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Greg Monroe 2014-2015

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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#121 » by mercury » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:55 am

Not opposed to signing him with the purpose of a trade... just don't get stuck with an overpriced slow footed poor defender lacking motivation to earn more $.... If we needed a Center that would be a different story... I can relate to the need for a high end backup 5... bonus points for the other side of the story.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#122 » by sc8581 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:59 am

mercury wrote:Not opposed to signing him with the purpose of a trade... just don't get stuck with an overpriced slow footed poor defender lacking motivation to earn more $.... If we needed a Center that would be a different story... I can relate to the need for a high end backup 5... bonus points for the other side of the story.


We can't trick him into signing here and then trade him down the road
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#123 » by DBC10 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:59 am

sc8581 wrote:
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Meeks can create for himself, he's not a stud scorer but he's more than just a one trick pony.

If you can't trust anybody we sign you can't ever expect us to be a contender. Meeks could be an outstanding #2 or #3 option if we had a #1, Monroe could too but Jodi comes at a third of the price.


My point stands, there's hardly any out there to be had with 10 mil to spend.

The only way Meeks becomes the number #2 option let alone the #3 is when he goes back to the Lakers at the helm of Dantoni of yesteryear. Aka a bottom feeder team.


So you actually believe Meeks can be an #2. Then we're on complete different wavelengths toward everything then.

I don't think my point is broken either, there's no one worthwhile at 10 mil and under which isn't a unreasonable stance to hold either.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#124 » by sc8581 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:07 am

DBC10 wrote:
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My point stands, there's hardly any out there to be had with 10 mil to spend.

The only way Meeks becomes the number #2 option let alone the #3 is when he goes back to the Lakers at the helm of Dantoni of yesteryear. Aka a bottom feeder team.


So you actually believe Meeks can be an #2. Then we're on complete different wavelengths toward everything then.

I don't think my point is broken either, there's no one worthwhile at 10 mil and under which isn't a unreasonable stance to hold either.


#2 or #3 I said and hell yes I do, same goes for Monroe, difference being one is much cheaper and already locked up while the other doesn't fit and wants a ton of money.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#125 » by DBC10 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:09 am

sc8581 wrote:
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So you actually believe Meeks can be an #2. Then we're on complete different wavelengths toward everything then.

I don't think my point is broken either, there's no one worthwhile at 10 mil and under which isn't a unreasonable stance to hold either.


#2 or #3 I said and hell yes I do, same goes for Monroe, difference being one is much cheaper and already locked up while the other doesn't fit and wants a ton of money.


Well the difference is, one actually starts while the other has potential to be a great sixth man.

Plus, Meeks would have to start to be considered a #2 or #3. He doesn't, and for good reason.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#126 » by sc8581 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:14 am

DBC10 wrote:
sc8581 wrote:
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So you actually believe Meeks can be an #2. Then we're on complete different wavelengths toward everything then.

I don't think my point is broken either, there's no one worthwhile at 10 mil and under which isn't a unreasonable stance to hold either.


#2 or #3 I said and hell yes I do, same goes for Monroe, difference being one is much cheaper and already locked up while the other doesn't fit and wants a ton of money.


Well the difference is, one actually starts while the other has potential to be a great sixth man.

Plus, Meeks would have to start to be considered a #2 or #3. He doesn't, and for good reason.


He starts out of position and Meeks doesn't start because of KCPs defense and potential.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#127 » by DBC10 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:16 am

sc8581 wrote:
DBC10 wrote:
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#2 or #3 I said and hell yes I do, same goes for Monroe, difference being one is much cheaper and already locked up while the other doesn't fit and wants a ton of money.


Well the difference is, one actually starts while the other has potential to be a great sixth man.

Plus, Meeks would have to start to be considered a #2 or #3. He doesn't, and for good reason.


He starts out of position and Meeks doesn't start because of KCPs defense and potential.


And that's why Meeks would never be a #2 option. Because he can't start because of his defense. That's what kind of player you get with his kind of money. A one sided player with limited ceiling.

And I'm not even going to touch the Monroe thing again lol. The fit hoopla was dispelled when we literally gave every contender a run for their money before the trade deadline and pre-Jennings injury.

I'm done haha.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#128 » by sc8581 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:23 am

DBC10 wrote:
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Well the difference is, one actually starts while the other has potential to be a great sixth man.

Plus, Meeks would have to start to be considered a #2 or #3. He doesn't, and for good reason.


He starts out of position and Meeks doesn't start because of KCPs defense and potential.


And that's why Meeks would never be a #2 option. Because he can't start because of his defense. That's what kind of player you get with his kind of money. A one sided player with limited ceiling.

And I'm not even going to touch the Monroe thing again lol. The fit hoopla was dispelled when we literally gave every contender a run for their money before the trade deadline and pre-Jennings injury.

I'm done haha.


Meeks defense is not that bad, we just had to start somebody better because Jennings, Singler and Monroe were awful and it's not like SVG is going to bench KCP because of the trades.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#129 » by DaddyCool19 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:24 am

Would you guys sign and trade him for Ryan Anderson? Wouldn't that help both teams if the Pelicans lose Asik. You guys would have your stretch 4 who also isn't a good defender like Monroe and the Pelicans would get a guy they could pair with Davis.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#130 » by ImHeisenberg » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:39 am

Kaioken wrote:Would you guys sign and trade him for Ryan Anderson? Wouldn't that help both teams if the Pelicans lose Asik. You guys would have your stretch 4 who also isn't a good defender like Monroe and the Pelicans would get a guy they could pair with Davis.


If Monroe and New Orleans want to make a deal happen this summer, that would probably be Detroit's best outcome in a sign and trade situation. Anderson's best season came under SVG where I believe he won Most Improved. Obviously the injuries are a concern, but New Orleans players are injured so often, I question whether or not their training staff is just a pelican with a whistle around their neck.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#131 » by DaddyCool19 » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:45 am

ImHeisenberg wrote:
Kaioken wrote:Would you guys sign and trade him for Ryan Anderson? Wouldn't that help both teams if the Pelicans lose Asik. You guys would have your stretch 4 who also isn't a good defender like Monroe and the Pelicans would get a guy they could pair with Davis.


If Monroe and New Orleans want to make a deal happen this summer, that would probably be Detroit's best outcome in a sign and trade situation. Anderson's best season came under SVG where I believe he won Most Improved. Obviously the injuries are a concern, but New Orleans players are injured so often, I question whether or not their training staff is just a pelican with a whistle around their neck.


He is an expiring next season. If he still can't play +70 games you guys just could let his contract expire and try to sign another PF in 2016 with the salary cap going up.
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Re: Greg Monroe 2014-2015 

Post#132 » by jakebernat » Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:55 am

Kaioken wrote:Would you guys sign and trade him for Ryan Anderson? Wouldn't that help both teams if the Pelicans lose Asik. You guys would have your stretch 4 who also isn't a good defender like Monroe and the Pelicans would get a guy they could pair with Davis.

i'd rather just renounce monroe and go after tobias harris or draymond green. anderson would be nice, but the dude just can't stay healthy, and i'm not sure our defense could survive with he and drummond manning the paint. our offense would definitely improve though.

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