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Darrun Hilliard NOT Out w/ Stress Fracture in Back, Still Hurt

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Re: Darrun Hilliard NOT Out w/ Stress Fracture in Back, Still Hurt 

Post#21 » by Alexander » Fri Jul 8, 2016 8:27 pm

I don't have any hopes or expectations out of Hillard or Bullock.
I thought Kim English's professionalism would keep him around as a specialist, I was wrong. I thought Tony Mitchell's elite athleticism would keep him around long enough for his skills to catch up to him, I was wrong. I thought Dajuan Summers' size and strength would enable to determine what kind of player he would be, SF or PF or what, and carve out a career for himself. I was wrong.
I'm not going to let a second rounder disappoint me again for a while. Anything Hillard or Bullock or Gbinije contributes is am unexpected bonus, as far as I'm concerned.
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Post#22 » by need4detroit » Fri Jul 8, 2016 8:37 pm

Bullock shot the **** out of the ball even in the playoffs. I think its fair to expect things from him. He's the teams best shooter and has the prototypical size and athleticism of an NBA 2.
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Re: Darrun Hilliard NOT Out w/ Stress Fracture in Back, Still Hurt 

Post#23 » by epheisey » Fri Jul 8, 2016 8:37 pm

Alexander wrote:I don't have any hopes or expectations out of Hillard or Bullock.

I'm not going to let a second rounder disappoint me again for a while. Anything Hillard or Bullock or Gbinije contributes is am unexpected bonus, as far as I'm concerned.



Fans always seem to think OUR team uncovered the gem of the 2nd rd. There was a lot of talk that Dinwiddie was the future at PG around here.

We have had some success in the past with the likes of Middleton, Singler, and Amir Johnson. But for every successful 2nd round pick, we've had a bunch more that are playing in Europe or not at all.
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Re: Darrun Hilliard NOT Out w/ Stress Fracture in Back, Still Hurt 

Post#24 » by Alexander » Fri Jul 8, 2016 8:43 pm

epheisey wrote:
Alexander wrote:I don't have any hopes or expectations out of Hillard or Bullock.

I'm not going to let a second rounder disappoint me again for a while. Anything Hillard or Bullock or Gbinije contributes is am unexpected bonus, as far as I'm concerned.



Fans always seem to think OUR team uncovered the gem of the 2nd rd. There was a lot of talk that Dinwiddie was the future at PG around here.

We have had some success in the past with the likes of Middleton, Singler, and Amir Johnson. But for every successful 2nd round pick, we've had a bunch more that are playing in Europe or not at all.

Exactly. and Middleton and Johnson panned out for other teams. Brian Cardinal's best years came way after he moved on from teh Pistons.
We seemed to get Singler at his peak, and Jerebko's most impactful season was his first one when Tayshaun was injured, but besides that and Okur (ish, before we lost him to the Jazz and I had to learn what bird rights were), we haven't gotten a lot out of our *own* second round selections while they were Pistons.
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Post#25 » by joedumars1 » Fri Jul 8, 2016 8:44 pm

epheisey wrote:
Alexander wrote:I don't have any hopes or expectations out of Hillard or Bullock.

I'm not going to let a second rounder disappoint me again for a while. Anything Hillard or Bullock or Gbinije contributes is am unexpected bonus, as far as I'm concerned.



Fans always seem to think OUR team uncovered the gem of the 2nd rd. There was a lot of talk that Dinwiddie was the future at PG around here.

We have had some success in the past with the likes of Middleton, Singler, and Amir Johnson. But for every successful 2nd round pick, we've had a bunch more that are playing in Europe or not at all.

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Post#26 » by coordinator0 » Fri Jul 8, 2016 9:34 pm

need4detroit wrote:Bullock shot the **** out of the ball even in the playoffs. I think its fair to expect things from him. He's the teams best shooter and has the prototypical size and athleticism of an NBA 2.


I'm confused by some of the antipathy towards him.
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Re: Darrun Hilliard NOT Out w/ Stress Fracture in Back, Still Hurt 

Post#27 » by zeebneeb » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:27 pm

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need4detroit wrote:Bullock shot the **** out of the ball even in the playoffs. I think its fair to expect things from him. He's the teams best shooter and has the prototypical size and athleticism of an NBA 2.


