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Re: The Pistons Streak has transformed our board 

Post#61 » by Manocad » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:19 pm

fekz wrote:Love the board traffic, not liking the negative people who've run from the board in bad times but not want to come back and preach doom and gloom and "reality". Let's enjoy this run and see where it goes!

There's nothing wrong in not posting much in the bad times because there isn't much to post about. I watched almost every Pistons game for years, and would be willing to bet that I've attended as many games over the years as anyone on this board unless we've got some season ticket holders here (which I don't think we do). I just don't have much interest in spending a whole game thread posting "that sucked," "stupid play," "stop shooting, Josh, ya dumbass."

Team boards have always been that way. When things are good there's always a lot more traffic than when things look pretty hopeless.
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Re: The Pistons Streak has transformed our board 

Post#62 » by hoophabit » Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:42 pm

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fekz wrote:Love the board traffic, not liking the negative people who've run from the board in bad times but not want to come back and preach doom and gloom and "reality". Let's enjoy this run and see where it goes!

There's nothing wrong in not posting much in the bad times because there isn't much to post about. I watched almost every Pistons game for years, and would be willing to bet that I've attended as many games over the years as anyone on this board unless we've got some season ticket holders here (which I don't think we do). I just don't have much interest in spending a whole game thread posting "that sucked," "stupid play," "stop shooting, Josh, ya dumbass."

Team boards have always been that way. When things are good there's always a lot more traffic than when things look pretty hopeless.


You're absolutely right. However, I also get where fekz is coming from as well. Sure, it's harder to follow the team when things are really bad, but no one is compelled to make the kind of posts you remark upon during the bad times anymore than they need to litter a game thread with posts consisting solely of "OMG!," etc. during the good. It is a tiny bit galling to have posters reappear during the best of times to advise us not to get too high on success (you think?). While I believe we should welcome any and all true fans, the people who stick it out through thick and thin and engage in meaningful conversation garner more respect from me (you know who you are).
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Re: The Pistons Streak has transformed our board 

Post#63 » by roc » Sun Jan 11, 2015 6:04 pm

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fekz wrote:Love the board traffic, not liking the negative people who've run from the board in bad times but not want to come back and preach doom and gloom and "reality". Let's enjoy this run and see where it goes!

There's nothing wrong in not posting much in the bad times because there isn't much to post about. I watched almost every Pistons game for years, and would be willing to bet that I've attended as many games over the years as anyone on this board unless we've got some season ticket holders here (which I don't think we do). I just don't have much interest in spending a whole game thread posting "that sucked," "stupid play," "stop shooting, Josh, ya dumbass."

Team boards have always been that way. When things are good there's always a lot more traffic than when things look pretty hopeless.

Agreed

There are also real life issues that kick our ass at times. Sickness, deaths, moving cross country, surgery, etc can all contribute to prolonged absences.

It may be easier to assume something and rant about it but it is always better to take a moment and contemplate other possibilites before jumping the proverbial gun.
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Re: The Pistons Streak has transformed our board 

Post#64 » by Blkbrd671 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 12:37 am

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You're absolutely right. However, I also get where fekz is coming from as well. Sure, it's harder to follow the team when things are really bad, but no one is compelled to make the kind of posts you remark upon during the bad times anymore than they need to litter a game thread with posts consisting solely of "OMG!," etc. during the good. It is a tiny bit galling to have posters reappear during the best of times to advise us not to get too high on success (you think?). While I believe we should welcome any and all true fans, the people who stick it out through thick and thin and engage in meaningful conversation garner more respect from me (you know who you are).



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Post#65 » by Laimbeer » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:00 am

I'm glad we're actually rooting for them to win rather than lose.

I understand better draft position, but all the tank commander threads and rooting for the other team just made the place unreadable at times.
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Post#66 » by whitehops » Mon Jan 12, 2015 5:11 am

Laimbeer wrote:I'm glad we're actually rooting for them to win rather than lose.

I understand better draft position, but all the tank commander threads and rooting for the other team just made the place unreadable at times.


I agree on both fronts. i'm a fan of the Vikings and even when they were eliminated from the playoffs this year I wanted them to win every game. winning culture > tanking. to the people that cry about being a 'treadmill' team, how many teams in the last while 'succeeded' through tanking? the thunder are the best example and they literally hit gold on four consecutive draft picks. the odds of doing that are microscopic and if you fail you can set a franchise back for a while. tanking provides hope for a while but like 99% of the time is ends in bitter disappointment.

there are few coaches in the league that can win consistently with an overall lack of talent and I truly believe we have one. SVG has made brilliant moves with the control he has over personnel and his coaching resume speaks for itself. the fact that our team is playing at such a high level since getting rid of smith shows how good a job SVG was doing coaching this team, even if it was hard to see before. it's not like the players learned to play this way overnight, they have been taught to play this way all year and it just wouldn't translate when smith had the ball so much of the time.

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Post#67 » by Pharaoh » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:35 am

I'm happy I returned when we still sucked lol

I didn't bail on the team for 5 years though - I posted for at least another season or 2 elsewhere after the Malice fiasco...had a season of rarely posting, came back to that website for a while then returned here slowly.

