Will Dre become a Superstar?

[treefi]

I see 15-20ppg, 13-16rpg, 1-2apg, 1-2spg, 1-2bpg from Andre for at least the next 7 years.

[sc8581]

It's not about the numbers necessarily, it should be about his effect on the game. On defense he's a guy that has to be accounted for off of the ball if someone's thinking about getting to the hole. His one on one defense is still pathetic but he'll get better and with his rebounding that will make him a defensive superstar. Offensively he's certainly a force on the boards, on the break and against bad P&R defense but as someone mentioned he'll never be a guy that can get his own shot. All things considered though, if he's putting up 18-13-3 on a team that routinely makes deep playoff runs he will be considered a huge reason for that and with his personality he'll get superstar type coverage and we'll see him on sportscenter etc...

[Pistons888]

Nope. He doesn't have the burning desire to be a great.

It's funny because last season/going into this one I totally thought he did. It seemed like he was totally committed and was ready to take his game to the next step. I do like him and I think he has made some strides this year but you cannot deny that he has gotten a little cockier and his motor is questionable at times.

[sc8581]

Nope. He doesn't have the burning desire to be a great.

It's funny because last season/going into this one I totally thought he did. It seemed like he was totally committed and was ready to take his game to the next step. I do like him and I think he has made some strides this year but you cannot deny that he has gotten a little cockier and his motor is questionable at times.

I think some things can be attributed to him thinking more and trying to make the right play, definitely not all but some.

[mercury]

Without injuries... Yes

[kurtis48239]

Guys that I consider superstars: Durant, Westbrook, LeBron, Davis, Curry, Harden, Cousins, LMA

MVP-candidate level players. (Not so much Cousins, but that's because his supporting cast and FO isn't very good). If those guys stay healthy(other than Lebron who's a lock), they're HoF bound. To be completely honest I really have no idea if Dre will reach that level...his FT shooting limits his ability to close out games, and his defense isn't where I thought it would be at the end of year 3. Other than maybe Big Ben, I can't think of any superstar level big man that wasn't already an all star level player. Dwight put up 18/12/2 with great defense in year 3, and he came straight out of high school so he didn't have a year of college seasoning. KG was already a 19/10/4/2/2 guy with great defense. Duncan was a beast from the get go. I guess you could point to LMA, who only really elevated his game due to an increase in role after Roy's injuries, who was a better player at that time and still would be if he was still around.

It's definitely possible, but he's got plenty of work to do on both ends of the floor to get there.

My theroy on that,guys from that era and that played in more of a suburan league,relished shutting down the other guy on both sides,you wouldnt let the other guy get anything against you or you lost your braging right and were clowned by your competion/community.Now guys like dre who went somewhat private school didnt have that edge or competiveness and when your bigger than everyone,all your coach wants is for you to dominate on one side because your so much bigger than everyone.

[Lucidity]

Dre can easily be what Dwight Howard was, easily.

Like Shaq always says, bigs only need 1 go to move. Dre basically has that now, at age 21 lol.

[Laimbeer]

He's probably the third banana on a legitimate contender unless his offensive game blossoms and he stops being a bottom of the barrel, completely pathetic free throw shooter. Superstar's win close games. Bad free throw shooters are a liability at the end of close games. It's a paradox.

Which is why Wilt, Russell, and Shaq never became superstars.

[Lucidity]

He's probably the third banana on a legitimate contender unless his offensive game blossoms and he stops being a bottom of the barrel, completely pathetic free throw shooter. Superstar's win close games. Bad free throw shooters are a liability at the end of close games. It's a paradox.

Which is why Wilt, Russell, and Shaq never became superstars.

lol

[Redeemed]

Dre can be a force. He can influence the game significantly just by rebounding and defending. With his one go to move and his slowly growing understanding of what is required of him on defense he could be a star. Right now there are far too many incidences of inconsistent effort for me to say he can be a superstar.

The physical potential is there, I just question the intangibles (drive, maturity, and IQ). Dre is an improved version of DeAndre Jordan (with a go to move). That being said, if Dre commits to SVG's system he should be a significantly better player in the coming seasons.