I'm confused by some of the antipathy towards him.
Well alot of that stems from how historically bad he was for the first part of the season.

Looking back on it, when Stanley Johnson complained of getting a quick hook, it seems to have made Stan ease up on some of the guys, and allow the game to come to them.

I believe Bullock us the Pistons best pure shooter, and he showed it when he was getting consistent minutes. Problem now is, is that the a Pistons are going to have to trim the fat. They have just too many wing guys, and 2/3 3/2 players. It's borderline ridiculous trying to figure out playing time really.

I believe Bullock should be the primary backup to Pope as he is an excellent shooter, and can roll to the basket, but he is also a plus defender. Problem is, is that Hilliard has shown some flashes of actually being a real gem. How do the Pistons figure that? There are only so many minutes to go around.

It's actually a little bit concerning.

Then I see a thread about a trade for a "superstar" and I'm thinking, "just two years ago the franchise had no direction, looking into oblivion, now we have a solid ass team and everyone wants to start trading away our young core!"

It's wierd because that makes me want to slap a fool, but at the same time mayhems thread about depth problem is correct.

The Pistons have to many quality players and finding playing time is going to be a problem so a trade may actually alleviate the problem but when you bring in a top tier player, who sits?

It's confounding really.

I like Bullock and he found his game. He should play.
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Re: Darrun Hilliard NOT Out w/ Stress Fracture in Back, Still Hurt 

Post#28 » by Chillymo » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:38 pm

I wouldn't trade anyone prior to the deadline injuries to our team or other teams could help us sort our team even further
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Post#29 » by hoophabit » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:42 pm

Bullock was a first round pick (#25). He was strange last year, and I agree that's where a lot of folk's misgivings arise. He looked great in preseason, horrible as soon as it started (at least shooting), and great again down the stretch.
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Post#30 » by flow » Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:55 pm

hoophabit wrote:Bullock was a first round pick (#25). He was strange last year, and I agree that's where a lot of folk's misgivings arise. He looked great in preseason, horrible as soon as it started (at least shooting), and great again down the stretch.


I don't entirely blame Bullock for his struggles in the first half of the season. I blame SVG for giving Bullock such an incredibly short rope that he never really had a chance. Bullock knew if he missed a shot, he'd be yanked. You have to let a shooter miss a couple and shoot his way into comfort/confidence. It was frustrating to watch because then guys like Stanley and KCP would have stretches where they'd put up brick-after-brick with no leash whatsoever.
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Re: Darrun Hilliard NOT Out w/ Stress Fracture in Back, Still Hurt 

Post#31 » by coordinator0 » Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:18 pm

zeebneeb wrote:
coordinator0 wrote:
need4detroit wrote:Bullock shot the **** out of the ball even in the playoffs. I think its fair to expect things from him. He's the teams best shooter and has the prototypical size and athleticism of an NBA 2.


I'm confused by some of the antipathy towards him.
Well alot of that stems from how historically bad he was for the first part of the season.


He hardly played early on though. Any player getting the very sporadic minute (or two :D) isn't going to look good. Maybe Bullock not playing early is a part of it, but it just doesn't make a ton of sense given his performance after Van Gundy got him on the court.
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Post#32 » by Kilo » Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:31 pm

Bullock was a throw in in the Mook deal in the eyes Stan, no different than Granger. I think Bullocks showing in his one GRDrive game (Game Jennings played in, Hilliard as well) was a bit of an eye opener for Stan as well. Bullock is a RFA after this season, if talks with KCP are far apart I might even look to extend Reggie before the deadline if possible, if we could get a deal there.
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Re: Darrun Hilliard NOT Out w/ Stress Fracture in Back, Still Hurt 

Post#33 » by fpower » Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:40 am

coordinator0 wrote:
need4detroit wrote:Bullock shot the **** out of the ball even in the playoffs. I think its fair to expect things from him. He's the teams best shooter and has the prototypical size and athleticism of an NBA 2.


I'm confused by some of the antipathy towards him.


Me too. Bullock was the guy a was clamoring about getting more minutes down the stretch last year. He's done nothing to change my opinion about him. I know Stanley is the draft pick, but Bullock outplayed Stanley for a significant chunk of last year. I'm excited about Stanley, but you have to be careful not to ignore a diamond in the rough just because he's not a "name".

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