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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#41 » by DetPistons04 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:13 am

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kurtis48239 wrote:He is making a legit arguement who the better player between him and davis will be.As of now it looks like davis could go the way of being an injured player right on the verge if his body dosent hold up.Even if davis ends up that player,I would love if these players now a days would take wining over an extra 5-10 million.Could you imagine if dre/davis shared our front court.

I really cant wait to see what stan has up his sleve to bring in a pf who can hit shots and play defense,add jennings meeks coming back,we are going to look fierce next season.

On my 2K16 my league.. Drummond and Anthony Davis both play for the Pistons (not sure what year I'm in).. traded for him with his last year of his contract with Pelicans.. :D

Reggie jackson
Devin Booker
Stanley johnson
Anthony Davis
Andre Drummond

year like 2019 i think :lol:


lol... That's a tough starting 5 you've got there
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#42 » by Todd3 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 4:54 am

DETermination wrote:Do you guys think Drummond's amazing play this season gives him a better chance at making team USA next year?


With Popovich coaching and his pick and roll heavy system, it would be hard to see him not wanting the best pick and roll C on his team.

It would be the perfect offseason program for Dre at this point in his career to get a whole summer of Popovich coaching him and honing his fundamentals.
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#43 » by Han Solo » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:07 am

Drummond is a lock for Team USA, especially with Cousins playing a lot of 4 this year and stretching his game out.
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#44 » by MrBigShot » Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:17 am

I don't think he'll ever be better than Isiah. But nonetheless yes, if he Drummond plays like has the past 11 games consistently, he is a superstar. Key word consistency, he has to do it over the course of the entire season before other people and the media will 100% recognize him as a superstar.
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#45 » by zeebneeb » Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:19 am

MrBigShot wrote:I don't think he'll ever be better than Isiah. But nonetheless yes, if he Drummond plays like has the past 11 games consistently, he is a superstar. Key word consistency, he has to do it over the course of the entire season before other people and the media will 100% recognize him as a superstar.
Eh that's way to early to tell. Drummond is 22.

Besides that if Drummond brings titles to Detroit while putting up these numbers he will absolutely pass Isiah. I don't even think it's a question and this is coming from someone who loved everything about isiah even his nasty streak. Guy was a beast.

Drummond is on track to put himself (hell he already has) in the conversation with nba legends and royalty.

Players like him don't come around but once a generation. BUT he still has to keep it up.
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#46 » by joedumars1 » Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:48 am

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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#47 » by Snakebites » Thu Nov 19, 2015 2:32 pm

Why are we comparing Isiah to Drummond....

That's like comparing a fully ripe apple to an orange that isn't even ripe yet...
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#48 » by hoophabit » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:51 pm

joedumars1 wrote:http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2015/11/19/andre-drummond-best-center-espn/76035000/


This guys knows


"Drummond's game still has a few holes, so it's easy to dwell on those and overlook his immense production," writes Doolittle. "Stan Van Gundy reshaped the Pistons to accentuate Drummond's burgeoning talent at a good time. At 23, his rebounding rivals that of a peak Moses Malone."

Imagine how impressed he'd be if he realized that Drummond will play this entire year as a 22 year old? :wink:
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#49 » by Defor » Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:15 pm

Looking back on our last 4 or 5 draft picks, I agreed with most of them , I'd give myself a pat on the back, except the one pick I definitely didn't want was Drummond . I thought he had bust written all over him , all I can say now is I'm damn glad I'm not Joe Dumars. Go Andre !
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#50 » by MrBigShot » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:51 pm

The risk of Dre at 9 was practically non-existent relative to the potential payoff and who else we were missing out on. Quite frankly I thought he had virtually no chance to fall to us and still can't fathom how the Raps took TRoss ahead of him.

Snakebites wrote:Why are we comparing Isiah to Drummond....

That's like comparing a fully ripe apple to an orange that isn't even ripe yet...


Why compare Stanley Johnson to established players who are already in, entering, or past their prime like Pierce, Ron Artest and Jimmy Butler? Why compare any incoming rookies to established or retired players? Why allow comparisons between retired and yougn players in the player comparisons board? Speculation. It's a major aspect of what makes rooting for a team with young players exciting and a major part of basketball boards in general. Nobody is comparing those 2 right now, we're speaking in regards to what's to come. And for the record I don't find Zeeb's opinion to be unreasonable by any means.
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#51 » by Snakebites » Fri Nov 20, 2015 12:22 am

MrBigShot wrote:The risk of Dre at 9 was practically non-existent relative to the potential payoff and who else we were missing out on. Quite frankly I thought he had virtually no chance to fall to us and still can't fathom how the Raps took TRoss ahead of him.

Snakebites wrote:Why are we comparing Isiah to Drummond....

That's like comparing a fully ripe apple to an orange that isn't even ripe yet...


Why compare Stanley Johnson to established players who are already in, entering, or past their prime like Pierce, Ron Artest and Jimmy Butler? Why compare any incoming rookies to established or retired players? Why allow comparisons between retired and yougn players in the player comparisons board? Speculation. It's a major aspect of what makes rooting for a team with young players exciting and a major part of basketball boards in general. Nobody is comparing those 2 right now, we're speaking in regards to what's to come. And for the record I don't find Zeeb's opinion to be unreasonable by any means.


I think you might have missed my primary point.

At least if you're comparing Johnson to Pierce/Artest/Butler you're comparing perimeter wing players who might in theory have somewhat overlapping roles on a team.

To compare a center who is still developing to a point guard who does completely different things is pointless.
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#52 » by DetroitSho » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:19 am

Pretty sure the comparison isn't about Zeke's ability to rebound and block shots or Drummond's ability to run a team. Not sure what the big issue is comparing 2 players' places in Pistons history regardless of position.
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Re: Andre Drummond is a Superstar 

Post#53 » by MrBigShot » Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:49 am

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MrBigShot wrote:The risk of Dre at 9 was practically non-existent relative to the potential payoff and who else we were missing out on. Quite frankly I thought he had virtually no chance to fall to us and still can't fathom how the Raps took TRoss ahead of him.

Snakebites wrote:Why are we comparing Isiah to Drummond....

That's like comparing a fully ripe apple to an orange that isn't even ripe yet...


Why compare Stanley Johnson to established players who are already in, entering, or past their prime like Pierce, Ron Artest and Jimmy Butler? Why compare any incoming rookies to established or retired players? Why allow comparisons between retired and yougn players in the player comparisons board? Speculation. It's a major aspect of what makes rooting for a team with young players exciting and a major part of basketball boards in general. Nobody is comparing those 2 right now, we're speaking in regards to what's to come. And for the record I don't find Zeeb's opinion to be unreasonable by any means.


I think you might have missed my primary point.

At least if you're comparing Johnson to Pierce/Artest/Butler you're comparing perimeter wing players who might in theory have somewhat overlapping roles on a team.

To compare a center who is still developing to a point guard who does completely different things is pointless.


Not if you compare in terms of just pure talent/ability. It's the same as comparing a perimeter player like Magic or MJ to a bigman like Dirk or KG. Yes, they play completely different positions and have very different roles in their respective teams, but it's widely accepted that Magic and MJ are better than those two.
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