Ten game checkup (twitter thread)

[In SVG We Trust]

Ah the useless data analysis of highlighting Bullock with a sample size so small while trying to downplay KCP and Leuer

JonW aka Todd3 welcome back to the forums. I knew you couldn't stay away. Plus after you got banned 2 years ago using Q00 I believe you replied with that exact account as Jon to one of my posts.

So Todd is back... great.

How many accounts has this guy? Because I'm pretty sure PistonsSince85 is him too.

[DBC10]

Ah the useless data analysis of highlighting Bullock with a sample size so small while trying to downplay KCP and Leuer

JonW aka Todd3 welcome back to the forums. I knew you couldn't stay away. Plus after you got banned 2 years ago using Q00 I believe you replied with that exact account as Jon to one of my posts.

So Todd is back... great.

How many accounts has this guy? Because I'm pretty sure PistonsSince85 is him too.

He's all over the place. Even on discussion boards on Pistonpowered and detroitbadboys. On multiple accounts, it's quite annoying.

But I don't think PistonsSince85 is him. Todd's entire broken logic is him thinking RJ and Dre are our superstars worth building a team around and never giving an inch toward any other thoughts/suggestions. Pistonssince85 wants to trade RJ and even Dre whereas Todd/whatever flavor of the month account doesn't.

[JonW138]

Analyzing the last 10 games as one data set is useless, given all the different lineups used in that time. Morris started at shooting guard and Baynes at power forward in the first game. Bullock and Harris started the next 3. Then Pope and Leuer started the last 6.

If you want to analyze the teams recent play, comparing the 3 different lineups would be a more accurate and meaningful analysis.

Jackson/Morris/Harris/Baynes/Drummond (0W-1L)

Offense: 82.8 ortg, 77 points, 39.8% FG, 35.3% 3P, 15 assists, 13 turnovers
Defense: 119.9 drtg, 110 points, 53.8% FG, 51.6% 3P, 44 points in the paint

Jackson/Bullock/Morris/Harris/Drummond (3W-0L)

Offense: 110.6 ortg, 111.0 ppg, 47.3% FG, 38.5% 3P, 25.3 apg, 13.3 topg
Defense: 100.7 drtg, 101.3 ppg, 41.7% FG, 26.0% 3P, 42.7 points in the paint

Jackson/Pope/Morris/Leuer/Drummond (2W-4L)

Offense: 106.7 ortg, 105.7 ppg, 47.8% FG, 32.4% 3P, 21.0 apg, 12.7 topg
Defense: 110.5 drtg, 108.2 ppg, 48.9% FG, 37.0% 3P, 50.3 points in the paint

Of course you can break down the nuances of each individual lineup and that's a more in-depth look at what's happening. I tend to take deeper looks at these things in my work on Piston Powered and whatnot (like the pace discussion and thread which I believe made its way over here), but there's also value in starting the discussion noting such things as the Pistons score a ton of points with Ish Smith, a demonstrably mediocre guard, and have a terrible offense with Reggie Jackson.

Also, it stands to reason that that RJ/MM/TH/AB/AD lineup had such horrific numbers considering it's a dreadful unit and they were playing the Jazz. It doesn't, however, explain why the Pistons score points like crazy when Ish plays. In addition over every significant sample this season (over the whole season, since Reggie came back, since he started playing really well in late December, and the last ten games) Ish has a higher offensive rating and the team's production as a whole is significantly higher.

There's nothing wrong with the more minute analysis you suggest, but we're not doing ourselves any favors by ignoring stuff like this.


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It's hard to make conclusions about the point guards over the last 10 games given all the different lineups though, because you don't know if it's them or the players around them. The team's FG% and 3P% have actually both been better with Jackson over the last 30 games.

[In SVG We Trust]

Yeah it's great to have a high field goal percentage shooting like ten shots a game, because Reggie really likes to waste the 24s.

[JonW138]

Ah the useless data analysis of highlighting Bullock with a sample size so small while trying to downplay KCP and Leuer

JonW aka Todd3 welcome back to the forums. I knew you couldn't stay away. Plus after you got banned 2 years ago using Q00 I believe you replied with that exact account as Jon to one of my posts.

So Todd is back... great.

I don't know who Todd3 is. I post mainly on the general forum here. In order to analyze the last 10 games accurately the different lineups need to be factored in.

[DBC10]

O...kay. Not even going to play these games anymore. Then by all means just stay over there with all due respect.

It's been peaceful here