POP's Plan to Rebuild The Team

[BigFatBob]

This rebuild idea is awful

[rmfc]

This rebuild idea is awful

Agreed.

[mercury]

Always have issues with posters labeling Drummond dumb or with no offensive game... let's think beyond polished post moves or elbow jumpers... his size and quickness IS A SKILL!... It creates an extremely efficient offensive player with SKILLS that most centers don't posses.... what is the conversion rate on lobs?
He's capable of altering shots (look that up in your advanced stats)... he leverages offensive and defensive players out of the box for a clear advantage in rebounds and lowering opponents efficiency.... his quickness on interior help is something that Monroe and Okafor will never achieve (free chili)
I swear some of these arm chair QBs have never played the game.

[epheisey]

This team is gearing up for another 2-3 years of sucking before we're competitive again. Monroe is gone. Smith needs to be stashed in the locker room. We have Drummond and KCP at this point. We'll draft another starter, who will probably immediately become our best player, which is in no way a good thing.

At this point, I don't see any team taking Smith. He deserves the Eddy Curry treatment.

Bringing in players like Draymond Green and Brandon Wright to be starters and big time contributors will backfire. They work well on good teams where they can fill needed roles, but I anticipate that they will struggle when they have to carry a team on their shoulders. We just did the exact same thing with Josh Smith. He was a great complementary piece in Atlanta, but when he showed up here, initially as the best player on the team, he fell apart. Same with Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva.

I didn't realize people missed Joe D so much so soon.



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[MotownMadness]

Always have issues with posters labeling Drummond dumb or with no offensive game... let's think beyond polished post moves or elbow jumpers... his size and quickness IS A SKILL!... It creates an extremely efficient offensive player with SKILLS that most centers don't posses.... what is the % of conversion rate on lobs?
He's capable of altering shots (look that up in your advanced stats)... he leverages offensive and defensive players out of the box for a clear advantage in rebounds and lowering opponents efficiency.... his quickness on interior help is something that Monroe and Okafor will never achieve (free chili)
I swear some of these arm chair QBs have never played the game.

I agree with this, He has a go to move The Dunk and if it was so easy then every scrub and dumb player would do it and avg 13.5ppg on 60% efficiency. The kid is a rare breed of physical specimen that can just be a dominant force.

[ImHeisenberg]

No thanks


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[Defor]

It saddens me that we're on the verge of out performing a team like Philli at losing , when they are one of the greatest tanking teams I've ever seen.

[princeofpalace]

This team is gearing up for another 2-3 years of sucking before we're competitive again. Monroe is gone. Smith needs to be stashed in the locker room. We have Drummond and KCP at this point. We'll draft another starter, who will probably immediately become our best player, which is in no way a good thing.

At this point, I don't see any team taking Smith. He deserves the Eddy Curry treatment.

Bringing in players like Draymond Green and Brandon Wright to be starters and big time contributors will backfire. They work well on good teams where they can fill needed roles, but I anticipate that they will struggle when they have to carry a team on their shoulders. We just did the exact same thing with Josh Smith. He was a great complementary piece in Atlanta, but when he showed up here, initially as the best player on the team, he fell apart. Same with Ben Gordon, Charlie Villanueva.

I didn't realize people missed Joe D so much so soon.


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Eh, Wright is backup PF and Green is a role playing PF. I'm not having them be big time contributers thats what Mudiay/Wiggins/Monroe are for. I put them on this team because they fill a role at the PF spot- Green stretches the floor and Wright defends and blocks shots- not sure how anyone can look at the team as constructed and deduce that Green/Wright are the supposed to carry the load.

[Piston Pete]

If anyone's plan has Monroe staying long-term as our C.....then we need a defensive-minded PF next to him.

Henson/Wright type

I want nothing to do with a Green/Monroe starting frontcourt. Offensively, if would work. Defensively, it would be bad.

[dVs33]

Trade 1: Detroit trades Andre Drummond to MN for Andrew Wiggins. Why for us- we need a SF. Why for MN- they have a wing glut and could use a young c with potential.

This is a hard one. I wouldn't be angry if it happened, but I would lean towards keeping Drummond. Wiggins has amazing potential, but he's still raw. I think Drummonds floor is much higher.

