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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#41 » by pistontr » Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:58 am

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Natopher wrote:You do realize that he was 9/12 from the field, draining mid-range jumpers, 1/2 from 3 and by far our best player tonight, right? How can he not shoot?


here his numbers and here is his scouting report.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6440/tobias-harris
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/player/hollinger/_/id/6440/tobias-harris


well then lets just hope that he can continue to develop under a new coach and system that fits his style of play better. at 23 years old, he's trending towards the exact player we need.



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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#42 » by Moses ShamMoses » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:03 am

Jeff is the linchpin in the wheeling and dealing..Stan admittedly just sort of goes along with everything he and the scouts say. I guess that's a sign of how well the process which was set up by Stan is working though.
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#43 » by Blkbrd671 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:03 am

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hope is not my thing.


neither is understanding that every player isn't a INSTANT SUPERSTAR
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#44 » by pistontr » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:07 am

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hope is not my thing.


neither is understanding that every player isn't a INSTANT SUPERSTAR


what superstar man.
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#45 » by pistontr » Sat Feb 20, 2016 3:09 am

I hate he is too young he may develop this rhetoric. why not get a player who does that already.
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#46 » by Blkbrd671 » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:21 am

pistontr wrote:I hate he is too young he may develop this rhetoric. why not get a player who does that already.


like? what exactly is your point?

BJ and Illy> Harris?
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#47 » by pistontr » Sat Feb 20, 2016 5:09 am

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pistontr wrote:I hate he is too young he may develop this rhetoric. why not get a player who does that already.


like? what exactly is your point?

BJ and Illy> Harris?


monroe is better than illy but drummond-illy is better than drummond-monroe. it is not about who is better.

we needed a power forward who can shoot and defend. harris is opposite of this. also he is overpaid and a volume shooter.

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Post#48 » by Pharaoh » Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:43 am

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pistontr wrote:I hate he is too young he may develop this rhetoric. why not get a player who does that already.


like? what exactly is your point?

BJ and Illy> Harris?


monroe is better than illy but drummond-illy is better than drummond-monroe. it is not about who is better.

we needed a power forward who can shoot and defend. harris is opposite of this. also he is overpaid and a volume shooter.

If you can't improve your team, stay put.


I do not believe you watch games!

Harris is a clear and significant upgrade over Illy and our team is vastly superior with him on the roster.

Give them a chance to adjust
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#49 » by DET_Athletics » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:38 pm

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DET_Athletics wrote:I love everything this FO has done, but baynes and meeks have to go on draft night before free agency, moving them would clear another 10 million dollars, put that with the 10 we have and we could offer a near max contract. if we make a good playoff push, you can't tell me we wouldn't be on the radar of a young and upcoming free agent to come to Detroit.


i think we are done with big contracts. Dre,Dmo are priority and remaining money goes to our depth. Backup pg maybe?


with the cap going up we have the room for it, and if you want talent you have to pay for it or draft it. only glaring holes IMO is starting SF and back up point, i like morris but not at the rate we are using him, and stanley isn't quite ready to taking the staring spot, a long defensive minded PF/C wouldn't be bad either.
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#50 » by DET_Athletics » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:42 pm

pistontr wrote:
Blkbrd671 wrote:
pistontr wrote:I hate he is too young he may develop this rhetoric. why not get a player who does that already.


like? what exactly is your point?

BJ and Illy> Harris?


monroe is better than illy but drummond-illy is better than drummond-monroe. it is not about who is better.

we needed a power forward who can shoot and defend. harris is opposite of this. also he is overpaid and a volume shooter.

If you can't improve your team, stay put.



ummm harris can shoot, just not the 3ball that well. but he's 23, he can put the work in, and he's already 10 times better on defense. illyasova had bricks for feet at this stage of his career.
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#51 » by ComboGuardCity » Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:50 pm

3s aren't everything. Harris will be just fine.
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#52 » by Blkbrd671 » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:38 am

DET_Athletics wrote:
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DET_Athletics wrote:I love everything this FO has done, but baynes and meeks have to go on draft night before free agency, moving them would clear another 10 million dollars, put that with the 10 we have and we could offer a near max contract. if we make a good playoff push, you can't tell me we wouldn't be on the radar of a young and upcoming free agent to come to Detroit.


i think we are done with big contracts. Dre,Dmo are priority and remaining money goes to our depth. Backup pg maybe?


with the cap going up we have the room for it, and if you want talent you have to pay for it or draft it. only glaring holes IMO is starting SF and back up point, i like morris but not at the rate we are using him, and stanley isn't quite ready to taking the staring spot, a long defensive minded PF/C wouldn't be bad either.


Harris could be our SF and DMo our PF. I would say if we are throwing money at anything its another versatile defender. Backup pg depending on SD plays these remianing 28 games or if he plays
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#53 » by DET_Athletics » Sun Feb 21, 2016 3:38 am

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i think we are done with big contracts. Dre,Dmo are priority and remaining money goes to our depth. Backup pg maybe?


with the cap going up we have the room for it, and if you want talent you have to pay for it or draft it. only glaring holes IMO is starting SF and back up point, i like morris but not at the rate we are using him, and stanley isn't quite ready to taking the staring spot, a long defensive minded PF/C wouldn't be bad either.


Harris could be our SF and DMo our PF. I would say if we are throwing money at anything its another versatile defender. Backup pg depending on SD plays these remianing 28 games or if he plays


i agree some of that, harris can play SF for us, but i think were we will kill teams is if we run and use our young legs. i don't see us running that much with that bigger lineup, plus it takes away from the depth that you just acquired. and lastly D-mo is cleared to play but i don't want him to be used to much, especially with his back problems.
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#54 » by Pharaoh » Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:03 am

The advantage we COULD have is our ability to force match ups.

Bill Russell used to say that you win by making teams play your style of ball (GSW say hello)

Depth chart:

Dre/Baynes/DMo

Harris/Mook/DMo/AT

Mook/SJ/Harris/KCP/Thornton

KCP/SJ/Thornton/Meeks

All guys worthy of minutes...pick how you wanna play and we can roll with that.

Let's say GSW roll out their super scoring line up of Dray, Barnes, Iggy, Klay, Curry.

We COULD go DMo, Harris, Mook, KCP, RJ & look to post up Barnes with Mook or Harris depending on switches.

Or we go big and slow the game down with Dre, DMo, Harris, KCP, SJ (eventually)...

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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#55 » by pistontr » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:05 pm

GOAT ha. Enjoy the turmoil.
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Re: Stan and Jeff =GOAT 

Post#56 » by ComboGuardCity » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:48 pm

pistontr wrote:GOAT ha. Enjoy the turmoil.

Turmoil? This is Pistons basketball not Ukraine.

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