THE DEBUT: DET VS WAS 3:30 pm EST

[DetroitSho]

As a point of comparison, the number of players scoring 29.8 ppg this year = 0.
2014 - Durant.
2013 - nobody
2012 - nobody
2011 - nobody
2010 - Durant

Stack was a heck of a scorer. RJ has a LONG way to go before he should be mentioned in that type of company.

He was an inefficient scorer (shot like 40%) on a bad team (32-50) which directly lead to the Pistons cleaning house, hiring Carlisle and blowing the team up in the offseason. Grant Hill for Ben Wallace, anyone? Bulk scoring is not impressive. Stackhouse was a durable player for the Pistons for a long time, but he's not some phenom that no player can live up to.

There's so much wrong with this post. Your Pistons history is off.

[Liqourish]

As a point of comparison, the number of players scoring 29.8 ppg this year = 0.
2014 - Durant.
2013 - nobody
2012 - nobody
2011 - nobody
2010 - Durant

Stack was a heck of a scorer. RJ has a LONG way to go before he should be mentioned in that type of company.

He was an inefficient scorer (shot like 40%) on a bad team (32-50) which directly lead to the Pistons cleaning house, hiring Carlisle and blowing the team up in the offseason. Grant Hill for Ben Wallace, anyone? Bulk scoring is not impressive. Stackhouse was a durable player for the Pistons for a long time, but he's not some phenom that no player can live up to.

There's so much wrong with this post. Your Pistons history is off.

Oh Please, Sho me the err of my ways.

[Billl]

He was an inefficient scorer (shot like 40%) on a bad team (32-50) which directly lead to the Pistons cleaning house, hiring Carlisle and blowing the team up in the offseason. Grant Hill for Ben Wallace, anyone? Bulk scoring is not impressive. Stackhouse was a durable player for the Pistons for a long time, but he's not some phenom that no player can live up to.

There's so much wrong with this post. Your Pistons history is off.

Oh Please, Sho me the err of my ways.

From above:

And you are 100% wrong about pistons history. They traded Hill in for Ben after the 1999-2000 season. The Year Stack dropped 29.8 ppg was 2000-2001 the first year of the turnaround. The next year, stack led them to a 50-32 season as the leading scorer again.

[Liqourish]

There's so much wrong with this post. Your Pistons history is off.

Oh Please, Sho me the err of my ways.

From above:

And you are 100% wrong about pistons history. They traded Hill in for Ben after the 1999-2000 season. The Year Stack dropped 29.8 ppg was 2000-2001 the first year of the turnaround. The next year, stack led them to a 50-32 season as the leading scorer again.

Stackhouse led that team to the playoffs?

[DetroitSho]

He was an inefficient scorer (shot like 40%) on a bad team (32-50) which directly lead to the Pistons cleaning house, hiring Carlisle and blowing the team up in the offseason. Grant Hill for Ben Wallace, anyone? Bulk scoring is not impressive. Stackhouse was a durable player for the Pistons for a long time, but he's not some phenom that no player can live up to.

There's so much wrong with this post. Your Pistons history is off.

Oh Please, Sho me the err of my ways.

The fact that you thought Stackhouse put up 30 points a game on the same team as Grant Hill is facepalm worthy.

[Liqourish]

Oh Please, Sho me the err of my ways.

From above:

And you are 100% wrong about pistons history. They traded Hill in for Ben after the 1999-2000 season. The Year Stack dropped 29.8 ppg was 2000-2001 the first year of the turnaround. The next year, stack led them to a 50-32 season as the leading scorer again.

Edit:

Sorry, this deserves more than a one line answer.

Re-reading what I typed, I can understand your confusion, but let me clarify. The bulk stats/no wins type of team is why the Pistons blew it up and went in another direction.Stackhouse averaged 29 ppg on 24 fga per game, while shooting poorly. Grant Hill was gone so who was he going to give up shots for? Lindsay Hunter? Joe Smith? Ben Wallace? let's not forget, his defense was horrible as well.

They fired George Irvine and hired Rick Carlisle to change the culture. They played better defense, but their offense still struggled. Stackhouse still led the team in scoring, but his efficiency was even worse than the year before, but like 2001, who was he going to pass to? Uncle Cliffy, Corliss, and.... Bulk stats weren't getting the job done.

So they traded Stack to Washington for Rip, signed Billups, and drafted Tayshaun. Their offense became more balanced. Their defense improved. BBIQ was higher. Individual scoring was down, but they were a better team. Bulk stats for individual players RARELY lead to success, unless they are surrounded by a balanced team, which the Pistons were not.

