Jennings... Should He Stay or Should He Go?

[Finn McCool]

Jennings still looks like a guy coming off of a serious Achilles injury. It's too early to make a solid case either way. I don't think we will really know how close he can get back to normal before the trade deadline so my guess is Detroit will stick with him and see how it plays out.

It's doubtful Brandon has any real trade value right now anyways. Pretty much all of the good/contending/playoff teams are set at point guard. The bad teams who need one probably don't want to make a move like this in-season and simultaneously get better and hurt their lottery chances. Especially not for a guy on an expiring contract.

I wish Stan had followed that way of thinking. Nowhere near a playoff team, yet he continually sought to improve the roster.

[MotownMadness]

Jennings still looks like a guy coming off of a serious Achilles injury. It's too early to make a solid case either way. I don't think we will really know how close he can get back to normal before the trade deadline so my guess is Detroit will stick with him and see how it plays out.

It's doubtful Brandon has any real trade value right now anyways. Pretty much all of the good/contending/playoff teams are set at point guard. The bad teams who need one probably don't want to make a move like this in-season and simultaneously get better and hurt their lottery chances. Especially not for a guy on an expiring contract.

I wish Stan had followed that way of thinking. Nowhere near a playoff team, yet he continually sought to improve the roster.

Pretty sure he's completely transformed this roster with young guys and flexibility without sacrificing the future. This Team was in a complete dumpster fire when he took over and he now has one of the youngest up incoming rosters in the league that's already a playoff team.

[Hotmayo]

yes man. jennings is a frkn cancer. and a loser player. i knew it the second he was going to come back he was going to be a problem hes a selfish diva. then he mouthed off that we need a leader. **** you dude. you havent played for a YEAR and you go and disrupt team chemistry that quick your annoying and need to be traded.

bye felicia

steve blake is better for us off the bench then you are, higher iq, solid veteran, and better 3pt shot

LOL at boston being a 5th seed right now

[Spider156]

He's not going anywhere. Considering that Teague is a starter in this league and Atlanta is going to have Schroeder start for them, I think Jennings just lost another potential starting position. His inconsistent play also isn't helping him. Can't blame the guy since he just came back from injury. I think we'll keep Jennings and see a better version of him after the All Star break.

[tradez401]

i think we should take a gamble and trade him for some assets. i find it hard to believe he'd want to resign with this team for less money as a backup for reggie when teams can obviously use him as starter for more money just my opinion.

[SVG]

Trading him makes more sense because like others said, he's not coming back to Detroit to be a backup, he wants his own team. With that being said, I really don't know what assets we can get in return for him?!!

[babyjax13]

Any opinion on Trey Burke for Jennings? Trey has been pretty good for us this year, and is an excellent backup. He can fill in as a starter in case of injury, but really isn't going to demand that role. For us, we test drive Jennings to see if it is a fit. Considering that he can walk, I'm not sure how I feel about the value (and considering that we could just sign him in the offseason without trading Trey). I'd want a second round included, but might still pull the trigger if it isn't there.

Trey Burke: 12p 2r 3a 43/36/78 in 24 minutes

[jakebernat]

Any opinion on Trey Burke for Jennings? Trey has been pretty good for us this year, and is an excellent backup. He can fill in as a starter in case of injury, but really isn't going to demand that role. For us, we test drive Jennings to see if it is a fit. Considering that he can walk, I'm not sure how I feel about the value (and considering that we could just sign him in the offseason without trading Trey). I'd want a second round included, but might still pull the trigger if it isn't there.

Trey Burke: 12p 2r 3a 43/36/78 in 24 minutes

Jennings is much better than trey Burke, no reason we would even consider attaching a draft pick to acquire the former hometown hero.

Honestly, I'd be much more interested in Alec burks.

[DocRI]

In a bubble, I'm in the "trade him" camp. But in reality outside of that bubble, it's really all about A) what we'd get; and B) our plans for this offseason.

As others have posted, right now Jennings' trade value is as an $8M+ expiring contract; that most likely means that, to get the most value out of trading him, we're gonna have to absorb some long term salary, which could put a crimp in our plans for free agency. And remember, SVG sold Dre on delaying his extension so that we'd have more money to spend this offseason, so any move that preemptively uses our space has to be weighed against, "Is this what Dre had in mind when he forwent financial security so that SVG could improve the team?"

