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I think if we go a long way in the first round of the Playoffs and we compete hard, he'll want to stay. If you ask me, I think the Pistons will be around the 6th seed rather than the 8th. I think we'rel still going to get better because we have young guys and the team grows throughout the season. Eventually teams start to separate as the schedule becomes more even. For example, Orlando is 3-10 against teams above 500. They're sitting at 19-16. That means 16 of those wins were against teams under 500? I just checked their schedule and it has been cake! That means Orlando is overrated and will soon drop under 500. I'm not sure what's going on with Charlotte. Maybe they're overrated too? I'm not sure why they're 500 right now. Maybe someone can explain. Basically if we go to the Playoffs, I hope it's not the 8th seed. I think we match up really with against Chicago.
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Unless there's a trade offer that SVG can't refuse for Jennings, we're likely to watch him stay and help us make a Playoff push.
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Unless KD signs here this summer, Jennings might be our big free agent signing. "Might": If he plays really well for us and shows he can play a decent amount (10?) with Jackson, I'll bet he'll want to stay and that we'll want him.
He can structure a deal with opt outs - totally protecting him by giving him a big (not max) long-term contract and flexibility to get an enormous contract in a couple years.
He's becoming wildly popular here. We're a team on the rise with great coaching. He's going to want to ride this out with us.
He can structure a deal with opt outs - totally protecting him by giving him a big (not max) long-term contract and flexibility to get an enormous contract in a couple years.
He's becoming wildly popular here. We're a team on the rise with great coaching. He's going to want to ride this out with us.
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Umm...folks casting dispersion at the idea of Jennings choosing to go to a sadsack team for a couple million more over possibly winning here - isn't that EXACTLY what Reggie Jackson did when he forced his way out of OKC when was offered $4yrs 48M to stay in the 6th man role - he left because he wanted his "own team" and to start, and got a couple million more here to boot - all while leaving powerhouse contender OKC for sadsack Detroit.
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See what kind of bargain did Charlotte with Lin... backup point guards are dime a dozen in this League. No need to overpay.
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Kilo wrote:Umm...folks casting dispersion at the idea of Jennings choosing to go to a sadsack team for a couple million more over possibly winning here - isn't that EXACTLY what Reggie Jackson did when he forced his way out of OKC when was offered $4yrs 48M to stay in the 6th man role - he left because he wanted his "own team" and to start, and got a couple million more here to boot.
A couple more million? WTF
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Pharaoh wrote:Kilo wrote:Umm...folks casting dispersion at the idea of Jennings choosing to go to a sadsack team for a couple million more over possibly winning here - isn't that EXACTLY what Reggie Jackson did when he forced his way out of OKC when was offered $4yrs 48M to stay in the 6th man role - he left because he wanted his "own team" and to start, and got a couple million more here to boot.
A couple more million? WTF
A season - Yeah. Just like folks who think Jennings will sign here for 9-10M leaving 12M on the table elsewhere. Or do you think folks are thinking Detroit will offer 10M and another team will offer him 10.5 to start and that's the money difference being referenced here. We're not offering Jennings 5 years.
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Kilo wrote:Umm...folks casting dispersion at the idea of Jennings choosing to go to a sadsack team for a couple million more over possibly winning here - isn't that EXACTLY what Reggie Jackson did when he forced his way out of OKC when was offered $4yrs 48M to stay in the 6th man role - he left because he wanted his "own team" and to start, and got a couple million more here to boot - all while leaving powerhouse contender OKC for sadsack Detroit.
Well, precisely. And I think it'll be more than a couple million. Its not like teams are short of cap space this summer. If Jennings is successful, which I'm confident he will be, then there will be teams willing to pay him what Reggie is getting right now. The Knicks and the Nets in particular. Does Detroit really want to use most of their cap space to retain their backup PG? I think Jennings is gone either way. He'll know his role and showcase himself. His value to Detroit will be giving their bench a starting quality PG and getting them better seeding for the playoffs, which is fine. When Steph Curry and Tyreke Evans were busy fighting for Rookie of the Year, it was Jennings who made the playoffs with the Bucks. He's been a starter his entire career, so even if he comes off the bench or Detroit, teams won't be doubting whether he can be a starter cause he's done it. This was not the case with Reggie. They'll just be evaluating him differently. Its just about health and how much other teams will pay him.
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CHI-TOR: Gibson/Bairstow for Scola/Johnson/Bennett/2016 Raps 1st
NOP-TOR: Anderson/Perkins for Scola/Johnson/Bennett/2016 Raps 1st
PHX-DET: Keef for Meeks, 2016 Det 1st
PHX-LAC: Tucker for Lance/Wilcox/2016 Nets 2nd
CHI-TOR: Gibson/Bairstow for Scola/Johnson/Bennett/2016 Raps 1st
NOP-TOR: Anderson/Perkins for Scola/Johnson/Bennett/2016 Raps 1st
PHX-DET: Keef for Meeks, 2016 Det 1st
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The argument here seems to be if Jennings is going to leave, we should deal him. Not sure I agree with that...I don't think we're going to get offered anything huge for a guy who is about to be a UFA coming off of a major injury. And I don't know if another team's scraps are worth giving up an opportunity to finish this season strong and make the playoffs which I think is important in instilling confidence in our core.
