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Re: Gt: Pistons (7-1) v Brooklyn Nets (16-20) 7:30 PM ET 

Post#281 » by Neptune » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:59 am

The Pistons and Patriots won, that's what I call a good day. Shout out to my young guy Jennings for that double-double tonight. Moose played up to his potential tonight too. Lets make these playoffs man!

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Neptune wrote:Well at least the Pistons played with some heart tonight, I respect that.
SVG and his cup-cake body

They've played with heart for the last eight games so this shouldn't be a surprise. And what does Stan's body have to do with anything?

Give up the charade; you're not a Pistons fan.

@Manocad: From our last game
Lol, lol! SVG's body has nothing to do with anything, I was just joking. Do you have a cup-cake body?

Of course I'm a Piston fan, but to be honest I'm a hard critic of SVG's offensive game-plan. That 4-out/1-in offense and shooting 3's all game is bogus. It's cool throughout the regular season and it's entertaining, but that offense never won championships.
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Post#282 » by Canadafan » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:06 am

whitehops wrote:Missed the game today, glad we won though.

We have a day off for some much needed rest and then play the raps on Monday and they've really been struggling. I'll be at te game so my expectations are high!

Me too. Represent the D! Lol
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Post#283 » by mattao313 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:08 am

Neptune wrote:The Pistons and Patriots won, that's what I call a good day. Shout out to my young guy Jennings for that double-double tonight. Moose played up to his potential tonight too. Lets make these playoffs man!

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Neptune wrote:Well at least the Pistons played with some heart tonight, I respect that.
SVG and his cup-cake body

They've played with heart for the last eight games so this shouldn't be a surprise. And what does Stan's body have to do with anything?

Give up the charade; you're not a Pistons fan.

@Manocad: From our last game
Lol, lol! SVG's body has nothing to do with anything, I was just joking. Do you have a cup-cake body?

Of course I'm a Piston fan, but to be honest I'm a hard critic of SVG's offensive game-plan. That 4-out/1-in offense and shooting 3's all game is bogus. It's cool throughout the regular season and it's entertaining, but that offense never won championships.

Spurs won last year and they shot a ton of threes.
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Post#284 » by Neptune » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:34 am

mattao313 wrote:Spurs won last year and they shot a ton of threes.

Who else besides Green and Belinelli are consistently shooting 3's on the Spurs? Diaw and Ginobli shoot a couple of 3's per game, but most of time they go to the basket. The Spurs win because of good defense and sharing the ball.
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Post#285 » by Finn McCool » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:38 am

mattao313 wrote:
Neptune wrote:The Pistons and Patriots won, that's what I call a good day. Shout out to my young guy Jennings for that double-double tonight. Moose played up to his potential tonight too. Lets make these playoffs man!

Manocad wrote:They've played with heart for the last eight games so this shouldn't be a surprise. And what does Stan's body have to do with anything?

Give up the charade; you're not a Pistons fan.

@Manocad: From our last game
Lol, lol! SVG's body has nothing to do with anything, I was just joking. Do you have a cup-cake body?

Of course I'm a Piston fan, but to be honest I'm a hard critic of SVG's offensive game-plan. That 4-out/1-in offense and shooting 3's all game is bogus. It's cool throughout the regular season and it's entertaining, but that offense never won championships.

Spurs won last year and they shot a ton of threes.


Maybe you should research that. Spurs and Heat were 15 and 16 dead center in the NBA... and as you know, both happened to meet in the Finals. Moderation is a good thing.
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Post#286 » by mercury » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:56 am

princeofpalace wrote:We will take Brooklyns playoff spot

I believe you're right... fully expecting them to trade their way out of contention before the deadline... Pistons are young & hungry fully capable of winning more games than the Nets... they're long on the teeth and close to blowing it up.
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Post#287 » by Jackattaq » Sun Jan 11, 2015 12:50 pm

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ImHeisenberg wrote:Ugly win, but I'll take it. We went from white hot shooting to ice cold as a team. Crazy.