ON OFFENSE: I would love to see the kid take the time to gather himself and go up with power, as opposed to flipping up some weak crap that gets swatted. Dre needs to take up Blake Griffin's mentality or better yet, Shaq's mentality and crush everyone when he gets the ball down low. Spend some time picking Shaq's brain.

ON DEFENSE: Learn how to defend the post. Study team defensive concepts and become a better paint protector. Give intelligent effort at all times. Watch film on Ben Wallace.

ON THE GLASS: Grab everything, not just your own missed shots. Watch film on Dennis Rodman rebounding (not the other crap).

[ImHeisenberg]

He's probably the third banana on a legitimate contender unless his offensive game blossoms and he stops being a bottom of the barrel, completely pathetic free throw shooter. Superstar's win close games. Bad free throw shooters are a liability at the end of close games. It's a paradox.

Which is why Wilt, Russell, and Shaq never became superstars.

The idea that you're even comparing Drummond in that same group is pretty ridiculous. Outside of their free throw shooting- which was still better than Drummond's- they were all offensive forces of nature. Drummond averages 13 points per game.

[zeebneeb]

In the running for league MVP in as little as two years.

[MrBigShot]

He's probably the third banana on a legitimate contender unless his offensive game blossoms and he stops being a bottom of the barrel, completely pathetic free throw shooter. Superstar's win close games. Bad free throw shooters are a liability at the end of close games. It's a paradox.

Which is why Wilt, Russell, and Shaq never became superstars.

The idea that you're even comparing Drummond in that same group is pretty ridiculous. Outside of their free throw shooting- which was still better than Drummond's- they were all offensive forces of nature. Drummond averages 13 points per game.

Bill Russell averaged 15ppg for his career, with his best year at 19ppg on a team that scored more on average than any team does now (125ppg) which is about 15% of his teams points. Dre's 13.5ppg makes up around 14% of our total ppg...so really, as an offensive force Drummond is right up there with Russell.

Dre will never be as good as Russell defensively, but I think the point is that bad FT shooting wont necessarily prevent Drummond from becoming a superstar. He can dominate the game defensively, on the boards, and I don't see any reason why his post game wont continue to improve. Ben Wallace was absolutely a superstar at his peak, and he wasn't much better than Dre as a FT shooter. Part of me wants to try to resist being a homer, but then I see how effortless he's dropped 20/14 the past 5 games and can't hep but think that only lack of drive and work could keep him from becoming a superstar.

[ImHeisenberg]

Bill Russell averaged 15ppg for his career, with his best year at 19ppg on a team that scored more on average than any team does now (125ppg) which is about 15% of his teams points. Dre's 13.5ppg makes up around 14% of our total ppg...so really, as an offensive force Drummond is right up there with Russell.

Dre will never be as good as Russell defensively, but I think the point is that bad FT shooting wont necessarily prevent Drummond from becoming a superstar. He can dominate the game defensively, on the boards, and I don't see any reason why his post game wont continue to improve. Ben Wallace was absolutely a superstar at his peak, and he wasn't much better than Dre as a FT shooter. Part of me wants to try to resist being a homer, but then I see how effortless he's dropped 20/14 the past 5 games and can't hep but think that only lack of drive and work could keep him from becoming a superstar.

I hope you're right.

But, he still has a long way to go before he's considered great on either side of the ball.

[epheisey]

When I think of superstars, I think of players that can win games by themselves, carry their team through a quarter or half where no one else can get going. I don't ever see Drummond reaching that level. He's Robin. On his own, he's not gonna do much. But give him a Batman, and watch out.

[mattao313]

When I think of superstars, I think of players that can win games by themselves, carry their team through a quarter or half where no one else can get going. I don't ever see Drummond reaching that level. He's Robin. On his own, he's not gonna do much. But give him a Batman, and watch out.

Robin turned into Nightwing tho...

[roc]

When I think of superstars, I think of players that can win games by themselves, carry their team through a quarter or half where no one else can get going. I don't ever see Drummond reaching that level. He's Robin. On his own, he's not gonna do much. But give him a Batman, and watch out.

Robin turned into Nightwing tho...

and then Batman.

[joedumars1]

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