Will gores hire a new coach and gm before the draft

[Invictus88]

Izzo has already said that he has no interest in the NBA. He is after coach Ks alltime wins record. Izzos sytem wouldnt work in the NBA anyway. NBA teams just dont practice enough to learn 100 sets.


I cant recall the last time a team went into the draft w/o a GM heck most dont go into the draft w/o a coach.

Yea, Izzo is a really good college coach but this whole "hire Izzo" thing is very similar to the "draft Trey Burke" movement last Summer.

Michigan/Mich State has passionate sports fans though, I applaud that.

I honestly think that Izzo would at least try to instill solid fundamentals into this team and maybe some discipline which is something we are sorely lacking. So I don't think it's as much of a stretch as Trey Burke in that respect.

I don't know if he would be able to meet the bar strategy-wise and/or be able to interact with professionals the same way he does with college kids. Then again he does at least have experience as a member of the staff for the Olympic teams right?

It's still a pipe dream anyway. He's not going anywhere.

[bballnmike]

Izzo has already said that he has no interest in the NBA. He is after coach Ks alltime wins record. Izzos sytem wouldnt work in the NBA anyway. NBA teams just dont practice enough to learn 100 sets.


I cant recall the last time a team went into the draft w/o a GM heck most dont go into the draft w/o a coach.

Yea, Izzo is a really good college coach but this whole "hire Izzo" thing is very similar to the "draft Trey Burke" movement last Summer.

Michigan/Mich State has passionate sports fans though, I applaud that.

True, tho I think one difference from fans wanting Burke is, since Gores is a MSU alum some people think there could be more of a connection with Izzo. Not that I think we'll get him, just sayin

[theBigLip]

Izzo has already said that he has no interest in the NBA. He is after coach Ks alltime wins record. Izzos sytem wouldnt work in the NBA anyway. NBA teams just dont practice enough to learn 100 sets.


I cant recall the last time a team went into the draft w/o a GM heck most dont go into the draft w/o a coach.

Yea, Izzo is a really good college coach but this whole "hire Izzo" thing is very similar to the "draft Trey Burke" movement last Summer.

Michigan/Mich State has passionate sports fans though, I applaud that.

I think there is a difference. It isn't about being a homer, it is about evaluating talent (coaching or playing) and seeing if it fits in the NBA. Burke is a better fit and beside this board being filled with State fans, I can't understand why everyone was so down on Burke and Hardaway last year at draft time. They both obviously deserved to be drafted in the first round and apparently both should have gone higher than they did.

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Izzo has already said that he has no interest in the NBA. He is after coach Ks alltime wins record. Izzos sytem wouldnt work in the NBA anyway. NBA teams just dont practice enough to learn 100 sets.


I cant recall the last time a team went into the draft w/o a GM heck most dont go into the draft w/o a coach.

Yea, Izzo is a really good college coach but this whole "hire Izzo" thing is very similar to the "draft Trey Burke" movement last Summer.

Michigan/Mich State has passionate sports fans though, I applaud that.

I'm not a UM or MSU fan, and I'm not even campaigning to hire him, I'm just speculating that I think its something Gores could do.

I do like him a lot as a coach though, and I do think he could be one of the rare few who do succeed in the NBA. I think he has all the qualities of a successful NBA coach because he runs his teams much like an NBA playoff team already. Halfcourt teams who are always strong in defense, rebounding, sharing the ball on offense, utilzing the post, mental toughness, making all the hustle plays, high IQ, etc All hallmarks of a Tom Izzo team and all the same ingrediants that win championships in the NBA too.

Also why I think guys like Izzo can succeed in the NBA is because they know how to win without stars. They've proven in college that they can take lesser talent and overachieve. Whereas most other top coach's in college rely on recruiting the best players, and then when they get to the NBA and don't have all the talent they fail. To me Izzo is more of a system guy like a Larry Brown or Popovich who can win with less by getting guys to buy in and playing fundamentally sound, executing, and giving max effort.

Whether he can get millonaires to buy is obviouslty the million dollar question, but I see a lot of similarities between him and Larry Brown in terms of coaching style, and Brown obviously did alright in the nba

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Izzo asked about coaching the Pistons on Jim Rome yesterday. Doesn't say yes, but doesn't say no either

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHP4SxHZCtA[/youtube]

[imagump1313]

I would rather bring back Larry Brown than mess with Izzo and I don't like Brown very much.

Izzo + NBA spells disaster IMO.

Izzo is falling apart now with his college team. Calling them soft and whimpy after the OSU game. They are college kids. It is his responsibility to get them to play well, but he seems to always puts all the blame on them when things go bad.

Also, I respect Izzo and what he has done at MSU a ton, but I was never a big fan of his coaching. MSU notoriously is careless with the basketball and is always near the top of the Big 10 in turnovers. Been that way for years. I find it frustrating to watch them.

The more I think about it with this roster, Brown might not be such a bad idea. He is exactly the kind of coach this type of team needs.