Perfect case in point — there was a thread on the T&T board where a Kings fan wrote that SAC would attach Darren Collision to Marco Belinelli if they could get back expirings / more cap space for this summer (I'm honestly not sure that's true, but it's beside the point). I have zero doubt that Collison > Jennings and Belinelli would provide us another shooter off the bench, so a deal of, say, Jennings & Bullock for Collison & Belinelli would GREATLY improve our bench and our odds to make the playoffs this year ... but we'd be committing ~$9–10M of our cap space to do it. Is that short term benefit worth the long term sacrifice? IMHO, that's a tough question.

[babyjax13]

Any opinion on Trey Burke for Jennings? Trey has been pretty good for us this year, and is an excellent backup. He can fill in as a starter in case of injury, but really isn't going to demand that role. For us, we test drive Jennings to see if it is a fit. Considering that he can walk, I'm not sure how I feel about the value (and considering that we could just sign him in the offseason without trading Trey). I'd want a second round included, but might still pull the trigger if it isn't there.

Trey Burke: 12p 2r 3a 43/36/78 in 24 minutes

Jennings is much better than trey Burke, no reason we would even consider attaching a draft pick to acquire the former hometown hero.

Honestly, I'd be much more interested in Alec burks.

Jennings is expiring, there is zero chance we'd trade Alec for him. My thought was that you'd at least have a decent backup point guard moving forward rather than having Jennings leave. Don't know if that really is a concern or not, but if it is, Trey for Jennings makes a ton of sense. If not, the Jazz aren't going to leverage any assets for someone they'd have a decent chance at signing in the offseason.

[DocRI]

Any opinion on Trey Burke for Jennings? Trey has been pretty good for us this year, and is an excellent backup. He can fill in as a starter in case of injury, but really isn't going to demand that role. For us, we test drive Jennings to see if it is a fit. Considering that he can walk, I'm not sure how I feel about the value (and considering that we could just sign him in the offseason without trading Trey). I'd want a second round included, but might still pull the trigger if it isn't there.

Trey Burke: 12p 2r 3a 43/36/78 in 24 minutes

I posted something slightly similar in a thread on the T&T board, but the difference was that the extra value was coming back to DET, not UTA — Brandon Jennings for Trey Burke, Joe Inglis (or however you guys wanted to match salaries), and the right to swap 2016 first rounders. Basically, most likely about a 5 slot drop on draft night to upgrade from Burke to Jennings for the playoff push (although we'd admittedly be doing this on the off chance you guys failed to make the playoffs and we could catch lotto lightning in a bottle). The idea wasn't received TOO badly by Jazz fans ... until it was pointed out that Jennings is an impending UFA; I honestly thought his "rental" status could be a plus for you guys, as it wouldn't commit additional salary at a position you've got earmarked for Exum, but general consensus was that was a deal breaker for the Jazz.

But yeah, if we're ADDING value AND taking on long term salary while dealing Jennings, it's gonna be for a significant upgrade.

[babyjax13]

Any opinion on Trey Burke for Jennings? Trey has been pretty good for us this year, and is an excellent backup. He can fill in as a starter in case of injury, but really isn't going to demand that role. For us, we test drive Jennings to see if it is a fit. Considering that he can walk, I'm not sure how I feel about the value (and considering that we could just sign him in the offseason without trading Trey). I'd want a second round included, but might still pull the trigger if it isn't there.

Trey Burke: 12p 2r 3a 43/36/78 in 24 minutes

I posted something slightly similar in a thread on the T&T board, but the difference was that the extra value was coming back to DET, not UTA — Brandon Jennings for Trey Burke, Joe Inglis (or however you guys wanted to match salaries), and the right to swap 2016 first rounders. Basically, most likely about a 5 slot drop on draft night to upgrade from Burke to Jennings for the playoff push (although we'd admittedly be doing this on the off chance you guys failed to make the playoffs and we could catch lotto lightning in a bottle). The idea wasn't received TOO badly by Jazz fans ... until it was pointed out that Jennings is an impending UFA; I honestly thought his "rental" status could be a plus for you guys, as it wouldn't commit additional salary at a position you've got earmarked for Exum, but general consensus was that was a deal breaker for the Jazz.

But yeah, if we're ADDING value AND taking on long term salary while dealing Jennings, it's gonna be for a significant upgrade.

That makes sense. I was actually one of the ones in favor till I realized he was expiring

I just don't think you trade someone that offers long term stability and add assets when the guy you are getting back might leave (although I think that if he fits that there would be a reasonable expectation to resign him).

[DocRI]

Any opinion on Trey Burke for Jennings? Trey has been pretty good for us this year, and is an excellent backup. He can fill in as a starter in case of injury, but really isn't going to demand that role. For us, we test drive Jennings to see if it is a fit. Considering that he can walk, I'm not sure how I feel about the value (and considering that we could just sign him in the offseason without trading Trey). I'd want a second round included, but might still pull the trigger if it isn't there.

