Happy thoughts - what would we do with the first pick?

[Laimbeer]

If we get the first pick this summer, who do we like? Do we trade down?

[MotownMadness]

I have 3 options I would consider if we land the #1

1.) Draft Mudiay and move forward while still trying to trade Smith and Jennings

2.) Draft Okafor and trade Drummond for another top 5 pick. So try and come out of the draft with Okafor and Jonson or something like that.

3.) Maybe a team picking in the top 5 will be so in love with Okafor that they would trade theyre pick to us for the #1 and Smith. Which would still give us a top 5 pick while also finally ditching Smith.

Depending on how good we think Mudiay can be, Im leaning towards option 3.

[treefi]

"I don't know what to do."

Hopefully those are my own thoughts and not SVG's....

[MotownMadness]

Either way I would much rather be in this position then chasing a 8th seed playoff blowout lead by Smennings. We will all be happier then we have in the last 5 years if we land a top 2 pick. Okafor and Mudiay are huge assets and would just make me feel alot better next season.

[MrBigShot]

The way I see there are only two options:

1. Draft BPA regardless of position. Do not trade down, just take the guy who we feel has the greatest chance to become the best player in the draft. If it was today I'd draft Mudiay probably.

2. Trade it for an -established- bonafide star player.

[treefi]

I'm not sold on Mudiay yet and would like to see what Rodney Stuckey(or hell, Spencer Dinwiddie) looks like in China. From what I've seen Mudiay is much more of a natural passer than Stuckey and PG really is his natural position, so that's good... but-

I'm just not yet convinced he is potentially an NBA 'franchise player'... and if we're picking #1, that's what we need.

[mattao313]

I think I siad this already in another thread but:

1.Draft Okafor and let Monroe walk and keep Drummond ( I think they can play together).

2. Trade BJ for a pick and scrubs let Dinwiddie start.

3. Throw big money at SF like Tobias and Jimmy and see if there teams match.

Maybe some other stuff but can't think of it right now.

[MotownMadness]

I'm not sold on Mudiay yet and would like to see what Rodney Stuckey(or hell, Spencer Dinwiddie) looks like in China. From what I've seen Mudiay is much more of a natural passer than Stuckey and PG really is his natural position, so that's good... but-

I'm just not yet convinced he is potentially an NBA 'franchise player'... and if we're picking #1, that's what we need.

My gut feeling is to draft him based on hype and highlight footage. But you're right, Him playing in China and putting up those numbers can be scary. We would have to do one hell of a scouting job on him if we are using the #1 pick because we all know how hard it is to actually land it.

Its all still too early too really know for sure. We need too see the college tournament and if this team actually commits too full tank like other teams come the second half of the season. I remember we were 4-20 a couple of years ago and still finished up the year picking 8th. If we are this bad come the end of the season its going to be a very exciting time come tournament and draft lottery time though.

[treefi]

I'm not sold on Mudiay yet and would like to see what Rodney Stuckey(or hell, Spencer Dinwiddie) looks like in China. From what I've seen Mudiay is much more of a natural passer than Stuckey and PG really is his natural position, so that's good... but-

I'm just not yet convinced he is potentially an NBA 'franchise player'... and if we're picking #1, that's what we need.

My gut feeling is to draft him based on hype and highlight footage. But you're right, Him playing in China and putting up those numbers can be scary. We would have to do one hell of a scouting job on him if we are using the #1 pick because we all know how hard it is to actually land it.

Its all still too early too really know for sure. We need too see the college tournament and if this team actually commits too full tank like other teams come the second half of the season. I remember we were 4-20 a couple of years ago and still finished up the year picking 8th. If we are this bad come the end of the season its going to be a very exciting time come tournament and draft lottery time though.

Yeah, it'll remind me of the excitement I felt winning the #2 pick we ended up using on Darko! That year started my addiction to 'open source' scouting NBA draft prospects.

[Notanoob]

I've already stated why I'm not a huge fan of Okafor- zero rim protection, not mobile enough to make up for it defensively (which would make him a PF anyways), can't draw fouls which will hurt his offensive impact a la Al Jefferson- sure he has all the moves, but if he can't draw contact then he won't score with really special offensive efficiency. Since Okafor actually has passing instincts, he should be a better offensive focal point than Jefferson, but his defense could be worse since Jefferson can at least protect the paint. Of course, I still feel pretty attached to Andre, so that's sort of clouding my judgement here, but Okafor isn't my favorite here.

Neither is Mudiay, I'm fairly anti-PG with top picks, I don't think that a PG will have the impact to warrant a top pick- he isn't CP3 or Curry.

I really like the fit Porzingis would have with Drummond. Super skilled, long and can shoot the ball- this guy has it all. I can't shake the feeling that it'd be Darko 2.0 in the sense that he's a super-forward Euro- but all he really needs to do is bulk up a bit.

