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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#201 » by kurtis48239 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:18 pm

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MiltownHawkeye wrote:That didn't answer my question...

Come on,shafted us?.You guys didnt even know what you had in middleton at the time,not to mention wasant it stan that seeked your team out for the trade??Obviously you cant really count knight because you let him go for a terrible pg in mcw.I would also say that jennings was the better player than middleton befor he went down,not to mention if we didnt trade chris,then we dont draft johson.So I dont see any shafting :D
Is the Stan you and Brapman referring to SVG? He wasn't the one who trade for Jennings

Either way,we saught them out.
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Post#202 » by joedumars1 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:26 pm

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kurtis48239 wrote:Come on,shafted us?.You guys didnt even know what you had in middleton at the time,not to mention wasant it stan that seeked your team out for the trade??Obviously you cant really count knight because you let him go for a terrible pg in mcw.I would also say that jennings was the better player than middleton befor he went down,not to mention if we didnt trade chris,then we dont draft johson.So I dont see any shafting :D
Is the Stan you and Brapman referring to SVG? He wasn't the one who trade for Jennings

Either way,we saught them out.
True, but we can't put that trade on SVG. It would make his resume look worse. I didn't mind the trade at the time and still don't. Having Middleton would be nice, but if we don't have SJ then i'm not to happy, lol.
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#203 » by kurtis48239 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:32 pm

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joedumars1 wrote: Is the Stan you and Brapman referring to SVG? He wasn't the one who trade for Jennings

Either way,we saught them out.
True, but we can't put that trade on SVG. It would make his resume look worse. I didn't mind the trade at the time and still don't. Having Middleton would be nice, but if we don't have SJ then i'm not to happy, lol.

Yea,thats why I snuck in that question mark lol.So I guess in a way we should thank the bucks fans and dumars,or we probably dont take johnson.I also know some fans are going to say its to premature to label him anything,but if you have eyes,then you know that kid is going to be special.
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#204 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:55 pm

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MiltownHawkeye wrote:What? Why would we hate a team for shafting them in a trade?


just let it go shady, they obviously care

That didn't answer my question...


idk, honestly i thought milwakee made out like bandits, however after discussing BK with a Milwakee troll, it seems it was a even trade.

Knight according to you guys made your team worse, while Jennings flourished under SVG and made our team better . Middleton's a nice piece but again according to you guys, you over paid. So i'd say we about even.
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#205 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:00 pm

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Okay, since you have absolutely no understanding of the point I'm trying to make, let me dumb it down for you.


The point you were making was " My opinion is this and because i said it, its true". And you prove that point by thinking its "dumb" that you have to explain yourself.





Secondly, even if he was a fit, you do not overpay simply because someone fits. That would be like drafting someone too early because "they fit".


So whats your argument, they should overpay for someone who doesn't fit. What your continuously failing to realize is that no matter what, bucks will have to overpay. Sh* when MCW hits his extention and still can't hit 30% of his 3's, Milwakee will have to overpay. Whats the point?



You left out the elephant in the room which is that you have to pay the "all-star" 80 million and the other one you've got him for peanuts.


You left out the part where Philly , who's soul purpose is to find franchise players, traded away MCW . You also left out the part about why BK got paid 80 million, lets stop acting like he's some scrub not producing.

At this point i don't even know what we are arguing. If it makes you feel better to hear MCW trade was a good one, go to your own teams board and make your point there. Its literally a matter of opinion, and this board is for Detroit discussion. Please gtfo or start discussing something interesting/relevant to the Pistons


The point you were making was " My opinion is this and because i said it, its true". And you prove that point by thinking its "dumb" that you have to explain yourself.


What? I literally posted a bunch of stats to prove my point that signing Knight to an 80 million contract would be dumb. All I've got from you is a bunch of (false) talking points and ad-hominems.

What your continuously failing to realize is that no matter what, bucks will have to overpay. Sh* when MCW hits his extention and still can't hit 30% of his 3's, Milwakee will have to overpay. Whats the point?


So now we HAVE to resign and overpay MCW. Got it. We can;t trade him or let him walk, eventually we'll just HAVE to overpay him.

You left out the part where Philly , who's soul purpose is to find franchise players, traded away MCW . You also left out the part about why BK got paid 80 million, lets stop acting like he's some scrub not producing.


They traded him for a pick that's likely going to be top 5, top 10 at least. What's your point? I just gave you a bunch of stats which you decided to ignore and argued, quite literally "he got paid 80M, therefore he's not a scrub". Maybe Phoenix blew 80M on a guy who puts up meaningless stats.

At this point i don't even know what we are arguing. If it makes you feel better to hear MCW trade was a good one, go to your own teams board and make your point there. Its literally a matter of opinion, and this board is for Detroit discussion. Please gtfo or start discussing something interesting/relevant to the Pistons


"Go away, you disagree with my opinion!"

