KCP = Stuckey

[Cowology]

Cow is 100% wrong in one regard...KCP isn't Stuckey per se until some stupid GM pays him like he's the cornerstone of the team.

haha fair 'nuff!

I'm honestly surprised this thread is still kicking around, but shows how polarizing KCP has been this season. Which dare I say... is very Stuckey like.

[Blkbrd671]

Great article on KCP

After improving his 3-point field goal percentage from 31.9 percent his rookie year to 34.5 percent in his second year, it looked like he was making strides and becoming more comfortable as an outside shooter. But in his third year, Caldwell-Pope regressed: shooting just 30.9 percent on 369 three-point attempts. KCP’s poor shooting on such a high volume hindered the Pistons’ offense at times, leading to inconsistent performances.

Caldwell-Pope is a willing shooter, which is a valuable trait. But to improve his consistency, he’s going to need to refine his mechanics and decision making. When his mechanics are correct, he tends to be very good. The problem is he’s often off-balance—sometimes shooting flatfooted, relying too much on his upper body to generate range.

By simply improving his shot selection and not forcing unassisted 3-point attempts, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope can greatly improve shooting. Should he focus on becoming more of a catch-and-shoot wing and utilizing the pre-shot techniques he already knows, he can become the “Three-and-D” wing the Pistons desperately need in order to become a more dynamic offense.

http://bballbreakdown.com/2016/09/07/proving-grounds-kentavious-caldwell-pope/

[Pharaoh]

I find it funny that people can crucify KCP for his off-balance, flat footed shooting...

Who's setting him up? When is RJ going to get his share of the blame?

It ain't baseball! You can't isolate one individual's game & break it down to brass tacks without looking at the group

[detroitKG]

Real Talk dude would get his legs more into his shot if he wasn't playing the most minutes on the team consistently...Bullock or Hilliard stepping up this season would be huge for KCP and his shot IMHO..And yes Reggie needs to cut the over dribbling crap lol but both he and SVG have acknowledged that fact so should see some improvement there this season..

[Spider156]

Real Talk dude would get his legs more into his shot if he wasn't playing the most minutes on the team consistently...Bullock or Hilliard stepping up this season would be huge for KCP and his shot IMHO..And yes Reggie needs to cut the over dribbling crap lol but both he and SVG have acknowledged that fact so should see some improvement there this season..

I think Jackson saw it the moment they started double teaming him in the Playoffs. He knows the offense starts with him so as soon as he keeps the ball for too long and the ball stops moving, the offense suffers. I think with a better bench, Jackson's offense won't be relied upon so much this season specially with Smith as back up PG which should be a treat to watch every night.

[Spider156]

I find it funny that people can crucify KCP for his off-balance, flat footed shooting...

Who's setting him up? When is RJ going to get his share of the blame?

It ain't baseball! You can't isolate one individual's game & break it down to brass tacks without looking at the group

You watch a ton of Pistons games yourself and you can't sit there and say KCP doesn't brick a fair share amount of his open shots. That's really the only thing he needs to address. Everytime he's open that ball needs to be sunk inside the ring and that really is the difference between a shooter and an NBA shooter. It's all about deliberate shot making cuz the truth is everybody can shoot but can you execute in gametime? KCP executed among the best during the Playoffs so I have no doubt he'll be hot this season barring any injury. You don't question a motor like KCP's, he's good to go.

[Pharaoh]

I find it funny that people can crucify KCP for his off-balance, flat footed shooting...

Who's setting him up? When is RJ going to get his share of the blame?

It ain't baseball! You can't isolate one individual's game & break it down to brass tacks without looking at the group

You watch a ton of Pistons games yourself and you can't sit there and say KCP doesn't brick a fair share amount of his open shots. That's really the only thing he needs to address. Everytime he's open that ball needs to be sunk inside the ring and that really is the difference between a shooter and an NBA shooter. It's all about deliberate shot making cuz the truth is everybody can shoot but can you execute in gametime? KCP executed among the best during the Playoffs so I have no doubt he'll be hot this season barring any injury. You don't question a motor like KCP's, he's good to go.

I honestly think if KCP played "normal" starter minutes he'd be better off.

30-33 minutes should be the limit for all our starters now. We've got quality depth at every position

[MrBigShot]

I find it funny that people can crucify KCP for his off-balance, flat footed shooting...

Who's setting him up? When is RJ going to get his share of the blame?

