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Player who has benefited most from Josh Smith departure?

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Player who has benefited most from Josh Smith departure? 

Post#1 » by Laimbeer » Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:36 pm

What Piston player has benefited most from the Josh Smith departure?
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Post#2 » by Cowology » Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:49 pm

Yes.
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Post#3 » by MotownMadness » Sun Jan 4, 2015 3:54 pm

As of right now it's been pretty much everyone. Drummond has a lot more space to work with and everyone else has more space to shoot with because of Drummond down low. I like how Drummond is getting those assist in the last game too. Just bring the defense in and kick it out for a open 3, The Stan Van Way.
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Re: Player who has benefited most from Josh Smith departure? 

Post#4 » by ImHeisenberg » Sun Jan 4, 2015 4:24 pm

Laimbeer wrote:What Piston player has benefited most from the Josh Smith departure?


Isn't the answer literally everyone? The team, management, the fans.
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Post#5 » by haulerch » Sun Jan 4, 2015 4:38 pm

If I have to pick one player, I'll go with Brandon Jennings. Seems like not only does Smith's removal allow BJ7 to have the ball in his hands more, it has also allowed his personality to open up more. He is no longer deferring to the alpha dog.

Overall, the whole team has seemed to have a much more positive vibe in personality. But in terms of actual play.
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Post#6 » by mattao313 » Sun Jan 4, 2015 5:52 pm

haulerch wrote:If I have to pick one player, I'll go with Brandon Jennings. Seems like not only does Smith's removal allow BJ7 to have the ball in his hands more, it has also allowed his personality to open up more. He is no longer deferring to the alpha dog.

Overall, the whole team has seemed to have a much more positive vibe in personality. But in terms of actual play.

you took the words right out of my mouth I agree completely.
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Post#7 » by hoophabit » Sun Jan 4, 2015 6:00 pm

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haulerch wrote:If I have to pick one player, I'll go with Brandon Jennings. Seems like not only does Smith's removal allow BJ7 to have the ball in his hands more, it has also allowed his personality to open up more. He is no longer deferring to the alpha dog.

Overall, the whole team has seemed to have a much more positive vibe in personality. But in terms of actual play.

you took the words right out of my mouth I agree completely.


This, although second would have to be DJ. The Piston point guards have both benefited from having JS out of the way. The team seems to benefit from having the PGs run the offense. :crazy:
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Post#8 » by MrBigShot » Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:07 pm

Jennings for sure. The one bad game he's had in this 4 game stretch came in a game where DJ was playing really well anyway and we were up big.
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Post#9 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jan 5, 2015 2:11 am

Jennings mostly. If you look at statistically how many times Smith took the ball down the floor, you'd almost want SVG fired. You take those touches away from smith and give it to jennings. All of a sudden our transition offense is a little more dangerous and we benefit from defensive stops that lead to transition offense.

Per KL jennings also "became himself again", was beign vocal and honestly as much as i hate it, playin w some swag.

If not jennigns, most surely Poop. He's been actually great all year, still not as consistent as we want, but definitely value off our bench. and more minutes
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Post#10 » by ARoS » Mon Jan 5, 2015 1:11 pm

If I was in the mood for trying to make people laugh I'd say Anthony Tolliver. Then I'd remember that Tolliver was traded for, with Mitchell, so us waiving Smith didn't directly correlate with us signing Tolliver. So, no, Tolliver didn't benefit from Smith's departure, pers se. So the "joke" wouldn't have made any real sense, even if it was funny. Which it definitely wasn't.

In summary, Jennings.
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Post#11 » by Redeemed » Mon Jan 5, 2015 1:33 pm

All of them...players, coaches, front office, vendors, fans at the games, fans who watch from a distance...Michigan
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Post#12 » by Lionlifer » Mon Jan 5, 2015 4:32 pm

Probably my blood pressure, been a real team player over the years, always taking one for the team :)

In reality, it's almost impossible to pick one, so I'll say "Yes" as well.
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Re: Player who has benefited most from Josh Smith departure? 

Post#13 » by Damon_3388 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 12:52 am

Andre Drummond - 30.9 mpg, 15.0 ppg (.627 FG%, .--- 3PT%, .297 FT%), 15.8 rpg, 1.4 apg, 1.8 spg, 2.4 bpg, 1.6 tpg, 2.8 fpg

Brandon Jennings - 26.6 mpg, 21.6 ppg (.558 FG%, .486 3PT%, .833 FT%), 3.0 rpg, 5.6 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.0 bpg, 2.0 tpg, 1.8 fpg
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Post#14 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 1:07 am

ARoS wrote:If I was in the mood for trying to make people laugh I'd say Anthony Tolliver. Then I'd remember that Tolliver was traded for, with Mitchell, so us waiving Smith didn't directly correlate with us signing Tolliver. So, no, Tolliver didn't benefit from Smith's departure, pers se. So the "joke" wouldn't have made any real sense, even if it was funny. Which it definitely wasn't.

In summary, Jennings.


i totally understood this
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Post#15 » by MotownMadness » Tue Jan 6, 2015 1:47 am

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Post#16 » by moistie » Tue Jan 6, 2015 6:24 am

I can't find a picture of the entire 2014-15 roster to post here.
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Post#17 » by DetroitSho » Tue Jan 6, 2015 11:43 am

moistie wrote:I can't find a picture of the entire 2014-15 roster to post here.

I can't find a picture of the city of Detroit to post here.
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Post#18 » by hoophabit » Tue Jan 6, 2015 7:40 pm

Indeed, there is great rejoicing!

It's been fun seeing the Pistons look like a team again. They couldn't seem to help one another for quite a while, but suddenly they're doing a pretty good job of it. Hope they keep up the unselfish play.
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Post#19 » by pistonsfan00 » Tue Jan 6, 2015 9:37 pm

Jennings I think is the obvious guy who has benefited the most.
Also, Jerebko, Joel Anthony, and the newly acquired Anthony Tolliver have all greatly benefited getting extra minutes and allowing us to stretch the floor more.
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Re: Player who has benefited most from Josh Smith departure? 

Post#20 » by theBigLip » Tue Jan 6, 2015 10:07 pm

I would like to say Monroe for totally selfish reasons. I would hope he likes playing better rather than having to defer to Smith. I'm not sure how good the odds are of us signing him to an extension, but I'm sure they got a little better when Josh got waived, maybe even better now that we are starting to win.

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