Trey Burke: 12p 2r 3a 43/36/78 in 24 minutes

I posted something slightly similar in a thread on the T&T board, but the difference was that the extra value was coming back to DET, not UTA — Brandon Jennings for Trey Burke, Joe Inglis (or however you guys wanted to match salaries), and the right to swap 2016 first rounders. Basically, most likely about a 5 slot drop on draft night to upgrade from Burke to Jennings for the playoff push (although we'd admittedly be doing this on the off chance you guys failed to make the playoffs and we could catch lotto lightning in a bottle). The idea wasn't received TOO badly by Jazz fans ... until it was pointed out that Jennings is an impending UFA; I honestly thought his "rental" status could be a plus for you guys, as it wouldn't commit additional salary at a position you've got earmarked for Exum, but general consensus was that was a deal breaker for the Jazz.

But yeah, if we're ADDING value AND taking on long term salary while dealing Jennings, it's gonna be for a significant upgrade.

That makes sense. I was actually one of the ones in favor till I realized he was expiring

I just don't think you trade someone that offers long term stability and add assets when the guy you are getting back might leave (although I think that if he fits that there would be a reasonable expectation to resign him).

That makes sense, too. But of course, we're also pushing for the playoffs this season, so we're not just gonna take a downgrade at backup PG without some sorta incentive (and that doesn't even touch upon the offseason cap space situation, even if Burkes is relatively cheap). In the end, it's tough to make a swap when both teams wanna be "buyers" and improve themselves for the stretch run ... so, can we come up with a third team who wants to "sell" to facilitate the deal?

[Moses ShamMoses]

I'd consider a Jennings/Bullock for Burke/Booker deal. I think this team could use a change of pace PF in the lineup. Im not sold on Burke but looking at this stats this season he seems solid.

[babyjax13]

I'd consider a Jennings/Bullock for Burke/Booker deal. I think this team could use a change of pace PF in the lineup. Im not sold on Burke but looking at this stats this season he seems solid.

We'd be interested in that. Lyles has shown the ability to be more than solid at power forward, so Booker is a luxury at this point (although his energy is really valuable for us). I'm assuming that Bullock doesn't look like much of a player at this point?

[babyjax13]

I posted something slightly similar in a thread on the T&T board, but the difference was that the extra value was coming back to DET, not UTA — Brandon Jennings for Trey Burke, Joe Inglis (or however you guys wanted to match salaries), and the right to swap 2016 first rounders. Basically, most likely about a 5 slot drop on draft night to upgrade from Burke to Jennings for the playoff push (although we'd admittedly be doing this on the off chance you guys failed to make the playoffs and we could catch lotto lightning in a bottle). The idea wasn't received TOO badly by Jazz fans ... until it was pointed out that Jennings is an impending UFA; I honestly thought his "rental" status could be a plus for you guys, as it wouldn't commit additional salary at a position you've got earmarked for Exum, but general consensus was that was a deal breaker for the Jazz.

But yeah, if we're ADDING value AND taking on long term salary while dealing Jennings, it's gonna be for a significant upgrade.

That makes sense. I was actually one of the ones in favor till I realized he was expiring

I just don't think you trade someone that offers long term stability and add assets when the guy you are getting back might leave (although I think that if he fits that there would be a reasonable expectation to resign him).

That makes sense, too. But of course, we're also pushing for the playoffs this season, so we're not just gonna take a downgrade at backup PG without some sorta incentive (and that doesn't even touch upon the offseason cap space situation, even if Burkes is relatively cheap). In the end, it's tough to make a swap when both teams wanna be "buyers" and improve themselves for the stretch run ... so, can we come up with a third team who wants to "sell" to facilitate the deal?

Perhaps NOP? Swing Trey and some other asset/assets from Detroit for Tyreke Evans?

[Moses ShamMoses]

I'd consider a Jennings/Bullock for Burke/Booker deal. I think this team could use a change of pace PF in the lineup. Im not sold on Burke but looking at this stats this season he seems solid.

We'd be interested in that. Lyles has shown the ability to be more than solid at power forward, so Booker is a luxury at this point (although his energy is really valuable for us). I'm assuming that Bullock doesn't look like much of a player at this point?

TBH Bullock has been disappointing...He was great in the preseason and many of us fans thought he was a shoo-in to be in the rotation but he fell flat in the regular season. it's like he got his contract guaranteed and stopped playing hard. He has talent but he needs to grow up a bit.