Game 10: Detroit Pistons (5-4) Vs. Los Angeles Lakers (1-8) 9:30PM

[Arp590]

Me and several others mentioned 5+ games ago that our ISO-Ball wasn't going to keep working every game, that Reggie needed to do a better job at getting others involved. We were yelled at for bashing on Reggie but now look where we are..

except that RJ has got them involved they jsut missed shots. Also i believe ISO-Ball is the wrong term. The pick and roll involves 2 players , which isn't iso ball. And the PNR is essentially our offense. What doesn't work is our chemistry in the PNR between our PG and Center. How many oops have they had!?

Sorry, our "PNR" turns into ISO-Ball.. because Reggie doesn't make his move fast enough or even attempt to get the ball to Dre.. the ball ends up going to 1 player for an ISO attempt.

Also you're referring to the Laker's game where we missed shots.. i'm talking about every game where Reggie constantly misses Dre or doesn't even target him.. making the PNR not very threatening at all.

[Blkbrd671]

You can't only criticize a team when they're losing, you have to look at how they're winning and what can be improved upon to ensure that we keep winning.

don't understand this comment. Don't recall anyone not critizing our team even when we were winning. Our offense has never been good, our shooting has never been good, our PNR and bench has never been good. This is not a relvalation. The problem is that posters are blaming everything on RJ, which is granted but not entirely accurate. Pistons team = 5 players.

Many people defending players when we had criticism for them, not an issue because we're winning apparently.. Everyone is jumping in here criticizing the team when they started to lose. Me and some others were criticizing the team while we were winning because we didn't like way we were winning and knew it wasn't sustainable.

It's called not being satisfied. Like I said, you take your wins and you focus on what you can improve on, instead of just being a cheerleader because we're winning.

again as i stated in my last post. You and whom ever your referring too weren't in the minority in terms of critizing the pistons when they were winning. Your making it seem as if your the only one that saw the flaws, and that's simply not true. What was critized was what was being critizied or the ideas of how to fix it.

[Blkbrd671]

Me and several others mentioned 5+ games ago that our ISO-Ball wasn't going to keep working every game, that Reggie needed to do a better job at getting others involved. We were yelled at for bashing on Reggie but now look where we are..

except that RJ has got them involved they jsut missed shots. Also i believe ISO-Ball is the wrong term. The pick and roll involves 2 players , which isn't iso ball. And the PNR is essentially our offense. What doesn't work is our chemistry in the PNR between our PG and Center. How many oops have they had!?

Sorry, our "PNR" turns into ISO-Ball.. because Reggie doesn't make his move fast enough or even attempt to get the ball to Dre.. the ball ends up going to 1 player for an ISO attempt.

Also you're referring to the Laker's game where we missed shots.. i'm talking about every game where Reggie constantly misses Dre or doesn't even target him.. making the PNR not very threatening at all.

honestly bud, watch film. Your critizing RJ for taking what the defense is giving him, which SVG hasn't had a problem with. Some of you want RJ to toss the ball up to a covered Dre which is a injury or TO waiting to happen.

[Arp590]

don't understand this comment. Don't recall anyone not critizing our team even when we were winning. Our offense has never been good, our shooting has never been good, our PNR and bench has never been good. This is not a relvalation. The problem is that posters are blaming everything on RJ, which is granted but not entirely accurate. Pistons team = 5 players.

Many people defending players when we had criticism for them, not an issue because we're winning apparently.. Everyone is jumping in here criticizing the team when they started to lose. Me and some others were criticizing the team while we were winning because we didn't like way we were winning and knew it wasn't sustainable.

It's called not being satisfied. Like I said, you take your wins and you focus on what you can improve on, instead of just being a cheerleader because we're winning.

again as i stated in my last post. You and whom ever your referring too weren't in the minority in terms of critizing the pistons when they were winning. Your making it seem as if your the only one that saw the flaws, and that's simply not true. What was critized was what was being critizied or the ideas of how to fix it.

I'm not saying that, there were just a select few that saw nothing wrong in the way Reggie was playing. Sure he made some shots in the 4th quarter to win us games, but he can't do that every game.

[Arp590]

except that RJ has got them involved they jsut missed shots. Also i believe ISO-Ball is the wrong term. The pick and roll involves 2 players , which isn't iso ball. And the PNR is essentially our offense. What doesn't work is our chemistry in the PNR between our PG and Center. How many oops have they had!?

Sorry, our "PNR" turns into ISO-Ball.. because Reggie doesn't make his move fast enough or even attempt to get the ball to Dre.. the ball ends up going to 1 player for an ISO attempt.

Also you're referring to the Laker's game where we missed shots.. i'm talking about every game where Reggie constantly misses Dre or doesn't even target him.. making the PNR not very threatening at all.

honestly bud, watch film. Your critizing RJ for taking what the defense is giving him, which SVG hasn't had a problem with. Some of you want RJ to toss the ball up to a covered Dre which is a injury or TO waiting to happen.

Exactly, the defense is giving him nothing because he doesn't even use the Pick correctly half the time. He makes no attempt to feed Dre on the roll, and i'm not just talking about lobs.

Here is the sequence..
Dre sets pick
Reggie stands at top of key and waits after the pick is set..
Reggie drives slowly.. prodding
Reggie is either going to: A. Go for a layup OR B. attempt to swing the ball to the perimeter
What does the defense have to do in that situation?? NOTHING. Stay home on your shooter and just guard Reggie on his way to the basket.

It's that simple.. because Dre is only a threat to get the offensive rebound on the PNR, no one has to help off their man.

Now if Reggie made his move quicker instead of standing still at the top after the pick is set.. there might be some better options because you're forcing the defense to react quicker and not allowing them to pretty much just ignore the pick that Dre sets for Reggie.