Not sure where all these other people came from but that's my story
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Re: The Pistons Streak has transformed our board 

Post#68 » by Lionlifer » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:00 pm

I'd be curious to see how many are like me, lurking during the bad times cause I have nothing to say, more active when we win. Also most my thoughts during down time would get me banned, another reason to not post :)

Now that I've moved out of the murder mitten, I really think Detroit fans are crazy loyal. Lots of bad times for us, 0-16, Teal Era, the Tigers for years and years, and we all stick around for the most part. I'm in Vegas now, and I swear I see people switch teams weekly at the sports bars I go to. I get lots of comments when I wear out my Detroit gear, mostly people saying they are glad my teams are improving after all the nonsense we put up with.

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Post#69 » by fekz » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:28 pm

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fekz wrote:Love the board traffic, not liking the negative people who've run from the board in bad times but not want to come back and preach doom and gloom and "reality". Let's enjoy this run and see where it goes!

There's nothing wrong in not posting much in the bad times because there isn't much to post about. I watched almost every Pistons game for years, and would be willing to bet that I've attended as many games over the years as anyone on this board unless we've got some season ticket holders here (which I don't think we do). I just don't have much interest in spending a whole game thread posting "that sucked," "stupid play," "stop shooting, Josh, ya dumbass."

Team boards have always been that way. When things are good there's always a lot more traffic than when things look pretty hopeless.


That's not what I said. I said I wasn't fond of the negative mentality from people who drifted away from the board in tough times, who are now coming back to piss in our cheerios while we're having a great run. I never said I wasn't fond of people coming back.

We don't quite yet know if this pace is even moderately sustainable. What we do know is it's been very fun and that we should all hope to continue (some semblance) of it.
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Re: The Pistons Streak has transformed our board 

Post#70 » by Manocad » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:09 pm

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Manocad wrote:
fekz wrote:Love the board traffic, not liking the negative people who've run from the board in bad times but not want to come back and preach doom and gloom and "reality". Let's enjoy this run and see where it goes!

There's nothing wrong in not posting much in the bad times because there isn't much to post about. I watched almost every Pistons game for years, and would be willing to bet that I've attended as many games over the years as anyone on this board unless we've got some season ticket holders here (which I don't think we do). I just don't have much interest in spending a whole game thread posting "that sucked," "stupid play," "stop shooting, Josh, ya dumbass."

Team boards have always been that way. When things are good there's always a lot more traffic than when things look pretty hopeless.


That's not what I said. I said I wasn't fond of the negative mentality from people who drifted away from the board in tough times, who are now coming back to piss in our cheerios while we're having a great run. I never said I wasn't fond of people coming back.

We don't quite yet know if this pace is even moderately sustainable. What we do know is it's been very fun and that we should all hope to continue (some semblance) of it.

An internet forum isn't about "Hey, let's all get together and agree with each other all the time." Hoping it continues and believing it will are two different concepts. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion that it won't last based on someone's personal analysis of the team; that's not "pissing in your Cheerios." Obviously we're all Pistons fans and want to see the team succeed, but there's no crime in thinking that a hot streak may be exactly that--an isolated hot streak. Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether it's popular or not. This board has been full of differing opinions that were debated all the time and we all got along.
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Post#71 » by fekz » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:25 pm

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fekz wrote:
Manocad wrote:There's nothing wrong in not posting much in the bad times because there isn't much to post about. I watched almost every Pistons game for years, and would be willing to bet that I've attended as many games over the years as anyone on this board unless we've got some season ticket holders here (which I don't think we do). I just don't have much interest in spending a whole game thread posting "that sucked," "stupid play," "stop shooting, Josh, ya dumbass."

Team boards have always been that way. When things are good there's always a lot more traffic than when things look pretty hopeless.


That's not what I said. I said I wasn't fond of the negative mentality from people who drifted away from the board in tough times, who are now coming back to piss in our cheerios while we're having a great run. I never said I wasn't fond of people coming back.

We don't quite yet know if this pace is even moderately sustainable. What we do know is it's been very fun and that we should all hope to continue (some semblance) of it.

An internet forum isn't about "Hey, let's all get together and agree with each other all the time." Hoping it continues and believing it will are two different concepts. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion that it won't last based on someone's personal analysis of the team; that's not "pissing in your Cheerios." Obviously we're all Pistons fans and want to see the team succeed, but there's no crime in thinking that a hot streak may be exactly that--an isolated hot streak. Everyone is entitled to their opinion whether it's popular or not. This board has been full of differing opinions that were debated all the time and we all got along.



You're absolutely right, and I'm entitled to my opinion that I didn't like the negative perspective, just as you said you weren't fond of the negative posting within the game threads. If people want to BE negative -- that's their prerogative. However, IN MY OPINION it would be nice to consider those who stuck it out through the trolls, spam accounts, losing streaks, bad contracts, etc by not immediately resuming from a hiatus for a negative outlook on a run where We've won in so many different ways.
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Post#72 » by Manocad » Mon Jan 12, 2015 8:35 pm

You misconstrued what I said. I never said I wasn't fond of the negative posting within game threads. I said I personally have no interest in posting in game threads when there's nothing good to post about, thus being much less active on the board in the bad times. Those are two completely different concepts.

I don't give a hoot if someone's opinion is different from mine. I may debate a point for sure, but I'll never say that I wish someone wouldn't post their opinion or that it bothers me when they do.
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Post#73 » by Grey » Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:48 pm

Manocad wrote:There's nothing wrong in not posting much in the bad times because there isn't much to post about.


That's been the case with me. I've been here since '02, but it's probably my 3rd post here in the last 5 years. I never stopped supporting or following the team. It's just that it's not much fun for me to discuss how bad they are. I'm not much of an armchair GM either, so I'm not good at discussing how to fix things.

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