Post-Josh Smith Pistons Era: New Starting Lineup/Rotation?

[KCP5]

Surely we have to fill this roster spot with a big. If an injury were to happen to Dre, Moose or JJ or even foul trouble which has been quite common this season then it leaves us very thin.

[epheisey]

Surely we have to fill this roster spot with a big. If an injury were to happen to Dre, Moose or JJ or even foul trouble which has been quite common this season then it leaves us very thin.

Open roster spot is better for possible trade purposes, and while not ideal, we can run with Anthony and JJ as the primary backups. I would also imagine that a small lineup is also likely on occasion given SVG's past offensive designs.

Unless we have an injury, I wouldn't expect a signing just for the sake of a signing.

[epheisey]

off-topic: if another team signs Josh Smith as a free agent, does that come off what is owed to him by us? I read somewhere it did..

Im probably wrong but I think whatever he signs for would come off the 14 mil we owe him this season is all.

As I understand it, only if he is claimed off waivers. If he clears waivers, we're on the hook for the whole thing.

[epheisey]

Pistons need to move Augustine. If we only can get an expiring, take it. DJ isn't doing enough for me to not see what Dinwiddle can do. I don't say start Spencer but he needs to play. We can't have a repeat of the waste of space that Mitchel is. Decline Butler's option as he is a reverse at best at this point in his career. Expirings go bye bye. Give Jennings the rest of hte year to improve his stock and ship him out for whatever we get. No Gordon or Smith treatment but get what we can for him. I'd also explore all S&T for Monroe to get more teams interested/involved. Any S&T involves a pick coming back in 2015.

Why would any team want DJ? And why would they give up an expiring for him?

[princeofpalace]

Pistons need to move Augustine. If we only can get an expiring, take it. DJ isn't doing enough for me to not see what Dinwiddle can do. I don't say start Spencer but he needs to play. We can't have a repeat of the waste of space that Mitchel is. Decline Butler's option as he is a reverse at best at this point in his career. Expirings go bye bye. Give Jennings the rest of hte year to improve his stock and ship him out for whatever we get. No Gordon or Smith treatment but get what we can for him. I'd also explore all S&T for Monroe to get more teams interested/involved. Any S&T involves a pick coming back in 2015.

Why would any team want DJ? And why would they give up an expiring for him?

Sometimes players just need a change of scenery, DJ being horrible for Detroit doesn't mean that he's a horrible player. He was a very good player for the Bulls.

[dVs33]

off-topic: if another team signs Josh Smith as a free agent, does that come off what is owed to him by us? I read somewhere it did..

Im probably wrong but I think whatever he signs for would come off the 14 mil we owe him this season is all.

As I understand it, only if he is claimed off waivers. If he clears waivers, we're on the hook for the whole thing.

This is correct... i think

I'm pretty sure when guys were being amnestied and picked up, they would sign for x amount with the new team adn the old team would pay the balance.
In Smiths case, he was simply waived. A team could have claimed him off waivers but that would have meant they accepted his contract (the remaining $13.5 mil per or whatever it was). When he cleared waivers that meant Detroit pays out his deal using the stretch provision thing over 5 years (stretches out the cap hit over 5 years as opposed to 2) and he gets extra money from his new contract too.
SVG did the right thing by Smith in a big way. He's getting more money and he'll get to play on a contender.

[Redeemed]

Pistons need to move Augustine. If we only can get an expiring, take it. DJ isn't doing enough for me to not see what Dinwiddle can do. I don't say start Spencer but he needs to play. We can't have a repeat of the waste of space that Mitchel is. Decline Butler's option as he is a reverse at best at this point in his career. Expirings go bye bye. Give Jennings the rest of hte year to improve his stock and ship him out for whatever we get. No Gordon or Smith treatment but get what we can for him. I'd also explore all S&T for Monroe to get more teams interested/involved. Any S&T involves a pick coming back in 2015.

Why would any team want DJ? And why would they give up an expiring for him?

Sometimes players just need a change of scenery, DJ being horrible for Detroit doesn't mean that he's a horrible player. He was a very good player for the Bulls.

I agree. DJ did well with Charlotte outplaying Felton for the starting spot. Then he crapped it up in Toronto and Indiana only to turn things around in Chicago. I think there's a place for him in the league where he can be a serviceable back up.

I also agree with the assessment that Mitchell is a waste of space. He was another in a long list of Dumars failed gambles. One of those complacent cats who he thought he could inspire for greatness.

I'd actually like to see us go after Thaddeus Young to fill our need for a 3 and Paul Milsap as a replacement for Monroe. Young is an energetic athlete with range. Milsap is a workhorse who also has range and post moves. Both of those guys would be nice additions that would compliment Drummond by opening the lane.

[The Penguin]

This is correct... i think

I'm pretty sure when guys were being amnestied and picked up, they would sign for x amount with the new team adn the old team would pay the balance.
In Smiths case, he was simply waived. A team could have claimed him off waivers but that would have meant they accepted his contract (the remaining $13.5 mil per or whatever it was). When he cleared waivers that meant Detroit pays out his deal using the stretch provision thing over 5 years (stretches out the cap hit over 5 years as opposed to 2) and he gets extra money from his new contract too.
SVG did the right thing by Smith in a big way. He's getting more money and he'll get to play on a contender.

We do get a slight offset, per the CBA:

"If another team signs a released player who had a guaranteed contract (as long as the player has cleared waivers), the player's original team is allowed to reduce the amount of money they still owe the player (and lower their team payroll) by the right of set-off. This is true if the player signs with any professional team—it does not even have to be an NBA team. The amount the original team gets to set off is limited to one-half the difference between the player's new salary and a pro-rated share of the minimum salary for a one-year veteran (if the player is a rookie, then the rookie minimum is used instead)."

[Snakebites]

Does that deduction only apply to the first contract he signs?

Like, for example, if he signs an MLE type deal in the offseason do we get to deduct according to that for next year?