Let's face it: Drummond's value is very low

[mercury]

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Van Gundy dispelled any notion that Drummond was being shopped or is on the verge of being dealt. General manager Jeff Bower has brought nothing to him regarding a serious Drummond trade proposal. “Jeff talks to virtually every team in the league all the time. As I’ve said before, every name on our roster has come up. That’s his job. That’s what we’re supposed to be doing. There hasn’t been a serious discussion about Andre, but that doesn’t mean there haven’t been discussions about Andre. The concern, I guess, would be from Andre’s standpoint if nobody had any interest in him.”
38 mins ago – via NBA.com

[whitehops]

NBA.COM
Van Gundy dispelled any notion that Drummond was being shopped or is on the verge of being dealt. General manager Jeff Bower has brought nothing to him regarding a serious Drummond trade proposal. “Jeff talks to virtually every team in the league all the time. As I’ve said before, every name on our roster has come up. That’s his job. That’s what we’re supposed to be doing. There hasn’t been a serious discussion about Andre, but that doesn’t mean there haven’t been discussions about Andre. The concern, I guess, would be from Andre’s standpoint if nobody had any interest in him.”
38 mins ago – via NBA.com

I must say, this is verrry smooth by SVG. Not saying the rest isn't true, but svg knows dre is a little sensitive and the trade rumours obviously bother him so svg tries to turn it into a positive. "Dre, there are trade rumours because other teams want you so bad, not because we want to get rid of you"

[DETermination]

It's funny all the hate Andre is getting on the general board, I have hated on Drummond a lot this season but I still think he is very talented and still has tons of potential. It's just funny to me how people on the general board think of him it's to the point where is becoming really underrated now.

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[In SVG We Trust]

It's sad how delusional are some guys on Dre. It's sad because I understand the frustration and how some people refuse to accept the reality, because they're fans of this team and they really want to believe in our future.

But guys, it is what it is and Dre simply got not enough IQ to improve in some aspects of his game. Damn, you can see his face while a game trying to understand what's happening, he's suffering because he can't read the opponent offense or make good anticipations.

[mercury]

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Does this take into account the sieve perimeter that puts Andre on an island covering two people?

[Pharaoh]

Just rewatched the Sloan panel from 2013 where SVG was unemployed but on the panel...

It's about 52 minutes in where they start to talk about Rondo being injured on the Celtics and what that means analytics wise for the team and if they're better with or without him.

SVG basically says that when a guy like that gets injured and the team does well the returning player needs to adjust his style to suit...

4 years later and SVG obviously hasn't changed his mind on that!

As stated I don't think we trade Dre - he's part of the reason SVG came here.

But Reggie Jackson? Yep, I can see him being gone real soon

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[MotownMadness]

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He's been awful but I know the kids capable of being one of the best centers just by simply doing less and playing smarter. It's frustrating but I'm still not selling low yet.

[mattao313]

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Does this take into account the sieve perimeter that puts Andre on an island covering two people?

Maybe he leaves the perimeters guys on an island.

[hoophabit]

It's sad how delusional some of our posters are about Dre. It's sad because I understand the frustration and how some people refuse to accept only their own view of reality. It's because they're fans of this team and they really want to believe in our future.

But guys, it is what it is, and some of these posters simply don't have the IQ to understand some aspects of the game. Damn, you can see it in their posts that they're trying to understand what's happening. They're suffering because they can't read what they see happening on the floor, or acknowledge assessments other than those that fit their preconceived notions.

(Condescension is an ugly thing.)

[In SVG We Trust]

It's sad how delusional some of our posters are about Dre. It's sad because I understand the frustration and how some people refuse to accept only their own view of reality. It's because they're fans of this team and they really want to believe in our future.

But guys, it is what it is, and some of these posters simply don't have the IQ to understand some aspects of the game. Damn, you can see it in their posts that they're trying to understand what's happening. They're suffering because they can't read what they see happening on the floor, or acknowledge assessments other than those that fit their preconceived notions.

(Condescension is an ugly thing.)

Wow, I'm sorry, not trying to hurt your feelings, just saying you can see Drummond hasn't got down syndrome but he's near the line.

[Pharaoh]

It's sad how delusional some of our posters are about Dre. It's sad because I understand the frustration and how some people refuse to accept only their own view of reality. It's because they're fans of this team and they really want to believe in our future.

