stretch 4 to compliment Dwight (both just half-season rentals for the playoffs). NOH gets their Center, and the Pistons get another shooter without having to give up anything but their expirings.

I think it would come down to whether Joe viewed Gordon as someone he wanted to spend all his capspace on, or if he felt he could get someone better by keeping the expirings and waiting until FA. 15 million is a lot of an Eric Gordon type player. Its only two more years after this year though, so it wouldn't really hinder us longterm. Gordon/Jennings would both expire the same year, and if it didn't work out, we'd have 23 mil in expirings the year after next. If we could get him for our expirings I'd consider it.

Q00 · Post #14 » by **Q00** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:18 pm

This trade works in the trade machine.

DET: Gordon

HOU: Stuckey

NOH: Asik/CV

mercury · Post #15 » by **mercury** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:22 pm

This deal does not address our major needs... lack of defense from our PG & PF.
Actually makes us worse defensively.

Q00 · Post #16 » by **Q00** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:26 pm

mercury wrote:This deal does not address our major needs... lack of defense from our PG & PF.

This. If we moved Smith inside though, we might be able to get away with Jennings/Gordon defensively with two elite shotblockers protecting the paint. Though it would put a lot of pressure on them. If we can get him for expirings I might take a chance on the experiment for a few years, but I wouldn't give up any major assets for him.

ImHeisenberg · Post #17 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Sat Jan 11, 2014 10:47 pm

kurtis48239 wrote:
ImHeisenberg wrote:
kurtis48239 wrote:Now that andersons out and they have lost a scorer,I doubt they trade gordon.

Check the headlines, bro. They are shopping him.

I'm also mildly disappointed that there isn't some community justice for this guy blatantly ripping off my trade idea, even stealing my reasoning word for word. Dick move, man. Dick move.

Well I stand corrected,I guess there looking to tank,but iam still not sure about taking on gordon,seems like a matter of time befor he gets hurt again.It is a dick move but funny that he would rip it and repost it here,did he not know a piston fan wrote it ?

I don't believe they're tanking, or intentionally looking to tank. I think they either want to get better immediately, or cap space for the summer. Asik would be a massive upgrade at center for them. If they just wanted cap relief, Stuckey and CV could certainly fill that bill as well.