The Small Forwards in Question

[kurtis48239]

I would take Hezonja over Winslow and Johnson. Hezonja already is a good shooter and has the most upside in my opinion. Winslow can be a difference maker on the defensive end, but at just 6-6 with a 6-10 wingsspan his defensiv potential is limited at least at SF. He won't be able to use his strength to get easy buckets in the NBA. Johnson doesn't have a specific skill where he is great at, good allrounder.

I see winslow more as a sg with spot minutes at sf,hes basicly the same height and only 14 pounds on kcp.Johnson might only be 1 inch taller but he has the body to bang against legit sf in the league.

[detroitKG]

I've been with Johnson since the beginning and nothing I've seen or heard has lead me to a change of heart..even if Winslow is there. It would be quite ironic if we had all this SF talk, just to have SVG take a Turner or a Kaminskey lol

[Blkbrd671]

I would take Hezonja over Winslow and Johnson. Hezonja already is a good shooter and has the most upside in my opinion. Winslow can be a difference maker on the defensive end, but at just 6-6 with a 6-10 wingsspan his defensiv potential is limited at least at SF. He won't be able to use his strength to get easy buckets in the NBA. Johnson doesn't have a specific skill where he is great at, good allrounder.

Hez is probably the best 3 point shooter of the group , however defensively Hez lateral quickness is concerning. He needs to get stronger, and is game still needs to develop. I think he'll be one of the top rookies in 3pt % . I think Hez is the best prospect since Ginobli coming from Europe, but defensively he's better at the 2.

Winsolow and Johnson day 1 can help this team defensively. I am sure they'll go through growing pains, but once their technique is refined they'll probably become our best 3 defender. I do think Winslow will struggle more than Johnson or Hez to "figure it out" during his rookie year, however i do think Winslow will have the most impact. He's a impact player that plays with a high motor. ie he doesn't put up empty stats.

Johnson offensive game i think is the most mature and he brings a toughness on defense. The fact that he can carry that weight and be explosive encourages me that he can defend . That length is crazy. Honestly i'll be happy either way.

[Blkbrd671]

I've been with Johnson since the beginning and nothing I've seen or heard has lead me to a change of heart..even if Winslow is there. It would be quite ironic if we had all this SF talk, just to have SVG take a Turner or a Kaminskey lol

I think this board would explode and cause RealGm its first General Error because of Piston Board

[Notanoob]

No jumpshot is a non starter

I don't think that it should be. This guy has good vision and passing ability, excellent length and athleticism and intensity and instincts on defense that you just can't teach a guy. Adding a jump shot is possible, adding length and instincts is not. Leonard couldn't shoot either.

[need4detroit]

I've been with Johnson since the beginning and nothing I've seen or heard has lead me to a change of heart..even if Winslow is there. It would be quite ironic if we had all this SF talk, just to have SVG take a Turner or a Kaminskey lol

I will throw up.

[Blkbrd671]

No jumpshot is a non starter

I don't think that it should be. This guy has good vision and passing ability, excellent length and athleticism and intensity and instincts on defense that you just can't teach a guy. Adding a jump shot is possible, adding length and instincts is not. Leonard couldn't shoot either.

@8, jumpshot is a non starter. No ones arguing adding a jump shot is possible, what i am arguing is we aren't willing to wait 3-4 even 5 seasons for his shot to get average. Especially when other players @8 are more complete players

[Blkbrd671]

He plays with a brashness and high emotion that can get him into the game -- but also at times, get him off his game. He has been compared to Kobe Bryant because of his competitive nature. He hates to lose and he chastises teammates that he believes are not playing up to their potential – something Bryant is well known for doing.Yelling at teammates won't play on the Pistons team. It won't make them play harder and they would be more likely to turn on Hezonja.

Hezonja is an intriguing prospect, even with his flaws, because he is not just a shooter. He loves to attack the rim and dunk. He can throw no-look passes and bring down the house.The problem is when he is angry or agitated, Hezonja does none of that. He makes defensive errors and forces bad shots.One of Milicic's problems was he lost focus as he discovered the riches and traps of life in the United States. Let's hope Hezonja avoids those problems.

Anytime you mention

1.) Lockeroom issue
2.) Darko Milicic comparison , not in a good way

I think takes him out of contention for the pistons

[Pharaoh]

We're a completely different organization now so any Darko comparisons don't wash with me.