I mean say we deal him to the Knicks - they are direct competition for the playoffs. I don't know what advantage we have in doing that unless they make a really good offer. Which I doubt given they were negging him very recently in public.
I mean say we deal him to the Knicks - they are direct competition for the playoffs. I don't know what advantage we have in doing that unless they make a really good offer. Which I doubt given they were negging him very recently in public.
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I don't think we deal BJ because the return will be minimal...
and I don't think he re-signs here, either, despite the mutual love. Detroit made him a man, a grown-up, and he deserves money we can't afford to give him.
Next summer is going to be straight up CRAZY for free agency. If you think Reggie, Carroll, Kanter, etc. got paid LAST summer, wait until this next one.
BJ is getting at least 15 million a year in this market if he plays well the rest of the season. He's 27, can shoot, can distribute, and looks a little less like a disaster on defense. That's good enough.
and I don't think he re-signs here, either, despite the mutual love. Detroit made him a man, a grown-up, and he deserves money we can't afford to give him.
Next summer is going to be straight up CRAZY for free agency. If you think Reggie, Carroll, Kanter, etc. got paid LAST summer, wait until this next one.
BJ is getting at least 15 million a year in this market if he plays well the rest of the season. He's 27, can shoot, can distribute, and looks a little less like a disaster on defense. That's good enough.
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tmorgan wrote:I don't think we deal BJ because the return will be minimal...
and I don't think he re-signs here, either, despite the mutual love. Detroit made him a man, a grown-up, and he deserves money we can't afford to give him.
Next summer is going to be straight up CRAZY for free agency. If you think Reggie, Carroll, Kanter, etc. got paid LAST summer, wait until this next one.
BJ is getting at least 15 million a year in this market if he plays well the rest of the season. He's 27, can shoot, can distribute, and looks a little less like a disaster on defense. That's good enough.
This, He has more value to us in a playoff push then what team would be willing to give for him. He won't get traded but I also think some team is going to pay him big bucks in the offseason if he stays healthy.
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How well would Jennings have to play to steal not only the starting gig but the pgoft title as well? Does the answer have more to do with the market for Reggie?
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sc8581 wrote:How well would Jennings have to play to steal not only the starting gig but the pgoft title as well? Does the answer have more to do with the market for Reggie?
Not possible, because of Drummond. Reggie's game fits with Dre's perfectly, while Jennings' does not.
Also because I think it's possible to make Reggie a solid defender, and that's just not possible with Jennings. I love BJ's game, so entertaining, but he's not as good a fit here for at least these two reasons. Would be a great 6th man, but he'll want more than that.
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Watching Jennings >>>>> Watching Reggie (and I like watching Reggie)
I hope SVG accelerates the Jennings plan and starts playing him with Reggie a few minutes a game to see what happens. Reggie was strong off the ball at OKC - enough that they offered him $48 million. The quicker Stan tries it, the quicker the seed is planted in Jennings' head. Remember, Jennings had all that success Monday night against a 3rd string point guard who will be out of the league after his deal expires. It's not so easy against the top 20 pg's in the league.
I hope they throw big money at him in the offseason and keep him in a rotation with Reggie and KCP. If another team is dumb enough to offer more, then so be it.
I hope SVG accelerates the Jennings plan and starts playing him with Reggie a few minutes a game to see what happens. Reggie was strong off the ball at OKC - enough that they offered him $48 million. The quicker Stan tries it, the quicker the seed is planted in Jennings' head. Remember, Jennings had all that success Monday night against a 3rd string point guard who will be out of the league after his deal expires. It's not so easy against the top 20 pg's in the league.
I hope they throw big money at him in the offseason and keep him in a rotation with Reggie and KCP. If another team is dumb enough to offer more, then so be it.
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Who here would want to relocate for their job, have learn new people and responsibilities knowing that in 6 months you may have to do it again? I wouldn't want to be traded either.
Jennings has as good an opportunity to prove his value here as he would elsewhere. He knows the guys, has some understanding of the system and will get minutes.
He can also help contribute to a winning situation and prove he's a team player.
What happens in the offseason is a different matter entirely.
Jennings has as good an opportunity to prove his value here as he would elsewhere. He knows the guys, has some understanding of the system and will get minutes.
He can also help contribute to a winning situation and prove he's a team player.
What happens in the offseason is a different matter entirely.
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Reggies ability to get inside and finish is a far better strength especially considering he's elite at it then Jennings getting hot shooting. Reggie is the superior player although It does seem Jennings sees the floor better so far.