HotelVitale wrote:Kilo wrote:Here's what to do - match any offer for Moose. That is his open market value and he gets what he's worth...Anyways the point to do this would be to start Smoove at PF with the sole goal of re-establishing his value around the league as a trade chip. This should only take a quarter of the season before teams start being interested enough in Smith for 2.5 years as a PF on their team and be willing to offer value to us in return if we can get a couple teams interested in PF Smith.
A few things:
--'open market' value often means hugely overpaying beyond what someone's 'worth' is. Was Rashard Lewis' value really anything close to $22m two years ago? No, but that's what it took to get him to ORL. Is Gerald Wallace worth $11m next year? That's what it took to keep him on the Nets. Any team can set the market value of a player by offering a huge deal; a smart team doesn't let the stupidest team in the league determine the 'worth' of a player.
--This move assumes Smith will play well. He was awful last year by any measure and there's no reason to think he'll immediately turn around and play the best quarter season he's capable of. And it also assumes that GMs are like that kid in your fantasy league who gets excited by a player's hot month and ignores the player's career patterns. Being real, we really have no idea if Smith's stock will improve. Zach Lowe suggested a few months ago that right now Smith is just about unmovable (though the Pistons might find a taker if they're lucky). It's a big gamble that he improves at all.Neptune wrote:^We're not going to match a 4yr-45/52mil deal for Monroe then play him off the bench. That way of thinking is just not realistic man. Either we try to make our big 3 work together or someone's getting traded. Ben Gordon punk a#s was the only "near max" player to come here and come off the bench because his skills regressed dramatically and he refused to play defense.
Gordon is a great example. Dumars probably thought he could just trade whoever of Rip and BG was less essential after a season or two and get good value for them. Turns out that Gordon needed a specific environment to succeed and Rip was in slow decline, so neither was worth anything and it cost us just to get out from them.
Also, I don't think we should be worried about a 4/45--it's the 4/60 that all the sportswriters are talking about that's a concern!
To your first point, tell me one other team that would have paid either Wallace or Rashard those contracts. Difference is, there are several teams that would pay Monroe the contract he's going to get.
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