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Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST

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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#141 » by Moses ShamMoses » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:49 pm

Billl wrote:
Moses ShamMoses wrote:I'm so low on SJ, I would totally trade him for Hezonja right now. I don't even care he is unrestricted next year. 8 threes from Hezonja last night. It's sad that a good game for SJ is he hits a single three...


Glad you aren't the GM. Prior to last night, the guy had 11 made 3's on the season. He's been a complete bust.

And SJ hasn't looked good, but he's already got 5 games with multiple 3's this year. No need to make him out to be worse than he really is.



Mario hasn't gotten consistent minutes to be able to make multiple 3's while Johnson has. He is shooting 44% from the field and 40% from 3 on the season. Yes its skewed due to last nights barrage but he has a much nicer looking shot than Johnson. Honestly, Mario is a better prospect at this point than Johnson, that is why i make the trade.

And how is Johnson not a bust based on his performance this year? Have you seen his shooting percetages? Its epic bad. Both guys need a change of scenery.
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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#142 » by Billl » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:30 pm

Mario's ONLY skill is that he can shoot. He's never going to be an impact player. SJ can be an impact defender right now. His offense has been horrid, no doubt about that.
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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#143 » by GreekAlex » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:54 pm

Billl wrote:Mario's ONLY skill is that he can shoot. He's never going to be an impact player. SJ can be an impact defender right now. His offense has been horrid, no doubt about that.


At least someone like Marcus Smart can get hot and you can imagine them becoming more consistent.

Why can't SJ even cut hard like Bullock?
Is it because defenders don't respect his shot?
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Post#144 » by vege » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:14 pm

Billl wrote:Mario's ONLY skill is that he can shoot. He's never going to be an impact player. SJ can be an impact defender right now. His offense has been horrid, no doubt about that.


He tried to put the ball on the ground and finish around the rim a couple of times and failed badly, however his shot was unguardable, SVG tried everything, Tolliver did a great job on guys like KD and Griffin but he couldn't do **** to slow down Hezonja yesterday.
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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#145 » by Billl » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:21 pm

GreekAlex wrote:
Billl wrote:Mario's ONLY skill is that he can shoot. He's never going to be an impact player. SJ can be an impact defender right now. His offense has been horrid, no doubt about that.


At least someone like Marcus Smart can get hot and you can imagine them becoming more consistent.

Why can't SJ even cut hard like Bullock?
Is it because defenders don't respect his shot?


Anyone can move without the ball. He sees the floor pretty well when he has the ball, but he's just got a really bad ball watching habit. Somehow, he looks much better on busted plays and in transition than he does when we are actually running a set.
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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#146 » by mattao313 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:13 pm

Stanley was my guy that draft but he's a bust guy can't even make slightly contested layups most nights.
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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#147 » by afroxnas » Tue Dec 19, 2017 2:27 pm

Stanley has almost no lift, which his surprising for a guy with his athleticism. This really limits his ability to finish around the basket. I wonder if dropping 10-20 pounds would improve this. Could be something to look for next offseason
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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#148 » by Drwho17 » Tue Dec 19, 2017 6:01 pm

I doubt Stanley Johnson is going to be around next season, I think I would trade him for just about anybody. Swapping for Hezonja, I'd even do, at least he can shoot. Good change of scenery for two busts from that draft.
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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#149 » by Moses ShamMoses » Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:22 pm

Mario would be a boon for Johnson at this point. Its year 3 and he still looks like a d-leaguer even thought he's been gifted starters minutes (Cant say we didn't try to develop him).
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Re: Game 30: Pistons (16-13) vs Magic (11-19) - 4 PM EST 

Post#150 » by GreekAlex » Tue Dec 19, 2017 10:07 pm

I just saw and interview where SVG admitted pulling Luke too quickly.

Glad to see him take note and hopefully adapt moving forward.

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