Its literally a matter of opinion, and this board is for Detroit discussion


Then why was it a Pistons fan who brought up the Bucks in the first place, which spawned the discussion that I chimed in about?

And to add to it all, you go digging though my comments to find something that again, you got offended about because it doesn't align with your opinion, in an attempt to vilify me.


you elaborated after everyone basically shut you down , and then said its "dumb" that you have to explain yourself. Like your opinion is fact, which it clearly is not. I don't know what to say to convince you that Milwakee isn't that important to detroit, so please gtfo of our board. It was one preseason game, don't need to be all sour for losing
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#206 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:04 pm

kurtis48239 wrote:Come on,shafted us?.You guys didnt even know what you had in middleton at the time,not to mention wasant it stan that seeked your team out for the trade??Obviously you cant really count knight because you let him go for a terrible pg in mcw.I would also say that jennings was the better player than middleton befor he went down,not to mention if we didnt trade chris,then we dont draft johson.So I dont see any shafting :D


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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#207 » by MiltownHawkeye » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:51 pm

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just let it go shady, they obviously care

That didn't answer my question...

Middleton's a nice piece but again according to you guys, you over paid. So i'd say we about even.


Who the hell is saying that?
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#208 » by Blkbrd671 » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:54 pm

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MiltownHawkeye wrote:That didn't answer my question...

Middleton's a nice piece but again according to you guys, you over paid. So i'd say we about even.


Who the hell is saying that?


being discussed on the Milwakee board where it should be
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#209 » by MiltownHawkeye » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:01 am

Blkbrd671 wrote:
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Blkbrd671 wrote:Middleton's a nice piece but again according to you guys, you over paid. So i'd say we about even.


Who the hell is saying that?


being discussed on the Milwakee board where it should be

Okay, well the people who aren't elated about the Middleton deal are a very tiny minority, so that's a weird spin to try to put on it.
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#210 » by Blkbrd671 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 12:07 am

MiltownHawkeye wrote:Okay, well the people who aren't elated about the Middleton deal are a very tiny minority, so that's a weird spin to try to put on it.



well i don't think its a small part of your fan base just looking at your board, there's clearly debate as to the contract value . again its a matter of opinion.
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Post#211 » by Buck Dweller » Wed Oct 14, 2015 2:48 am

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Blkbrd671 wrote:
The point you were making was " My opinion is this and because i said it, its true". And you prove that point by thinking its "dumb" that you have to explain yourself.







So whats your argument, they should overpay for someone who doesn't fit. What your continuously failing to realize is that no matter what, bucks will have to overpay. Sh* when MCW hits his extention and still can't hit 30% of his 3's, Milwakee will have to overpay. Whats the point?




You left out the part where Philly , who's soul purpose is to find franchise players, traded away MCW . You also left out the part about why BK got paid 80 million, lets stop acting like he's some scrub not producing.

At this point i don't even know what we are arguing. If it makes you feel better to hear MCW trade was a good one, go to your own teams board and make your point there. Its literally a matter of opinion, and this board is for Detroit discussion. Please gtfo or start discussing something interesting/relevant to the Pistons


The point you were making was " My opinion is this and because i said it, its true". And you prove that point by thinking its "dumb" that you have to explain yourself.


What? I literally posted a bunch of stats to prove my point that signing Knight to an 80 million contract would be dumb. All I've got from you is a bunch of (false) talking points and ad-hominems.

What your continuously failing to realize is that no matter what, bucks will have to overpay. Sh* when MCW hits his extention and still can't hit 30% of his 3's, Milwakee will have to overpay. Whats the point?


So now we HAVE to resign and overpay MCW. Got it. We can;t trade him or let him walk, eventually we'll just HAVE to overpay him.

You left out the part where Philly , who's soul purpose is to find franchise players, traded away MCW . You also left out the part about why BK got paid 80 million, lets stop acting like he's some scrub not producing.


They traded him for a pick that's likely going to be top 5, top 10 at least. What's your point? I just gave you a bunch of stats which you decided to ignore and argued, quite literally "he got paid 80M, therefore he's not a scrub". Maybe Phoenix blew 80M on a guy who puts up meaningless stats.

At this point i don't even know what we are arguing. If it makes you feel better to hear MCW trade was a good one, go to your own teams board and make your point there. Its literally a matter of opinion, and this board is for Detroit discussion. Please gtfo or start discussing something interesting/relevant to the Pistons


"Go away, you disagree with my opinion!"

Its literally a matter of opinion, and this board is for Detroit discussion


Then why was it a Pistons fan who brought up the Bucks in the first place, which spawned the discussion that I chimed in about?

