Reggie Jackson

[mattao313]

Dinwiddle may have been a 1st rounder if he didn't get injured. Lets see what they can do first. But, I don't see Reggie as a game changer deserving big dollars. More middle of the pack PG who shouldn't make more than $8. Let some other team waste their cap on him.

8 bucks...tough crowd. I like Reggie better than IT2, and nobody was complaining that we were rumored to offer him 8m/yr. I think Reggie is comparable to Kyle Lowry, and Toronto got a steal of a deal for him at 12m/yr. 12-13m/yr is pretty reasonable (possibly the standard for "middle of the pack" PGs), especially considering the changes in the salary cap structure coming up.

He's also playing behind Russell Westbrook (when he's healthy). The few times he's had the opportunity to start in his stead, he's been impressive. Unfortunately (for him, maybe fortunately for whoever signs him) he hasn't had the opportunity to really build consistency for the FA market.

IT is waayy better than Reggie IMO better scorer and passer. I love his attitude he plays with a chip on his shoulder if we could have got him I would have been ecstatic.

[epheisey]

IT is waayy better than Reggie IMO better scorer and passer. I love his attitude he plays with a chip on his shoulder if we could have got him I would have been ecstatic.

He's also tiny, and turns the ball over too much. I like a PG who is a little bigger, just personal preference, might not be any tangible difference. A PG who rebounds also gives me the impression that they're going balls to the wall all the time, crashing the boards even though there are guys that have 80lbs and 8 inches on them. IT2 was a starter, and had a couple incredible finishers to dish the ball to in Cousins and Gay. I'll wait and see him playing in Phoenix for a while before I call him a better passer than Reggie. I do think IT2 is a better scorer, but that's not what I want in a PG either. I want a distributor that can create when necessary. Maybe IT2 has that ability, and maybe it would have worked here in Detroit with our roster, but I view him more as a score first guy, while Reggie APPEARS more balanced.

[DetroitSho]

Reggie may be better only because he has played in the NBA for a few years, but he hasn't proven that he is capable of being a great starting PG on a playoff caliber team. He has proven that he can fill in as a backup PG. That don't mean jack. Donald Sloan is killing it in Indiana destroying Reggie Jacksons numbers. Maybe, we should give him more Max money than Reggie too.

If Dinwiddie was on let's say Memphis' bench with a total of about 10 minutes played in the NBA (or however much it is), would you seriously believe he has more potential than Reggie Jackson?

And you can't prove to be a great starting PG on a playoff caliber team until you actually get the opportunity to. And speaking of which, IN THE PLAYOFFS, he has shown the ability to step up and play well when Russ was out. I gotta say, before his name was called on draft night I had never heard of Dinwiddie. I honestly believe this to be the case for others on here as well. But since he now has on a Pistons uniform we're way more confident about his ability to be great. To me that's disingenuous.

It's quite curious that a fan base who seems to think only the top 3 picks in the draft are worth drafting for are now propping up a 2nd rounder so tough.

Dinwiddle may have been a 1st rounder if he didn't get injured. Lets see what they can do first. But, I don't see Reggie as a game changer deserving big dollars. More middle of the pack PG who shouldn't make more than $8. Let some other team waste their cap on him.

Yeah if you say so. I'm just saying, he MAY have been a 1st round pick. I keep hearing that. But I'm just confused on the jekyll and Hyde mentality on this board. For years when we were set to finish around 7-10 in the draft lottery, many people basically cursed the team for being in no man's land and not tanking for a top 3 pick. Because apparently people have been perverted into thinking you could only help your team by getting a top 3 pick. But now all of sudden a guy drafted in the 30s, that MAY have been at best mid teens if he played out of his mind over a specified 2 week stretch, all of a sudden has more potential than a guy who is a steady contributor on a title contender?

So if this is the case, can we stop the ridiculousness of thinking we only can help ourselves by getting a top 3 pick? I mean hell, we just got our PG of the future in the 2nd round right?

[mattao313]

IT is waayy better than Reggie IMO better scorer and passer. I love his attitude he plays with a chip on his shoulder if we could have got him I would have been ecstatic.

He's also tiny, and turns the ball over too much. I like a PG who is a little bigger, just personal preference, might not be any tangible difference. A PG who rebounds also gives me the impression that they're going balls to the wall all the time, crashing the boards even though there are guys that have 80lbs and 8 inches on them. IT2 was a starter, and had a couple incredible finishers to dish the ball to in Cousins and Gay. I'll wait and see him playing in Phoenix for a while before I call him a better passer than Reggie. I do think IT2 is a better scorer, but that's not what I want in a PG either. I want a distributor that can create when necessary. Maybe IT2 has that ability, and maybe it would have worked here in Detroit with our roster, but I view him more as a score first guy, while Reggie APPEARS more balanced.

I agree about the size part but to be honest I really don't see the difference in there playing style. Both combo guards that have that score first mind set and both at best average defenders but IT is the more skilled one. IT wasn't great fit for the Kings cause they have two other go to scores but we need back court scoring and he can still can pass to. But I guess their about equal cause Reggie is bigger but IT more skilled. Plus even tho its only the season start IT playin better than Reggie.

[sc8581]

He's a mediocre 6th man, c'mon now guys.

[DTP]

What exactly can Jackson do that Jennings can't? Maybe a little better of a defender but eh...

[Bakuto]

The only way I'd want Jackson for the money he wants is if his contract wouldn't count against the cap.

Since that's not going to happen then no thanks.

[BadMofoPimp]

If Dinwiddie was on let's say Memphis' bench with a total of about 10 minutes played in the NBA (or however much it is), would you seriously believe he has more potential than Reggie Jackson?

And you can't prove to be a great starting PG on a playoff caliber team until you actually get the opportunity to. And speaking of which, IN THE PLAYOFFS, he has shown the ability to step up and play well when Russ was out. I gotta say, before his name was called on draft night I had never heard of Dinwiddie. I honestly believe this to be the case for others on here as well. But since he now has on a Pistons uniform we're way more confident about his ability to be great. To me that's disingenuous.

It's quite curious that a fan base who seems to think only the top 3 picks in the draft are worth drafting for are now propping up a 2nd rounder so tough.

Dinwiddle may have been a 1st rounder if he didn't get injured. Lets see what they can do first. But, I don't see Reggie as a game changer deserving big dollars. More middle of the pack PG who shouldn't make more than $8. Let some other team waste their cap on him.

Yeah if you say so. I'm just saying, he MAY have been a 1st round pick. I keep hearing that. But I'm just confused on the jekyll and Hyde mentality on this board. For years when we were set to finish around 7-10 in the draft lottery, many people basically cursed the team for being in no man's land and not tanking for a top 3 pick. Because apparently people have been perverted into thinking you could only help your team by getting a top 3 pick. But now all of sudden a guy drafted in the 30s, that MAY have been at best mid teens if he played out of his mind over a specified 2 week stretch, all of a sudden has more potential than a guy who is a steady contributor on a title contender?

So if this is the case, can we stop the ridiculousness of thinking we only can help ourselves by getting a top 3 pick? I mean hell, we just got our PG of the future in the 2nd round right?

I agree. Half the teams who win ships didn't accomplish it with a top draft pick. Lakers, Dallas, Pistons etc. A combination of smart drafting role players and free agents can always get the job done just as easy.