The Player Who Will Save Our Franchise...

[BadMofoPimp]

Van Gundy is the worst thing that could have happened for KCP. Stan is notoriously over-critical in chastising players. KCP seems to be the kind of guy that works better with a more gentle, confidence-building approach. JMHO

Coaches who are gentle, confidence-building approach NEVER win in the NBA. KCP is a Stan type of player and will excel under Stan. If KCP can't hack being paid millions to play basketball because his boss has high expectations for him to do the job right, KCP has no reason to be in this league. Period.

Ryan Anderson is a very shy humble type of person who is sensitive. Stan was brutally hard on the kid as I witnessed him pulling him from games to admonish him. Stan Van Gundy developed him into a Starter who got his payday. Ryan still praises Stan for his success.

[Invictus88]

From everything I've seen, read & heard about SVG he's the perfect coach for KCP.

Unless KCP is going to be lazy or refuses to get with the program SVG won't have a problem

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KCP is an aquarius... aquarius people are known to be extremely hard workers from my experience.

This is why it's fantastic to get talk about the Pistons with you guys. I never in a million years would have figured Astrology would be mentioned as a way of determining worth of a basketball player.

Maybe I'm reading too much into the statement. And Finn, this isn't in any way a backhanded jab or anything like that. This comment just came at me way from left field.

Oh, and I'm an Aquarius so I guess I'll take that as a compliment?

[need4detroit]

A 300 pound gazelle.

[Maker_84]

i have all the faith in the world for KCP after seeing him at the end of the season and had the chains taken off him. He has the talent now just needs to confidence, he'll never be a #1 scoring option but could be a good #2

[Entourage27]

KCP needs to progress to be a player that can help our team to get over the hump of a 1st/2nd round exit team into a championship type team. after losing out a pick this year it is going to be tough for our franchise to get back to that level. Drummond and Monroe will be stalwarts but KCP needs to be that 3rd option unless i don't see it in our team.

SVG is that guy to help develop him and i believe that more then anything as he is one of the 10 coaches in the NBA worth holding onto their jobs.

[Kilo]

Unfortunately (or fortunately) KCP isn't big on social media it seems so we don't get regular updates to any work he's putting in this off-season, who he's working out with etc., his thoughts on his first season, why he struggled etc.

[Finn McCool]

From everything I've seen, read & heard about SVG he's the perfect coach for KCP.

Unless KCP is going to be lazy or refuses to get with the program SVG won't have a problem

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KCP is an aquarius... aquarius people are known to be extremely hard workers from my experience.

This is why it's fantastic to get talk about the Pistons with you guys. I never in a million years would have figured Astrology would be mentioned as a way of determining worth of a basketball player.

Maybe I'm reading too much into the statement. And Finn, this isn't in any way a backhanded jab or anything like that. This comment just came at me way from left field.

Oh, and I'm an Aquarius so I guess I'll take that as a compliment?

My statement was simply to suggest that KCP could be a very hard worker. It had nothing to do with his natural ability on the court or his athleticism.

I also never suggested that KCP was weak-minded or thin-skinned. There is something to be said for anyone who can handle all the different personalities in their charge. I'm not a big fan of SVG and have stated so. Time will tell. Over the last few seasons we've seen other coaches struggle handling players. I know it isn't easy.

I certainly am not here to upset anyone. I hope to find someone who shares my views, but I know that I have been of the minority opinions since I joined this forum.

[theBigLip]

Assuming that Stuckey is moving on, KCP is going to get a lot of run next year. Unless, of course, we can sign Stephenson

[kf96]

KCP with Stans help could be 2015 Most improved player

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[DetroitDon15]

Kcp is not the savior. He's a nice sixth man who needs to be a three and d type guy to succeed.

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[Finn McCool]

Van Gundy is the worst thing that could have happened for KCP. Stan is notoriously over-critical in chastising players. KCP seems to be the kind of guy that works better with a more gentle, confidence-building approach. JMHO

Coaches who are gentle, confidence-building approach NEVER win in the NBA. KCP is a Stan type of player and will excel under Stan. If KCP can't hack being paid millions to play basketball because his boss has high expectations for him to do the job right, KCP has no reason to be in this league. Period.

Ryan Anderson is a very shy humble type of person who is sensitive. Stan was brutally hard on the kid as I witnessed him pulling him from games to admonish him. Stan Van Gundy developed him into a Starter who got his payday. Ryan still praises Stan for his success.

Phil Jackson is very mild-mannered. Chuck Daly was very mild-mannered. Players wanted to play for them... to please them. Same could be said for Popovich. Pop has a huge heart... he just doesn't show it on the court. Riley was also a gentle soul... he had a commanding demeanor, but I wouldn't call him gruff. Celtics players loved playing for Red Auerbach... he had a charming personality. John Wooten at UCLA was a relatively soft spoken man who won numerous titles with some great future NBA players... granted he wasn't an NBA coach, his style was quite pacific.