But guys, it is what it is, and some of these posters simply don't have the IQ to understand some aspects of the game. Damn, you can see it in their posts that they're trying to understand what's happening. They're suffering because they can't read what they see happening on the floor, or acknowledge assessments other than those that fit their preconceived notions.

(Condescension is an ugly thing.)

Wow, I'm sorry, not trying to hurt your feelings, just saying you can see Drummond hasn't got down syndrome but he's near the line.

WTF?

There's plenty of people with Down Syndrome that have great lives, get married, have kids and make their way in the world despite clowns like you looking down on them like you're superior

Choose your insults wisely dude.

And FTR: Drummond is on a MAX contract - if he's not the smartest guy in the room it's not gonna matter much

What I did find interesting in his response to reporters asking about trade rumours: ain't no point did he mention winning!

He said he's here to play ball, with his guys and lead the team - but at no point did he say "I'm here to win games and if I'm not here I'll win games somewhere else"

It's his mentality that holds him back and that's a small window into it.

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[In SVG We Trust]

How is an insult to say a "normal" guy (and see normal like a statistical data) should have a higher IQ than a down syndrome person? I don't like to talk about my personal life but I donated like $9000 to a down syndrome association.

[Snakebites]

Why are we talking about Down Syndrome in this thread.

Using real disabilities that people actually struggle with as insults is never okay. Lets get this topic back on track please.

[Pharaoh]

It's sad how delusional some of our posters are about Dre. It's sad because I understand the frustration and how some people refuse to accept only their own view of reality. It's because they're fans of this team and they really want to believe in our future.

But guys, it is what it is, and some of these posters simply don't have the IQ to understand some aspects of the game. Damn, you can see it in their posts that they're trying to understand what's happening. They're suffering because they can't read what they see happening on the floor, or acknowledge assessments other than those that fit their preconceived notions.

(Condescension is an ugly thing.)

Wow, I'm sorry, not trying to hurt your feelings, just saying you can see Drummond hasn't got down syndrome but he's near the line.

That's not saying he's a normal guy and should have a higher IQ than someone with down syndrome dude

That's saying Dre hasn't got down syndrome but he's near the line

As Snake said why bring a real disease into this? Choose your insults more wisely

And it's irrelevant how much you donate if you go around saying "This guy! Damn near got down syndrome" like it's something to be ashamed of

Any genetic disease sucks! People don't do anything to inflict it upon themselves - they're just unlucky!

As opposed to a drug fiend that CHOOSES it, or an alcoholic that chooses it

Yes I realise addiction is a disease too but one side has choices and one side doesnt



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[In SVG We Trust]

I forget we're living in the political correct era. You win guys, I'm not fighting against the soft mod and the sensitive snitch.

[Pharaoh]

I forget we're living in the political correct era. You win guys, I'm not fighting against the soft mod and the sensitive snitch.

Hold the **** up bro.

Snitch? Explain to me how I'm a snitch?

Do you know what that word implies?

Explain or shut the **** up before I go all keyboard warrior on you like it's 10 years ago

You think cause you throw insults around at random that it makes you awesome or something - 10 years ago I was serving up Raptor fans on the hour & Pacer fans once a week.

My old sig here used to be Samuel L Jackson from Pulp Fiction with the quote "And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you" (shout out to my man No Quarter for it)

You've been trailing my posts for a while now and you like to throw barbs so lets hear it mate:

How am I a snitch?

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No surprise there. I still wouldn't advocate trading him. It doesn't look like Detroit is going to get much for him right now, and if SVG can get him to adjust his game to his strengths and drop the terrible post up game, he could be a really nice player to have. You can't build a team around him, that much is painfully obvious. But, he can be a great contributor on a good team. It's the other 14 guys I'm not too high on.

[Blkbrd671]

you guys see that tweet and act like Dre has shown nothing but what those stats say. As bad as Dre has been, he actually has shown improvment from years past, while its a step and not the leap we hoped. HE'S F* 23 YEARS OLD, his best years are still ahead of him. We'd all like to see a lot better from him, but arguing that we should sell low on him just because you don't understand development and lack patience is not a valid reason.

Unless we are getting a franchise changing talent , which is what dre is, we don't move him. and honestly it would have to be franchise changing+

[Pharaoh]

I can only imagine 5 years from now, when Drummond is fully in his prime...

Will he still be here?

Like it or not he's a rare specimen! Guys that big should not be that athletic

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