It ain't baseball! You can't isolate one individual's game & break it down to brass tacks without looking at the group

You watch a ton of Pistons games yourself and you can't sit there and say KCP doesn't brick a fair share amount of his open shots. That's really the only thing he needs to address. Everytime he's open that ball needs to be sunk inside the ring and that really is the difference between a shooter and an NBA shooter. It's all about deliberate shot making cuz the truth is everybody can shoot but can you execute in gametime? KCP executed among the best during the Playoffs so I have no doubt he'll be hot this season barring any injury. You don't question a motor like KCP's, he's good to go.

Yup, he misses too many open looks. That was his main issue last season, as far as shooting guys. In fact, I always had a feeling whenever KCP took an off-balanced or off the dribble jumper it had a really good chance of going in, whereas spotting up it felt like a toss up.

Part of it I attribute to ability, and part of it might just be that he had bad shooting year considering he shot 34.5% (still sub optimal) the year before. As you said, KCP's motor is never in question and he tends to step up in the biggest moments (played well in playoffs, had some of his best games against the Spurs and Warriors this season)

[Pharaoh]

I find it funny that people can crucify KCP for his off-balance, flat footed shooting...

Who's setting him up? When is RJ going to get his share of the blame?

It ain't baseball! You can't isolate one individual's game & break it down to brass tacks without looking at the group

You watch a ton of Pistons games yourself and you can't sit there and say KCP doesn't brick a fair share amount of his open shots. That's really the only thing he needs to address. Everytime he's open that ball needs to be sunk inside the ring and that really is the difference between a shooter and an NBA shooter. It's all about deliberate shot making cuz the truth is everybody can shoot but can you execute in gametime? KCP executed among the best during the Playoffs so I have no doubt he'll be hot this season barring any injury. You don't question a motor like KCP's, he's good to go.

As a shooter that used to get the ball consistently in good positions I can attest that NOT getting it consistently plays havoc with your shot

Open, kinda open, off the bounce...it's all effected when you're not receiving the ball consistently.

Your shot's not falling partly because of it so you put more pressure on yourself when creating your own shots... because as a shooter you know if you can get a few to go you'll get into your rhythm

And being in rhythm is what it's all about for any shooter.

It ain't all Reggie's fault and it ain't all on KCP either - it's a team thing and we're all aware after watching a ton of games how craptacular our offense can be at times.

We need more movement off the ball - as a board we identified this often

We need others to create in the PnR besides just RJ - again, identified by the board numerous times.

Yet when we discuss players as individuals we never seem to take TEAM issues into account

[Todd3]

While KCPs motor is an asset on defense, I've always felt it was a contributing factor to all of those off-balance shots on offense. On defense, going full-throttle 24/7 can work to your advantage, but offense is all about rhythm and timing and you have to be able to ease up and compose yourself before shooting. Too often he just catches & shoots going a million mph, and that's why he's off-balance imo.

[Todd3]

I find it funny that people can crucify KCP for his off-balance, flat footed shooting...

Who's setting him up? When is RJ going to get his share of the blame?

It ain't baseball! You can't isolate one individual's game & break it down to brass tacks without looking at the group

You watch a ton of Pistons games yourself and you can't sit there and say KCP doesn't brick a fair share amount of his open shots. That's really the only thing he needs to address. Everytime he's open that ball needs to be sunk inside the ring and that really is the difference between a shooter and an NBA shooter. It's all about deliberate shot making cuz the truth is everybody can shoot but can you execute in gametime? KCP executed among the best during the Playoffs so I have no doubt he'll be hot this season barring any injury. You don't question a motor like KCP's, he's good to go.

As a shooter that used to get the ball consistently in good positions I can attest that NOT getting it consistently plays havoc with your shot

Open, kinda open, off the bounce...it's all effected when you're not receiving the ball consistently.

Your shot's not falling partly because of it so you put more pressure on yourself when creating your own shots... because as a shooter you know if you can get a few to go you'll get into your rhythm

And being in rhythm is what it's all about for any shooter.

I agree with your premise, but a shooter has to prove he can make them consistently for a coach/PG to keep running plays for him.

He got 5 per game (10th most attempts among SGs), so it's not like Reggie was ignoring him. Considering he was only 38th in 3P%, giving him 5 per game was more than generous.

Were there times he was open and Reggie didn't pass? Yeah, but that's what happens when you shoot 30%. Can't have him taking 7-8+ three's per game. Reggie as PG has to make sure the ball is getting to the hot hand and not the guys who are cold.