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Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF

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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#21 » by Snakebites » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:11 am

SVG sums things up well. We don't have another viable wing player to put in during the minutes Morris would be vacating at the 3.

Until that changes (Meeks?) its not really an option we can explore. If Meeks comes back Johnson can swap the minutes he's getting at the 2 for more minutes at the 3 and this can all work out. Until then, sorry Morris.
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#22 » by Cowology » Fri Jan 29, 2016 2:44 am

More does not mean all. No reason this can't start small. 10 more mpg at PF. 10 more mpg for Stanley/Jennings. This would certainly not throw off the gravitational forces of the Pistons universe and pull us into the void.

As Meeks/Jennings get healthy and return to form, as Stanley improves, as we make other incremental improvements to our wing rotation than you can afford to go to it more often. Or pull the damn trigger on a trade and turn one of those excess "bigs" into a comparable player at a greater position of need. That is his job as GM, isn't it??
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#23 » by treefi » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:43 am

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Joe Berry wrote:Thats the problem with Morris at the 4.
"If we're going to play Marcus more at the 4, then we're going to have to play another perimeter guy rather than one of the 4s," Van Gundy said. "And right now, I think the nine guys we're playing are our best nine guys. I don't want to go down the list to move Marcus. If I'm going to play him there, either Ersan or A.T. has to sit out."


Why can't Stanley just play more minutes at 2 and 3?


He can't shoot? ... yet, anyway
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#24 » by Todd3 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:14 am

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Todd3 wrote:
Joe Berry wrote:Thats the problem with Morris at the 4.


Why can't Stanley just play more minutes at 2 and 3?


He can't shoot? ... yet, anyway


He's shooting better from 3 than the current guys playing there.

SJ - 32.3%
MM - 30.7%
KCP - 31.2%
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#25 » by Finn McCool » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:19 am

Tolliver 37%

Ilyasova 36.7%

Ranked 7th & 8th on ESPN among PFs from behind the arc.
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#26 » by El Chivo » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:03 am

but they're not as cool as Markieff...
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#27 » by mattao313 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:17 am

I like Tolliver in his role but I don't care about Ersans 3pt% watching him play and make bonehead decisions is enough for me to not think he is a good player especially for a starter. Ersan is a one trick pony thats not even great at his one trick.
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#28 » by Todd3 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:47 am

Finn McCool wrote:Tolliver 37%

Ilyasova 36.7%

Ranked 7th & 8th on ESPN among PFs from behind the arc.


That's the reason Stan is reluctant to reduce their minutes, imo, more so than not having another SG (because SJ/BJ could play there). It's because AT/EI are our best 3 pt shooters and we need shooters around RJ/Dre, which is understandable. .

Same reason Marcus probably can't be a longterm solution at PF, because can't have a trio of 30% shooters around RJ/Dre.

The reason its our best offensive lineup now is because they push the pace in transition w/ SJ and get easy pts. In the playoffs though you need halfcourt shooters. It can succeed now in the reg season though and we should use it more.

If not Morris at PF then maybe Morris off the bench because SJ is ready to start or at least get more minutes somehow.
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#29 » by Pistons888 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 1:15 pm

mattao313 wrote:I like Tolliver in his role but I don't care about Ersans 3pt% watching him play and make bonehead decisions is enough for me to not think he is a good player especially for a starter. Ersan is a one trick pony thats not even great at his one trick.


I agree. His 3 pt% is totally negated by the constant pump fakes and drives to the basket. I think it's starting to trickle into frustration for the starters (at least RJ) because you can see the team not so happy when he passes up his shots.
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#30 » by Finn McCool » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:43 pm

Todd3 wrote:
Finn McCool wrote:Tolliver 37%

Ilyasova 36.7%

Ranked 7th & 8th on ESPN among PFs from behind the arc.


That's the reason Stan is reluctant to reduce their minutes, imo, more so than not having another SG (because SJ/BJ could play there). It's because AT/EI are our best 3 pt shooters and we need shooters around RJ/Dre, which is understandable. .

Same reason Marcus probably can't be a longterm solution at PF, because can't have a trio of 30% shooters around RJ/Dre.

The reason its our best offensive lineup now is because they push the pace in transition w/ SJ and get easy pts. In the playoffs though you need halfcourt shooters. It can succeed now in the reg season though and we should use it more.

If not Morris at PF then maybe Morris off the bench because SJ is ready to start or at least get more minutes somehow.


You're probably correct. Stan's system is contingent upon 3-pt shooting, IMHO. Live by the 3, die by the 3.
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Re: Marcus Morris Wants More Time At PF 

Post#31 » by pistontr » Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:41 am

stanley will start after all star. svg doesn't wnt this but he has to do it. we are falling.
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