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20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings

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Re: 20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings 

Post#41 » by MrBigShot » Wed Jan 6, 2016 3:08 am

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Who is going to give him $13 million coming off an Achilles injury that had him sidelined for a full year? And of those teams, who has a better team than the Pistons?


Matthews got 17.5 mil per for 4 years before anyone even got a chance to see him play after his achilles injury, so it's possible. GMs will get to see Jennings for another 47 games so that's plenty of time to evaluate how close he'll get to returning to last year's form.

I definitely want to see Jennings stay and if he keeps playing like he did last night I would go as high as 13 mil per. That's worth it for a quality sixth man with the cap space rising. Love the fire and style he plays with, and he doesn't get enough recognition for his playmaking ability which can be top notch at times.


Wesley Matthews contract was different for a number of reasons.

1. It increased due to the fact that DeAndre Jordan backed out of the Mavs deal and returned to L.A. He was set to make $14 million per before that whole mess happened, as a starter for Dallas.

2. Matthews was a much more efficient scorer than Jennings pre-injury. Wesley in Portland pre-injury-.448/.389/.752- 60 starts. Jennings in Detroit pre-injury- .401/.360/.839- 41 starts. Being able to cut and land on a torn achilles is huge for a guard.

3. Matthews didn't need a full year off to recover. His injury wasn't as severe. He got injured in March and was ready to go for the start of the season. Jennings needed a full year away from the game, due to the damage.

4. Matthews was signed to be a starter in Dallas, not a 6th man. Jennings is now asked to be a sixth man in Detroit after signing Jackson to a $80 million contract. I don't expect Jennings to take a massive pay cut due to coming off the bench, but I don't think he'll see starter money unless he's overpaid by a poor team. Which I just don't see the options open for him.


What you've said is true, but the fact remains: Nobody got to see Wes play prior to signing him. GMs will have about ~60% or so of a full season to evaluate Jennings. What sounds like a more risky gamble to you? Matthews easily. Achilles injury or not, what type of contract offers he gets will really come down to whether or not he can play well/stay healthy. He's reliant on speed/quickness, and to honest it's still early but the way he was moving yesterday I never would've been able to tell he was injured.

Im not necessarily say he will take a larger offer from a bad team to start over a lesser offer from us to be 6th man for us, but I am saying it wouldn't shock me. It may be a moot point anyway, because if SVG values him as much as I think he does I think he'll give him an offer where he can get the best of both worlds...getting paid big and still playing a lot of minutes.
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Re: 20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings 

Post#42 » by Darko Miliminutes » Wed Jan 6, 2016 7:41 pm

Reggie's ridiculous reach makes his mediocre D a lil better. Jennings' added strength has him potentially defending a bit better. If it proves possible that they can both be on the court for 30+mins, and be badazz's, then you have to offer him the fat check. Hope that the star level of minutes is good enough.
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Re: 20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings 

Post#43 » by joedumars1 » Wed Jan 6, 2016 9:44 pm

I'm a big advocate of keeping Jennings, but if we could somehow get Bobby Portis from Chicago I think I might do that
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Re: 20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings 

Post#45 » by ElectricMayhem » Thu Jan 7, 2016 10:57 am

I have a hope that Reggie will become a better PG just by watching firsthand how Jennings gets other guys involved.
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Re: 20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings 

Post#46 » by A_dub06 » Thu Jan 7, 2016 3:41 pm

I want to re-sign Jennings as much as the next piston fab but why does everyone believe 1) he is a starter in the league and 2) why will he get a contract $13m+?

Jenning is better than maybe 3 other starters and the pg position is so talented at the moment that's not really a knock against him.

When it comes to his injury also factoring in his age, I doubt many teams will want to him a large sum and it would need to be a team competing or ready compete in which case already have their pg.

I hornet believe anything over $10-11 is an overpay!


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Re: 20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings 

Post#47 » by Collymore » Thu Jan 7, 2016 9:26 pm

A_dub06 wrote:I want to re-sign Jennings as much as the next piston fab but why does everyone believe 1) he is a starter in the league and 2) why will he get a contract $13m+?

Jenning is better than maybe 3 other starters and the pg position is so talented at the moment that's not really a knock against him.

When it comes to his injury also factoring in his age, I doubt many teams will want to him a large sum and it would need to be a team competing or ready compete in which case already have their pg.

I hornet believe anything over $10-11 is an overpay!


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Age? He's only one year older than Reggie.
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Re: 20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings 

Post#48 » by A_dub06 » Fri Jan 8, 2016 10:48 am

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A_dub06 wrote:I want to re-sign Jennings as much as the next piston fab but why does everyone believe 1) he is a starter in the league and 2) why will he get a contract $13m+?

Jenning is better than maybe 3 other starters and the pg position is so talented at the moment that's not really a knock against him.

When it comes to his injury also factoring in his age, I doubt many teams will want to him a large sum and it would need to be a team competing or ready compete in which case already have their pg.

I hornet believe anything over $10-11 is an overpay!


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Age? He's only one year older than Reggie.


He's 27 this year and coming off a major injury. Remember, Jennings situation is different than say ish smith who's 28, starting (and killing it) for the 76ers and making a measly 900k per year. Young teams will want a guard that can grow and compete when their health or another guy that can man the position and lead them until they find the right guy but oh don't do that with Jennings money!


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Re: 20 reasons the Pistons should PAY and keep Brandon Jennings 

Post#49 » by Pharaoh » Fri Jan 8, 2016 12:43 pm

I could see Philly breaking the bank for BJ, as well as NY & Brooklyn.

BJ would get the ball to the right guys in the right spots and over the next 4 years he'd either help develop the young guns or help compete for the playoffs.

RoLo, Zingus, Melo, AA, BJ...

BroLo, Thad, Jeff, FA, BJ

Okafor, Noel, Covington, Rookie, BJ...

Dude could easily make bank with those 3 teams

The question is IF the money was close would he stay here?

RJ 20 + BJ 28
KCP 28 + RJ 10 + SJ 10

That's a dominating backcourt with plenty of potency on both ends!

Batum 30 + SJ 18
Mook 14 + Illy 24 + Tolly 10

Quality forwards with SJ developing behind Batum - and let's be real - SJ likely peaks as a jack of all trades SF like Nic

Mook, Illy & Tolly bring the noise at PF - different strokes for different folks

Dre 35 + Mook 13 - with Baynes a luxury we can afford!

IMO that's a gun squad

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