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The Final 18 players to trade or cut

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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#61 » by mattao313 » Mon Jul 13, 2015 6:34 pm

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thesack12 wrote:I personally see no incentive in scrapping Dinwiddie in favor of a guy like JL3. I mean if your 3rd PG is part of your regular rotation, you have problems anyways.

I would much rather have a young developmental guy with potential upside like Dinwiddie, over an aging fringe NBA player like JL3. If Dinwiddie doesn't pan out, you aren't out anything. Its not like Detroit is a good enough team to be augmenting the end of the roster with old vets. The end of the roster should have developmental guys like Dinwiddie and Quincy Miller.


You are right we do have a problem because as of now our third PG is our primary backup, who is going to start the year playing the half of the second and fourth qtrs until Jennings can play, which may not be til midseason.

And he wont just be some guy you can put in the corner and tell not to do anything wrong. He is going to have the ball the majority of the time orchestrating everything. Seeing him turn it over everywhere in SL, we cant have that for half the fourth qtr and expect to win for a team that doesnt have much margin for error. Lucas isnt ideal either but i think we do need to upgrade that spot however we can, and we have too many players on the roster to have both Dinwiddie and another vet PG so a decision may need to be made.

So you are basing this all on his SL play? Dinwiddie is not a high turnover player to be honest Reggie Jackson turns it over more, the knock on Spencer is his shooting but from his college stats he shouldn't be as bad as he was.
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#62 » by Kilo » Tue Jul 14, 2015 6:47 pm

Steve Blake will surely make the team given Stan Van Gundy traded for his $2.1M guaranteed contract so that means we're down to one open spot - a back-up 2/3 wing. The contenders -

Cartier Martin -
Pros - Guaranteed contract, was here last year, knows the system and the staff.
Cons - Seemed to fall out of favor a bit, didn't show much of anything when he was playing. 30 years old.

Danny Granger -
Pros - Once an all-star, wily vet, guaranteed contract.
Cons - Hasn't played much in two years with a couple surgeries. Likely finished. 32 yo. Didn't even get a presser - shows SVG's feelings on him already? Can't play SG.

Adonis Thomas -
Pros - Played for GR Drive last season. 22 yo. Knows some of the players, lost weight to move from 3/4 to 2/3 as requested by staff.
Cons - Was a 3/4, with emphasis more on PF last few years to try and find his NBA niche as a stretch four. No contract, only camp try out deal so easy to cut without any money hit.

Reggie Bullock -
Pros - Legit 3&D potential. 3 point shot his calling card out of the draft, showed still had it in D-League last season. Good size to play both SF and SG. 24 yo. Guaranteed contract.
Cons - Hasn't shown much when he has got any playing time.

I think it will come down to Martin vs Bullock. Granger is out because of his health and he can't play the 2-guard. Given four PG's this roster spot needs to to to a player who can back-up both SG and SF. I think Thomas is ultimately out because he's only on a camp invite - unless he blows the rest away Stan's not going to eat a near $2M guaranteed contract to keep him around.
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#63 » by El Chivo » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:10 pm

To me Bullock, no brainer.
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Post#64 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:42 pm

^^ Bullock is a no-brainer to be cut? Or a no-brainer to make the team?
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#65 » by El Chivo » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:49 pm

To make the team!
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#66 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jul 14, 2015 9:00 pm

I think it's gonna be a battle, but I agree.

I don't see it as a no-brainer though
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#67 » by kellmellus50 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:28 am

This would probably be my preferred roster right now

PG_Jackson / Jennings - Blake-Dinwiddie
SG-KCP / Meeks -, HIlliard
SF-Morris / Johnson - Bullock
PF-Ilyasova / Tolliver
C-Drummond / Baynes - Anthony
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#68 » by Kilo » Wed Jul 15, 2015 1:52 pm

13 man active roster is easy enough as well - Hilliard in the D-League with the GR Drive and Steve Blake in street clothes (Jennings could start the season not dressing depending on his health).
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#69 » by Southern Piston » Wed Jul 15, 2015 2:01 pm

I bet we trade Meeks , cut Granger, and let Hilliard go to Europe for a year.
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#70 » by kellmellus50 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:21 am

Second-round pick Darrun Hilliard, Reggie Bullock and Cartier Martin are all fighting for a spot. Danny Granger is still a candidate to be released, Van Gundy didn't rule out the veteran being on the roster.
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#71 » by El Chivo » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:15 pm

can we be 15 plus Hilliard employed in d-league or 15 including the rookie?
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#72 » by dVs33 » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:22 pm

El Chivo wrote:can we be 15 plus Hilliard employed in d-league or 15 including the rookie?


Nah, even if hilliard stays in the D-league all year, he's on an NBA deal which counts as a roster spot.
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Re: The Final 17 players to trade or cut 

Post#73 » by tmorgan » Tue Jul 21, 2015 6:36 pm

Hilliard's on the roster. SVG gave him a guaranteed deal when he didn't have to.

Granger's gone, Thomas is gone after camp (maybe next year), and Martin's likely gone because he sucked last year. Bullock stays, as most have said.

Hilliard in the D-League, and one PG not active.
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Re: The Final 18 players to trade or cut 

Post#74 » by kellmellus50 » Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:56 am

Adonis Thomas,Pistons keep on adding to the roster looks to me a trade is coming 3 for 1 or 2 for 1 soon.
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Re: The Final 18 players to trade or cut 

Post#75 » by El Chivo » Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:10 pm

I want to give a chance to Reggie Bullock!!!
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