[Q00]

I would rather bring back Larry Brown than mess with Izzo and I don't like Brown very much.

Izzo + NBA spells disaster IMO.

Izzo is falling apart now with his college team. Calling them soft and whimpy after the OSU game. They are college kids. It is his responsibility to get them to play well, but he seems to always puts all the blame on them when things go bad.

That's exactly why I think he would be a good hire for this team, because that's exactly what this team needs - someone to call them soft and whimpy after they put forth a soft and whimpy performance. Which happens much too often, with no accountability or consequence.

For what its worth I would rather have LB too, but he's doing great at SMU and don't see him leaving any time soon, plus he's 73.

As for Izzo's team having problems lately, that's very uncharacteristic of his teams at this time of the year and is more the exception than rule. Which makes me think his mind might be elsewhere, like he's already decided he's going to the NBA, and that's whats affecting his coaching right now.

[jakebernat]

I would rather bring back Larry Brown than mess with Izzo and I don't like Brown very much.

Izzo + NBA spells disaster IMO.

Izzo is falling apart now with his college team. Calling them soft and whimpy after the OSU game. They are college kids. It is his responsibility to get them to play well, but he seems to always puts all the blame on them when things go bad.

That's exactly why I think he would be a good hire for this team, because that's exactly what this team needs - someone to call them soft and whimpy after they put forth a soft and whimpy performance. Which happens much too often, with no accountability or consequence.

For what its worth I would rather have LB too, but he's doing great at SMU and don't see him leaving any time soon, plus he's 73.

As for Izzo's team having problems lately, that's very uncharacteristic of his teams at this time of the year and is more the exception than rule. Which makes me think his mind might be elsewhere, like he's already decided he's going to the NBA, and that's whats affecting his coaching right now.

Agreed, this team desperately needs a disciplinarian. I don't know if izzo is that guy, but we need someone to hold our players accountable.

[Clarity]

I'm not a UM or MSU fan, and I'm not even campaigning to hire him, I'm just speculating that I think its something Gores could do.

I do like him a lot as a coach though, and I do think he could be one of the rare few who do succeed in the NBA. I think he has all the qualities of a successful NBA coach because he runs his teams much like an NBA playoff team already. Halfcourt teams who are always strong in defense, rebounding, sharing the ball on offense, utilzing the post, mental toughness, making all the hustle plays, high IQ, etc All hallmarks of a Tom Izzo team and all the same ingrediants that win championships in the NBA too.

Also why I think guys like Izzo can succeed in the NBA is because they know how to win without stars. They've proven in college that they can take lesser talent and overachieve. Whereas most other top coach's in college rely on recruiting the best players, and then when they get to the NBA and don't have all the talent they fail. To me Izzo is more of a system guy like a Larry Brown or Popovich who can win with less by getting guys to buy in and playing fundamentally sound, executing, and giving max effort.

Whether he can get millonaires to buy is obviouslty the million dollar question, but I see a lot of similarities between him and Larry Brown in terms of coaching style, and Brown obviously did alright in the nba

Oh I wouldnt be surprised if Gores tried to throw a ton of money at him. I dont think Gores is a Mark Cuban type owner. He comes across as a casual fan who really doesnt have much of an idea whats going on.

My worry with Izzo isn't really the X & O's, youre absolutely right about him having a shot at being one of the few, hes a very smart coach. Its the vet respect thing as you mentioned. I think certain vet's we have wont value his word much because he hasnt won anything as a pro. If this team was Monroe/Drummond as it should have been I would be very open to the Izzo idea but it's not so it doesnt make a ton of sense to me.

I think there is a difference. It isn't about being a homer, it is about evaluating talent (coaching or playing) and seeing if it fits in the NBA. Burke is a better fit and beside this board being filled with State fans, I can't understand why everyone was so down on Burke and Hardaway last year at draft time. They both obviously deserved to be drafted in the first round and apparently both should have gone higher than they did.

Burke was not a need, we had Knight who was a baby, we only traded Knight because we thought Jennings was an upgrade who still fit the young core.. That whole Burke thing is UM fandom. Even in retrospect people talk about him like we missed Lillard or something haha. The kids shooting 37%, we didnt miss anything.

I honestly think that Izzo would at least try to instill solid fundamentals into this team and maybe some discipline which is something we are sorely lacking. So I don't think it's as much of a stretch as Trey Burke in that respect.

I don't know if he would be able to meet the bar strategy-wise and/or be able to interact with professionals the same way he does with college kids. Then again he does at least have experience as a member of the staff for the Olympic teams right?

It's still a pipe dream anyway. He's not going anywhere.

If the players all bought in, I think he could make a huge impact.

As Q & a few others said as well as myself, we cant buy that happening.

True, tho I think one difference from fans wanting Burke is, since Gores is a MSU alum some people think there could be more of a connection with Izzo. Not that I think we'll get him, just sayin

Completely fair point.