However, it's been my experience that you cannot coach each individual player with the same temperment. Some you have to push... some you have to show appreciation... and some you just have to talk to like a peer. JMHO

[The Penguin]

Van Gundy is the worst thing that could have happened for KCP. Stan is notoriously over-critical in chastising players. KCP seems to be the kind of guy that works better with a more gentle, confidence-building approach. JMHO

Coaches who are gentle, confidence-building approach NEVER win in the NBA. KCP is a Stan type of player and will excel under Stan. If KCP can't hack being paid millions to play basketball because his boss has high expectations for him to do the job right, KCP has no reason to be in this league. Period.

Ryan Anderson is a very shy humble type of person who is sensitive. Stan was brutally hard on the kid as I witnessed him pulling him from games to admonish him. Stan Van Gundy developed him into a Starter who got his payday. Ryan still praises Stan for his success.

Phil Jackson is very mild-mannered. Chuck Daly was very mild-mannered. Players wanted to play for them... to please them. Same could be said for Popovich. Pop has a huge heart... he just doesn't show it on the court. Riley was also a gentle soul... he had a commanding demeanor, but I wouldn't call him gruff. Celtics players loved playing for Red Auerbach... he had a charming personality. John Wooten at UCLA was a relatively soft spoken man who won numerous titles with some great future NBA players... granted he wasn't an NBA coach, his style was quite pacific.

However, it's been my experience that you cannot coach each individual player with the same temperment. Some you have to push... some you have to show appreciation... and some you just have to talk to like a peer. JMHO

It all comes down to respect and trust. If a player believes the coach cares about their goals and can help them achieve them, they'll follow the coach whether he's an a-hole or a laid back guy. If the players think the coach doesn't have a clue it doesn't matter how the coach treats them they'll check out.

The problem with Curry, Frank, Kuester, Cheeks are they were clueless. Those aren't guys like Carlisle who ran their course here and went on to learn and have success elsewhere. Those are guys who'll never be head coaches again.

[Redeemed]

Coaches who are gentle, confidence-building approach NEVER win in the NBA. KCP is a Stan type of player and will excel under Stan. If KCP can't hack being paid millions to play basketball because his boss has high expectations for him to do the job right, KCP has no reason to be in this league. Period.

Ryan Anderson is a very shy humble type of person who is sensitive. Stan was brutally hard on the kid as I witnessed him pulling him from games to admonish him. Stan Van Gundy developed him into a Starter who got his payday. Ryan still praises Stan for his success.

Phil Jackson is very mild-mannered. Chuck Daly was very mild-mannered. Players wanted to play for them... to please them. Same could be said for Popovich. Pop has a huge heart... he just doesn't show it on the court. Riley was also a gentle soul... he had a commanding demeanor, but I wouldn't call him gruff. Celtics players loved playing for Red Auerbach... he had a charming personality. John Wooten at UCLA was a relatively soft spoken man who won numerous titles with some great future NBA players... granted he wasn't an NBA coach, his style was quite pacific.

However, it's been my experience that you cannot coach each individual player with the same temperment. Some you have to push... some you have to show appreciation... and some you just have to talk to like a peer. JMHO

It all comes down to respect and trust. If a player believes the coach cares about their goals and can help them achieve them, they'll follow the coach whether he's an a-hole or a laid back guy. If the players think the coach doesn't have a clue it doesn't matter how the coach treats them they'll check out.

The problem with Curry, Frank, Kuester, Cheeks are they were clueless. Those aren't guys like Carlisle who ran their course here and went on to learn and have success elsewhere. Those are guys who'll never be head coaches again.

THIS!

[Han Solo]

I'm expecting a break0out season from KCP. I seen he has it.. It's just confidence now.

[Pharaoh]

We all know SVG can coach...

What we don't know is if he can get knuckleheads to buy in.

IF SVG can get Jennings to buy in completely we'll be much better off. IF Smith buys in too we'll be dangerous.

KCP? He's the least of our problems...not a savior though. We shouldn't expect him to be anything more than reasonable in his 2nd season

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[Redeemed]

A single player on this roster cannot be the savior of our team, it will have to be a collective effort. That effort will start with a clear vision, SVG area. I was encouraged to hear that SVG came in with a defined plan, complete with a big binder. I think we've been scrapping the bottom of the barrel and getting what we've paid for, namely murky minded coaches who cannot lead.

As for buy-in, I think SVG has a strong enough personality to bench the knuckleheads and feed them to the media if need be. He has the full backing of the front office, since he is the front office. That being the case, no player is going to feel empowered to tattle to mgmt. He's got the Gores seal of approval, so players can't run to ownership.

That leaves either buying in or riding the pine. Josh Smith can kick rocks for all I care. He's a guy with the potential to change the course of the game in so many ways, but he lacks to IQ to properly assess his role. This team has a nice young core with KCP, Moose (if we keep him), and Drummond. I think with some tweaks, we can make a 180 from last season's crap fest, but it takes direction and effort.