Rockets key to our offseason? (wiretap scenario)

[Pharaoh]

If he takes the qualifying offer he will be worth next to nothing in a trade because he wouldn't be restricted next summer.

Wouldn't the team he gets traded to hold his bird rights? They could offer Monroe more money then anyone else.

I'm not sure if they could offer him more than everybody else or not but just the fact that he wouldn't be restricted would scare most teams off.

The team that holds his Bird Rights gets to pay more than any other for his services BUT he could still walk if he chooses.

With a RFA they can't walk for nothing...they have to sacrifice a lot to do that, which is why they usually re-sign then force a trade some time down the road

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[sc8581]

Wouldn't the team he gets traded to hold his bird rights? They could offer Monroe more money then anyone else.

I'm not sure if they could offer him more than everybody else or not but just the fact that he wouldn't be restricted would scare most teams off.

The team that holds his Bird Rights gets to pay more than any other for his services BUT he could still walk if he chooses.

With a RFA they can't walk for nothing...they have to sacrifice a lot to do that, which is why they usually re-sign then force a trade some time down the road

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I'm a little tired, can you please tell me a few players that have done this?

[Pharaoh]

It's midnight in Oz and I'm tired too...so the easy answer is:

Name a quality big man that didn't sign an offer sheet or sign an extension as a RFA and instead took the qualifying offer and entered unrestricted free agency.

It doesn't happen. I can't remember the last decent player that didn't get some kind of extension as a RFA.

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[sfballa13]

It's rumored that Melo will choose Rockets or Bulls if he doesnt resign with the Knicks

What if we offered pure cap space + pick for Lin, Asik, Parsons?

Probably not as good of a deal as Houston can get but a top ten pick for Parsons and clearing out Lin/Asik in order to sign Melo is still a fair deal.

We cant do better than Parsons with our 8th pick and in the process we get our starting PG in Lin and a huge expiring contract in Asik that we can use in a trade next season

We then match whatever offer sheet Monroe signs and go into next season with a super deep lineup and real hopes to make some noise in the playoffs.

Lin is not the best PG in the world but he still is a smart player that can maybe change the culture of our team a bit. And you know he would find Drummond alot more than Jennings would. Jennings - Singler - Monroe - Asik is a sick bench lineup.

Lin / Jennings
KCP / Singler
Parsons / Datome
Smith / Monroe
Drummond / Asik

[mercury]

My guess is Jackson had some input in acquiring Jennings or Smith... "My ideas didn't work very well"... he's familiar with our problems.

[DBC10]

It's rumored that Melo will choose Rockets or Bulls if he doesnt resign with the Knicks

What if we offered pure cap space + pick for Lin, Asik, Parsons?

Probably not as good of a deal as Houston can get but a top ten pick for Parsons and clearing out Lin/Asik in order to sign Melo is still a fair deal.

We cant do better than Parsons with our 8th pick and in the process we get our starting PG in Lin and a huge expiring contract in Asik that we can use in a trade next season

We then match whatever offer sheet Monroe signs and go into next season with a super deep lineup and real hopes to make some noise in the playoffs.

Lin is not the best PG in the world but he still is a smart player that can maybe change the culture of our team a bit. And you know he would find Drummond alot more than Jennings would. Jennings - Singler - Monroe - Asik is a sick bench lineup.

Lin / Jennings
KCP / Singler
Parsons / Datome
Smith / Monroe
Drummond / Asik

I would do that in a heartbeat if I could. There's no way HOU trades away Parsons though, they love him that much over there from top to bottom.

Plus Melo is more of a 4 since he creates significant match up problems there against opposing 4s who can't guard him at all. At the 3, his production isn't nearly as effective IMO.

[ComboGuardCity]

To they guy sAying other players can't be included in a s&t. See ennings, Branon

[cochiseuofm]

Is one of the assumptions in some of these trade ideas that Lin and Asik's contracts are worth $15M in a trade offer? I could be wrong but I think their cap hit in a trade is only $8M (their $25M deals averaged over the three years they were signed for.)

Getting involved in a three-way deal with Houston and New York would be extremely difficult...especially since Monroe would be a RFA, Houston would almost definitely want Melo locked down to an extension before dealing Parsons for him, and probably ditto for Detroit with Parsons.

I'm also not entirely sure getting Melo at the expense of Parsons, Lin, Asik, likely draft picks, and future cap flexibility really makes the Rockets better. So not sure why they would even do that deal.