Drummond being sick doesn't help either.


he had alot more energy than against atlanta, his conditioning was the problem. Good thing we have moose. My biggest concern is that we are suppose to be a inside out team, however these past 2 games we have been the opposite. We should let the post game dictate most of teh 3 point attempts, and transition three's


YES, YES, YES, that's it exactly. We all know that SVG brought in some of his type of players (Meeks, Caron, DJ) that can play and run what he want to run. We expect a fair amount of 3 pt shots. What was ridiculous wasn't the number of 3 pointers it was the 3 pters that they took. Too many of them were NOT FROM INSIDE-OUTSIDE play. Too many were from quick shots. Too many from an absence of getting the ball to Greg or Andre and making the defense react before they took the shots. There were just too many "bad" 3 pointers (esp vs ATL) over the past 2 games. I just don't want the team to forget to use one of its strength which are the Twin Towers in the paint. Keep those two guys fed and happy, keeping them involved offensively often yields positive results on the defensive end as well.

BTW: did anyone else notice how involved Greg Monroe was on defense last night? His hands were everywhere and he was much more active and involved on both ends of the court. I wonder if it was the sting of that loss to ATL and he wanted to get that next win or if he was just going after it to stay involved after getting shut out of the offense when the guards were jacking up all those 3's? Anyways, it was nice to see Monroe stay active and as someone else pointed out, he's been really going after it on the glass too. Hope to continue to see this version of Monroe and hope he wants to re-sign and can see a bright future here.
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Post#288 » by Lucidity » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:36 pm

mattao313 wrote:
Neptune wrote:The Pistons and Patriots won, that's what I call a good day. Shout out to my young guy Jennings for that double-double tonight. Moose played up to his potential tonight too. Lets make these playoffs man!

Manocad wrote:They've played with heart for the last eight games so this shouldn't be a surprise. And what does Stan's body have to do with anything?

Give up the charade; you're not a Pistons fan.

@Manocad: From our last game
Lol, lol! SVG's body has nothing to do with anything, I was just joking. Do you have a cup-cake body?

Of course I'm a Piston fan, but to be honest I'm a hard critic of SVG's offensive game-plan. That 4-out/1-in offense and shooting 3's all game is bogus. It's cool throughout the regular season and it's entertaining, but that offense never won championships.

Spurs won last year and they shot a ton of threes.


The Spurs still ran through Duncan at crucial times, always have. Playoff wins & titles are won via getting easy baskets in the half court. Luckily we have 2 options, 1 being a top tier option to get us those buckets.
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Post#289 » by Lucidity » Sun Jan 11, 2015 1:39 pm

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ImHeisenberg wrote:Ugly win, but I'll take it. We went from white hot shooting to ice cold as a team. Crazy.

Drummond being sick doesn't help either.


he had alot more energy than against atlanta, his conditioning was the problem. Good thing we have moose. My biggest concern is that we are suppose to be a inside out team, however these past 2 games we have been the opposite. We should let the post game dictate most of teh 3 point attempts, and transition three's


This, its something thats very noticeable lately. We went completely away from Drummond reps which is a huge mistake & we havent let our post game dictate our wing shooting. I think these are 2 crucial areas that can make us really good.
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Post#290 » by princeofpalace » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:09 pm

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YES, YES, YES, that's it exactly. We all know that SVG brought in some of his type of players (Meeks, Caron, DJ) that can play and run what he want to run. We expect a fair amount of 3 pt shots. What was ridiculous wasn't the number of 3 pointers it was the 3 pters that they took. Too many of them were NOT FROM INSIDE-OUTSIDE play. Too many were from quick shots. Too many from an absence of getting the ball to Greg or Andre and making the defense react before they took the shots. There were just too many "bad" 3 pointers (esp vs ATL) over the past 2 games. I just don't want the team to forget to use one of its strength which are the Twin Towers in the paint. Keep those two guys fed and happy, keeping them involved offensively often yields positive results on the defensive end as well.