Locker room issues I'm big on though....I always take the Lakers view:

I'm paraphrasing but:

"If you don't wanna come here because our best player is only interested in winning and will push himself to an insane level, if that means you avoid us, sign elsewhere, tuck tail and run...then you're not the guy we want on this team"

****!

Weak as players can sign elsewhere! We wanna win, we're willing to work insanely hard in order to win! If that's not for you then don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you

[Blkbrd671]

We're a completely different organization now so any Darko comparisons don't wash with me.

Locker room issues I'm big on though....I always take the Lakers view:

I'm paraphrasing but:

"If you don't wanna come here because our best player is only interested in winning and will push himself to an insane level, if that means you avoid us, sign elsewhere, tuck tail and run...then you're not the guy we want on this team"

****!

Weak as players can sign elsewhere! We wanna win, we're willing to work insanely hard in order to win! If that's not for you then don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you

Ya um Kobe as great player as he is needs teammates that want to follow him. Chemistry like the Pistons that beat the lakers is far more important. We love Blue Collar players, but its come with work rather than their mouth.

[Redeemed]

I would take Hezonja over Winslow and Johnson. Hezonja already is a good shooter and has the most upside in my opinion. Winslow can be a difference maker on the defensive end, but at just 6-6 with a 6-10 wingsspan his defensiv potential is limited at least at SF. He won't be able to use his strength to get easy buckets in the NBA. Johnson doesn't have a specific skill where he is great at, good allrounder.

Winslow's measurements are at worst comparable to Jimmy Butler's and Jimmy has managed to guard 2's and 3's on a consistent basis. I would also add, Winslow at 6'6" 222lbs has the strength to cover the three not to mention the athleticism to do it as well.

I can't speak on Hezonja in terms of his ability to play. He must be a baller (or he has an incredible hype machine) based on the way he's climbing the mock draft rankings. He does seem a little light for a 3 at 200lbs. I can only assume he would mainly stick with playing the 2.

[Pharaoh]

We're a completely different organization now so any Darko comparisons don't wash with me.

Locker room issues I'm big on though....I always take the Lakers view:

I'm paraphrasing but:

"If you don't wanna come here because our best player is only interested in winning and will push himself to an insane level, if that means you avoid us, sign elsewhere, tuck tail and run...then you're not the guy we want on this team"

****!

Weak as players can sign elsewhere! We wanna win, we're willing to work insanely hard in order to win ! If that's not for you then don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you

Ya um Kobe as great player as he is needs teammates that want to follow him. Chemistry like the Pistons that beat the lakers is far more important. We love Blue Collar players, but its come with work rather than their mouth.

Bolded for your enjoyment!

Nowhere in my post did I say I want a dude that talks a lot of shite! Nowhere!

[pollack419]

What do you guys think about DeMarre Carrol? last year 12 pts, 5 reb, 1.7 ast 1.3 stl almost 40% from 3pt shooing 5 a game. they say he may be getting 10 mil a year.

Then Then trade back with Boston 8 for 16 and oylnk draft frank the tank

Let Monroe walk resign RJ

RJ/ Jennings / Spence
KCP / Meeks
Carrol /Butler / 2nd rounder
Oylnk / Anothony
Dre / Frank /

[tmorgan]

8 for 16 and Olynyk is an overpay... and Frank isn't a center in the NBA. In fact, getting both Frank and Kelly O is a bad idea, because they do a lot of the same things. I also expect Kaminsky to go before 16th.

[coordinator0]

I would be surprised if Kaminsky fell that far too. He and Olynyk are somewhat comparable but I think Frank is quite a bit better offensively and has a lot more versatility on that end.

[Blkbrd671]

Spoiler:

We're a completely different organization now so any Darko comparisons don't wash with me.

Locker room issues I'm big on though....I always take the Lakers view:

I'm paraphrasing but:

"If you don't wanna come here because our best player is only interested in winning and will push himself to an insane level, if that means you avoid us, sign elsewhere, tuck tail and run...then you're not the guy we want on this team"

****!

Weak as players can sign elsewhere! We wanna win, we're willing to work insanely hard in order to win ! If that's not for you then don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you

Ya um Kobe as great player as he is needs teammates that want to follow him. Chemistry like the Pistons that beat the lakers is far more important. We love Blue Collar players, but its come with work rather than their mouth.

Bolded for your enjoyment!

Nowhere in my post did I say I want a dude that talks a lot of ****! Nowhere!

Not everythings about you Pharoh.

I am saying that at 19 he already has a rep of rubbing players the wrong way. Its not something to ignore. I don't think his Euro teammates don't liek him cuz he works too hard.