Towns could be a great fit too. The guy is very skilled, but he's been incredible for UK so far- he's been rebounding and blocking shots like mad- but the problem is that he's doing it in small minutes because UK has so many good bigs. He's currently pulling down 15 rebounds per 40 pace adjusted, and also getting 5.7 blocks per 40 pace adjusted, but it's just 18 minutes a game. I'm not sure how good he really is on the glass and on defense because he's the minutes of an energy guy, not a workhorse. Passing has looked very nice. He could be a great replacement for Moose, assuming he walks.

I really want a wing though, not another big man. None of the top wing prospects look like #1 material yet.

Stanley Johnson has played absolutely stellar defense, but he's been a TO machine on offense. I don't trust him to keep shooting this well either. As much as we need defense on the wing, we also need a shot creator of some sort.

I like Justice Winslow more, even though he hasn't shot as well or dominated defensively like Johnson. This is kind of weird for me. All the advanced stats stuff that I love is saying that Johnson is better so far. He's beating Winslow is offensive rebounds and steals by a lot, he's shooting better, and this is with Johnson playing in a system that looked like it was suppressing steals and blocks numbers last season for guys like Aaron Gordon. But I still sort of like Winslow more. I just like his feel for the offense better.

There is still a long way to go though. I haven't decided on who I like best for #1 overall.

[onetwothree]

Wow. Before the season started, I was expecting Detroit to challenge for 5 - 8 in the East. What Happened :s :s :s

SVG needs to blow this team up asap. Whoever your previous GM was, he was a complete idiot. Drummond is amazing and Monroe is awesome but Monroe is 100% lost. He should just be traded. There's no chance he will resign. If he was going to resign, he would have not taken the risk of playing this season without a contract.

This team seemed like it had a lot of talent but now it seems like the most broken team in the league. Yea the sixers are doing bad but they have 5 really GOOD pieces with a lot of potential. Detroit has Drummond. I don't know much about KCP though

[MotownMadness]

I've already stated why I'm not a huge fan of Okafor- zero rim protection, not mobile enough to make up for it defensively (which would make him a PF anyways), can't draw fouls which will hurt his offensive impact a la Al Jefferson- sure he has all the moves, but if he can't draw contact then he won't score with really special offensive efficiency. Since Okafor actually has passing instincts, he should be a better offensive focal point than Jefferson, but his defense could be worse since Jefferson can at least protect the paint. Of course, I still feel pretty attached to Andre, so that's sort of clouding my judgement here, but Okafor isn't my favorite here.

Neither is Mudiay, I'm fairly anti-PG with top picks, I don't think that a PG will have the impact to warrant a top pick- he isn't CP3 or Curry.

I really like the fit Porzingis would have with Drummond. Super skilled, long and can shoot the ball- this guy has it all. I can't shake the feeling that it'd be Darko 2.0 in the sense that he's a super-forward Euro- but all he really needs to do is bulk up a bit.

Towns could be a great fit too. The guy is very skilled, but he's been incredible for UK so far- he's been rebounding and blocking shots like mad- but the problem is that he's doing it in small minutes because UK has so many good bigs. He's currently pulling down 15 rebounds per 40 pace adjusted, and also getting 5.7 blocks per 40 pace adjusted, but it's just 18 minutes a game. I'm not sure how good he really is on the glass and on defense because he's the minutes of an energy guy, not a workhorse. Passing has looked very nice. He could be a great replacement for Moose, assuming he walks.

I really want a wing though, not another big man. None of the top wing prospects look like #1 material yet.

Stanley Johnson has played absolutely stellar defense, but he's been a TO machine on offense. I don't trust him to keep shooting this well either. As much as we need defense on the wing, we also need a shot creator of some sort.

I like Justice Winslow more, even though he hasn't shot as well or dominated defensively like Johnson. This is kind of weird for me. All the advanced stats stuff that I love is saying that Johnson is better so far. He's beating Winslow is offensive rebounds and steals by a lot, he's shooting better, and this is with Johnson playing in a system that looked like it was suppressing steals and blocks numbers last season for guys like Aaron Gordon. But I still sort of like Winslow more. I just like his feel for the offense better.

There is still a long way to go though. I haven't decided on who I like best for #1 overall.

I kinda feel the same way about Okafor. Theres no denying the kid has a very polished low post offensive game but in a way hes the same player as Monroe. Hes actually exactly like Monroe but with a higher ceiling. Both are great low post scorers with no athleticism and no defense.. And the no athleticism part really draws flaws to other parts of theyre game, especially defensively.

So far Stanley Johnson is my favorite prospect but thats also because he seems like the safest pick as well. But if were talking about picking #1 overall im going with Mudiay at this moment and time because you want someone who shows signs that they can be a star. And right now I think hes the most fitting for that.

[DocRI]

Don't overthink things, guys — a team as bad as our should always take BPA with the #1 pick. Pair that player with Durmmond and move forward from there, with literally everything else on the table / subject to change. It's still too early in the season to tell who that is, but right now it's looking like Okafor or Mudiay.

[Pharaoh]

I'd try and trade the pick for multiple young prospects

We need to let our free agents walk (except maybe Singler) & rebuild with players SVG wants here.

Today's game vs Philly was obviously a showcase for Smith! I'm not holding my breath but it would be nice to see him traded...another Joe Dumars mistake we're still paying for!

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