And to add to it all, you go digging though my comments to find something that again, you got offended about because it doesn't align with your opinion, in an attempt to vilify me.

Last I checked this was the detroit board,were det fans come to discuss anything related to det ball.If iam not mistaken you came on our board and decided you didnt like what was being said.Nobody called you out or asked for your opinion,so dont get butt hurt because its not going your way.I love when other posters from other teams come on a board,disagree with the majority and then get upset,and then act like fans are out to get them.

Why not just admit that mcw sucks for your team,and that ANY other scoring pg with vision would be better?


Uhh, thats not at all what happened. I chimed in on YOUR guys' discussion about the Bucks. Then some idiot countered with a bunch of straw mans, ad hominems and basically told me to get out because he didn't like my opinion.

And because you can't read, I'll put this out there for now the third time, I'M NOT ARGUING ANYTHING ABOUT MCW. I AGREE THAT HE IS BAD. THIS DISCUSSION WAS SOLELY ABOUT KNIGHT AND IF WE SHOULD'VE PAID HIM $80M.
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#212 » by MiltownHawkeye » Wed Oct 14, 2015 3:06 am

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MiltownHawkeye wrote:Okay, well the people who aren't elated about the Middleton deal are a very tiny minority, so that's a weird spin to try to put on it.



well i don't think its a small part of your fan base just looking at your board, there's clearly debate as to the contract value . again its a matter of opinion.

So again, who are these people?
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Post#213 » by Blkbrd671 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:47 am

MiltownHawkeye wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:
MiltownHawkeye wrote:Okay, well the people who aren't elated about the Middleton deal are a very tiny minority, so that's a weird spin to try to put on it.



well i don't think its a small part of your fan base just looking at your board, there's clearly debate as to the contract value . again its a matter of opinion.

So again, who are these people?


sorry i don't spend enough time on other teams boards to care about this discussion. Just know its there. No longer discussing this non-piston matter. feel free to complain on milwakee board
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#214 » by kurtis48239 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 6:32 am

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What? I literally posted a bunch of stats to prove my point that signing Knight to an 80 million contract would be dumb. All I've got from you is a bunch of (false) talking points and ad-hominems.



So now we HAVE to resign and overpay MCW. Got it. We can;t trade him or let him walk, eventually we'll just HAVE to overpay him.



They traded him for a pick that's likely going to be top 5, top 10 at least. What's your point? I just gave you a bunch of stats which you decided to ignore and argued, quite literally "he got paid 80M, therefore he's not a scrub". Maybe Phoenix blew 80M on a guy who puts up meaningless stats.



"Go away, you disagree with my opinion!"



Then why was it a Pistons fan who brought up the Bucks in the first place, which spawned the discussion that I chimed in about?

And to add to it all, you go digging though my comments to find something that again, you got offended about because it doesn't align with your opinion, in an attempt to vilify me.

Last I checked this was the detroit board,were det fans come to discuss anything related to det ball.If iam not mistaken you came on our board and decided you didnt like what was being said.Nobody called you out or asked for your opinion,so dont get butt hurt because its not going your way.I love when other posters from other teams come on a board,disagree with the majority and then get upset,and then act like fans are out to get them.

Why not just admit that mcw sucks for your team,and that ANY other scoring pg with vision would be better?


Uhh, thats not at all what happened. I chimed in on YOUR guys' discussion about the Bucks. Then some idiot countered with a bunch of straw mans, ad hominems and basically told me to get out because he didn't like my opinion.

And because you can't read, I'll put this out there for now the third time, I'M NOT ARGUING ANYTHING ABOUT MCW. I AGREE THAT HE IS BAD. THIS DISCUSSION WAS SOLELY ABOUT KNIGHT AND IF WE SHOULD'VE PAID HIM $80M.

You wonder why no one here is taking you posts seriously.I dont think anyone around here really cares..so why dont you go back to your board and annoy the hell outta them.
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#215 » by MiltownHawkeye » Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:45 am

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well i don't think its a small part of your fan base just looking at your board, there's clearly debate as to the contract value . again its a matter of opinion.

So again, who are these people?


sorry i don't spend enough time on other teams boards to care about this discussion. Just know its there. No longer discussing this non-piston matter. feel free to complain on milwakee board

Thanks for confirming that you were talking out of your ass.
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Re: Pistons@Bucks 8:30pmET PRESEASON GAME 3 

Post#216 » by Blkbrd671 » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:55 pm

MiltownHawkeye wrote:
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MiltownHawkeye wrote:So again, who are these people?


sorry i don't spend enough time on other teams boards to care about this discussion. Just know its there. No longer discussing this non-piston matter. feel free to complain on milwakee board

Thanks for confirming that you were talking out of your ass.


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