You can't look at 29 ppg and claim that Stackhouse is untouchable. He was a chucker.

[Shady_]

Oh Please, Sho me the err of my ways.

From above:

And you are 100% wrong about pistons history. They traded Hill in for Ben after the 1999-2000 season. The Year Stack dropped 29.8 ppg was 2000-2001 the first year of the turnaround. The next year, stack led them to a 50-32 season as the leading scorer again.

Stackhouse led that team to the playoffs?

he was a pretty good player for us, back in the day

i remember being mad when we traded him for Richard Hamilton cause i had no idea who Richard Hamilton was but anyways it worked out for us

its a shame that Jerry Stackhouse and Chucky Atkins never got a ring with us

[Liqourish]

There's so much wrong with this post. Your Pistons history is off.

Oh Please, Sho me the err of my ways.

The fact that you thought Stackhouse put up 30 points a game on the same team as Grant Hill is facepalm worthy.

Never said that, but I understand why you thought that.

[kurtis48239]

What happend to the quality of posters around here.Seems like some posters 2nd and 3rd accounts are about to get banned.

[Cowology]

Stack was an inefficient shooter, but one of the best in the league at getting to line where he was efficient. And when we asked him to shoot less in order to help the team grow he did that as well.

He was flawed and had a fondness for dribbling the ball off his leg at crucial moments, but he played his ass off, did what we asked him to and was great in the community. Nothing but love for Stack.

[Liqourish]

Stack was an inefficient shooter, but one of the best in the league at getting to line where he was efficient. And when we asked him to shoot less in order to help the team grow he did that as well.

He was flawed and had a fondness for dribbling the ball off his leg at crucial moments, but he played his ass off, did what we asked him to and was great in the community. Nothing but love for Stack.

I respect his longevity, but I think nostalgia rewrites what actually occurred. Any post season success by Reggie will have him surpass Stackhouse, as far as I'm concerned.

[zeebneeb]

Stack was an inefficient shooter, but one of the best in the league at getting to line where he was efficient. And when we asked him to shoot less in order to help the team grow he did that as well.

He was flawed and had a fondness for dribbling the ball off his leg at crucial moments, but he played his ass off, did what we asked him to and was great in the community. Nothing but love for Stack.

Ball off the leg/shoe/toe you name it. What's bizzaro is still, to this day when me and my bro watch a game, and someone dribbles the ball off themselves out of bounds, we call it a Stackhouse. I loved em when he was here, but that is, and always will be the lasting memory of him, mostly because he always did it at the worst time.

Got another one for you. When someone's in the game for a ton of minutes, and doesn't get alot of rebounds at the C/PF spot, it's a cliffy, because of that one playoff game where he played 38 minutes and had exactly 0 rebounds. Cliff was a stretch 4 before they called it that, but perhaps the worst rebounding big man ever on the Pistons.

[DetroitSho]

Stack was an inefficient shooter, but one of the best in the league at getting to line where he was efficient. And when we asked him to shoot less in order to help the team grow he did that as well.

He was flawed and had a fondness for dribbling the ball off his leg at crucial moments, but he played his ass off, did what we asked him to and was great in the community. Nothing but love for Stack.

Ball off the leg/shoe/toe you name it. What's bizzaro is still, to this day when me and my bro watch a game, and someone dribbles the ball off themselves out of bounds, we call it a Stackhouse. I loved em when he was here, but that is, and always will be the lasting memory of him, mostly because he always did it at the worst time.

Got another one for you. When someone's in the game for a ton of minutes, and doesn't get alot of rebounds at the C/PF spot, it's a cliffy, because of that one playoff game where he played 38 minutes and had exactly 0 rebounds. Cliff was a stretch 4 before they called it that, but perhaps the worst rebounding big man ever on the Pistons.

Not only the dribble off the leg, but don't forget the constant stepping out of bounds from the sideline on the dribble drive take off.

[joedumars1]

I remember Stacks last game for us, I believe it was the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs vs Bostons game 5 or 6, he banked a three for the game winnger or tie, but he didn't beat the buzzer. That is my last memory of stack, I guess when he scored the most points ever in the United Center too.

[Pharaoh]

Good to see some love for Stackhouse.

[BadMofoPimp]

I was a big Stack fan and sad to see him go at the time. I knew of Rip, but didn't think he was as good at the time.