Trade 2: Detroit trades Josh Smith to Kings for Williams/Thompson. Detroit swallows their pride and takes the Kings offer for Smith which gives them more cap flexibility in FA.

Love this

Draft: PG- Emmanual Mudiay in the lottery, get the BPA in the 2nd

Sure. we need the best guy available and deal with the fit later.

Resign- Greg Monroe to a 5 year max.

Yep. it's a lot of money, but that's the way the league is now.

Resign Joel Anthony to a 1 year min contract

Nope. If we keep drummond, it's unnecessary.

Sign- SF/PF Draymond Green to a 4/48 deal. Green can rebound, defend and stretch the floor.

I like this a lot. in my variant, green fits next to Monroe or drummond.

Sign- PF Brandon Wright to a 3/18 deal. Wright is a solid backup PF- who rebounds, defends and blocks shots.

Meh. Seems a little rich for a guy like Wright.

Sign- SF- Alonzo Gee to a 2 year min contract.

Meh. He's a good wing depth guy.

To be honest, moving smith and signing green would be great. we could draft a SF or sign one and we'd be in a much better position.

[whitehops]

Trade 1: Detroit trades Andre Drummond to MN for Andrew Wiggins. Why for MN- ... could use a young c with potential.

they already have one in dieng. as much as I'd like wiggins on the pistons I think Drummond is more valuable

[ComboGuardCity]

If you're not signing green to be a big part, you don't pay him 12 mill a year.


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[princeofpalace]

Here's a less drastic plan

Midseason Trade
1) Trade DJ Augustin to Toronto for Tyler Hansborough (really any team with an EC works and if DJ starts picking up his play we could get a 2nd or something for him). We need to forcefeed Dinwiddie minutes and gain more capspace.

Draft (draft pick on the assumption that we fall into the 7-9 range again)
#8) PG D'angelo Russell- has very good court vision and is a great shooter. He has good athleticism but needs to get stronger. In the bottom half of the lottery, he's a solid pick.

Offseason
Sign SF Tobias Harris to a 4/55 deal. Why? Harris is only 22 years old and has made tremendous improvements to his game already. He's improved as a scorer, and a shooter and has made strides defensively. We would finally have a wing that can create shots and compliment DrumRoe- not to metion that Tobias is incredibly clutch. We have to overpay him to pry him from the Magic, who may not choose to resign him if the price is too high because they will be grooming Aaron Gordon to play the 3.

Sign PF/C Ed Davis to a 3/12 deal. Why? Davis is just 25 years old, he's athletic, he can block shots, play defense and hit a 15 foot jumper. We need to bolster our defense and Davis helps with that.

Sign SF Alonzo Gee to a 2 year vets min deal. Gee is a very good perimeter defender, which is something we desperately need and he comes cheaply.

We resign Jonas Jerebko to a 2/6 deal- he's been flourishing under SVG, he has a role on this team as a combo F that can spread the floor.

We resign Joel Anthony to a 1 year vets min deal. He's a big body/

We resign Greg Monroe to a 5/75 deal. He will be getting max offers in FA, we offer him a little less than the max but at 5 years- which should be enough to keep him. Monroe looks splendid next to Drummond and if he keeps making that midrange jumper than this is really a no brainer.

2015-2016 Detroit Pistons
Jennings/Russell/Dinwiddie
KCP/Meeks/Martin/
Harris/Jerebko/Gee
Monroe/Davis/Jerebko
Drummond/Monroe/Joel Anthony

This is a young team that's got a serious talent infusion at the SF spot with Harris- who compliments DrumRoe perfectly and has the potential to turn into one of the premiere SF in the league, got a guy who can come in and play great defense on perimeter players in Gee, a PF who can defend, rebound, block shots and hit a midrange jumper in Davis. We also start grooming Russell to take over for Jennings at PG.

[ElectricMayhem]

If we were to sign Draymond to a 4/48 contract as suggested in the OP, I'm pretty sure he would be back in a GSW uniform next year. I'm not as sure about signing Tobias Harris to 4/55. I don't really know where Orlando stands with him. If we were to offer that, though, would we have any room under even an increasing salary cap to ever sign a PG or SG to anything beyond the vet minimum? We'd have $36mil/year tied up in SF/PF (including Josh Smith) plus whatever Drummond will be making...