BTW: did anyone else notice how involved Greg Monroe was on defense last night? His hands were everywhere and he was much more active and involved on both ends of the court. I wonder if it was the sting of that loss to ATL and he wanted to get that next win or if he was just going after it to stay involved after getting shut out of the offense when the guards were jacking up all those 3's? Anyways, it was nice to see Monroe stay active and as someone else pointed out, he's been really going after it on the glass too. Hope to continue to see this version of Monroe and hope he wants to re-sign and can see a bright future here.


Greg has been very active defensively and has looked good on that side of the ball. He can't anchor the paint, but his defense is underrated IMO. Lets not forget that it was Greg who had 2 steals in the 3rd Q of the ATL game, which helped us get out into transition for easy buckets and it was Greg who knocked the ball away from Hibbert at the end of the ATL game to give us an additional possession to try to win the game.

Monroe has been great and we'd be better served giving him more touches on offense and playing inside- out. Hopefully SVG can our perimeter players to play with more discipline.

Our future is bright with Drumroe!
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Post#291 » by Manocad » Sun Jan 11, 2015 2:34 pm

Neptune wrote:@Manocad: From our last game
Lol, lol! SVG's body has nothing to do with anything, I was just joking. Do you have a cup-cake body?

Not at all. The point is that it's totally irrelevant yet you feel the need to make a criticism. It's like you're searching for any little thing possible to criticize the team for. In regard to SVG's offense, the Pistons are now 8-1 since "your boy" was waived, beat some very good teams and lost by 3 to the best team in the east by record. Now that sounds to me like Stan knows what he's doing.
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Post#292 » by dVs33 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 4:44 pm

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whitehops wrote:Missed the game today, glad we won though.

We have a day off for some much needed rest and then play the raps on Monday and they've really been struggling. I'll be at te game so my expectations are high!

Me too. Represent the D! Lol


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Post#293 » by hoophabit » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:21 pm

I can't really disagree with the observations in general. That the inside out game should be foundation of the team makes perfect sense, but as SVG noted last night, the Nets game was a little different. I'll grant you the Hawks pretty effectively disrupted the plan. Stan commented on not having a problem with the shot selection against the Nets as they were sagging into the paint and giving up outside shots. If you're getting the shots you're looking for from the inside out game anyway, what exactly is the problem other than just shooting poorly? Analysing this at this point as some ominous trend just seems a little like "looking for trouble" to me. None of this is to say that getting an appropriate number of touches for our bigs shouldn't be a priority. Despite winning 8 of 9, the Pistons are working under a changed dynamic. I expect that both the team and the coach are working through that, and that additional refinement is planned.

Pretty much everyone who plays big minutes is tired finishing a 4 in 5 stretch. Put a respiratory illness on top of it and you'd expect some struggle. However, do we really need to go Drummond's conditioning? I'll grant that this was an issue his rookie season. Maybe I'm just an optimist, but the fact that despite feeling under the weather he tells the coach he's good to go cheers me. Really, he had one truly bad game. Last night would be a really good night for most, just not for Andre. If this drags on, I'll get concerned. Sure, I hope and expect that AD will become stronger and better conditioned as his career progresses, but massive bigs generally need to have their minutes managed more than guards and such anyway. Is he really so gifted that he can put the numbers he does while being out of shape?
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Post#294 » by need4detroit » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:24 pm

I agree, Andre's fine. Nothing to worry about there.
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Post#295 » by Minas » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:43 pm

hoophabit wrote:I can't really disagree with the observations in general. That the inside out game should be foundation of the team makes perfect sense, but as SVG noted last night, the Nets game was a little different. I'll grant you the Hawks pretty effectively disrupted the plan. Stan commented on not having a problem with the shot selection against the Nets as they were sagging into the paint and giving up outside shots. If you're getting the shots you're looking for from the inside out game anyway, what exactly is the problem other than just shooting poorly? Analysing this at this point as some ominous trend just seems a little like "looking for trouble" to me. None of this is to say that getting an appropriate number of touches for our bigs shouldn't be a priority. Despite winning 8 of 9, the Pistons are working under a changed dynamic. I expect that both the team and the coach are working through that, and that additional refinement is planned.

Pretty much everyone who plays big minutes is tired finishing a 4 in 5 stretch. Put a respiratory illness on top of it and you'd expect some struggle. However, do we really need to go Drummond's conditioning? I'll grant that this was an issue his rookie season. Maybe I'm just an optimist, but the fact that despite feeling under the weather he tells the coach he's good to go cheers me. Really, he had one truly bad game. Last night would be a really good night for most, just not for Andre. If this drags on, I'll get concerned. Sure, I hope and expect that AD will become stronger and better conditioned as his career progresses, but massive bigs generally need to have their minutes managed more than guards and such anyway. Is he really so gifted that he can put the numbers he does while being out of shape?


Apparently Dre had a head cold, which would explain why he was so terrible in the Hawks game
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Post#296 » by triplet1984 » Sun Jan 11, 2015 11:52 pm

Good win. This is exactly the kind of game we would've lost a few weeks ago. Good teams win games like this. Shot isn't falling. 4 games in 5 nights. Drummond sick. These guys are impressive.
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Post#297 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:20 am

Jackattaq wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:
ImHeisenberg wrote:Ugly win, but I'll take it. We went from white hot shooting to ice cold as a team. Crazy.

Drummond being sick doesn't help either.


he had alot more energy than against atlanta, his conditioning was the problem. Good thing we have moose. My biggest concern is that we are suppose to be a inside out team, however these past 2 games we have been the opposite. We should let the post game dictate most of teh 3 point attempts, and transition three's


YES, YES, YES, that's it exactly. We all know that SVG brought in some of his type of players (Meeks, Caron, DJ) that can play and run what he want to run. We expect a fair amount of 3 pt shots. What was ridiculous wasn't the number of 3 pointers it was the 3 pters that they took. Too many of them were NOT FROM INSIDE-OUTSIDE play. Too many were from quick shots. Too many from an absence of getting the ball to Greg or Andre and making the defense react before they took the shots. There were just too many "bad" 3 pointers (esp vs ATL) over the past 2 games. I just don't want the team to forget to use one of its strength which are the Twin Towers in the paint. Keep those two guys fed and happy, keeping them involved offensively often yields positive results on the defensive end as well.

BTW: did anyone else notice how involved Greg Monroe was on defense last night? His hands were everywhere and he was much more active and involved on both ends of the court. I wonder if it was the sting of that loss to ATL and he wanted to get that next win or if he was just going after it to stay involved after getting shut out of the offense when the guards were jacking up all those 3's? Anyways, it was nice to see Monroe stay active and as someone else pointed out, he's been really going after it on the glass too. Hope to continue to see this version of Monroe and hope he wants to re-sign and can see a bright future here.


The thing that upsets me is that moose has been capable of this the whole time, however never put much effort. Do i want to pay a guy that on his contract year starts trying!? Monroe also needs to start shooting the ball, he's a lot better than he thinks.
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Post#298 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:23 am

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ImHeisenberg wrote:Ugly win, but I'll take it. We went from white hot shooting to ice cold as a team. Crazy.

Drummond being sick doesn't help either.


he had alot more energy than against atlanta, his conditioning was the problem. Good thing we have moose. My biggest concern is that we are suppose to be a inside out team, however these past 2 games we have been the opposite. We should let the post game dictate most of teh 3 point attempts, and transition three's


This, its something thats very noticeable lately. We went completely away from Drummond reps which is a huge mistake & we havent let our post game dictate our wing shooting. I think these are 2 crucial areas that can make us really good.


Another noticable thing is our guards stop trying to get in the lane and finish as much. i am sure fatigue had something to do with it. When our guards get penetration, particularly when we go 4-1, it forces help side and defensive rotation, once that happens there is a time frame in which we have a open shooter. This was a large part of our streak. Something truly underrated that SVG forces DJ and Brandon to do.
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Post#299 » by ComboGuardCity » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:14 am

Four games in 5 Nights will make your guards shoot more jumpers IMO.


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Post#300 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:51 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:Four games in 5 Nights will make your guards shoot more jumpers IMO.


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good point, which is concerning considering playoff schedule brutal. Hopefully their shots are falling at that point

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