Game 58: Detroit Pistons (27-30) @ Miami Heat (26-31)

[BadMofoPimp]

You and a couple others are missing the point. It doesn't matter when the comment was posted. If you bitch about a guy continuing to get minutes and he goes out and then scores 17 points in 16 minutes on 6-7 shooting, you look a bit silly. I don't care if the guy does it once a month, you still look a bit silly bitching about him getting playing time right before he lights it up. What's the coach supposed to do--never play him again?

Basically don't ever make a single negative comment about the Pistons or it's players ever again because they might score on the next play and make you look silly. Manocad logic.

Compared to your logic that if you don't like a player he should never play, and if you like a player he should always play, because you know better than the coach? Yeah, I feel comparatively healthy.

You always play the hot hand. unfortunately, sometimes the cold hand gets played as well.

[afroxnas]

Basically don't ever make a single negative comment about the Pistons or it's players ever again because they might score on the next play and make you look silly. Manocad logic.

Compared to your logic that if you don't like a player he should never play, and if you like a player he should always play, because you know better than the coach? Yeah, I feel comparatively healthy.

You always play the hot hand. unfortunately, sometimes the cold hand gets played as well.

Pistons are playing well, everyone is clicking and the Ws are pilling. Just enjoy the ride guys. It’s not like it happens on a regular basis...

[Snakebites]

If I'm honest part of me is upset that Langston went nuts yesterday, because it makes it more likely we'll see him in the next game, and earlier. He was starting to fall out of the rotation and I thought that was a good thing.

[potatoaim]

Another good win. No surprise that this hot streak coincides with RJ looking like an NBA player again. If everyone stays healthy, id say playoffs are a near lock at this point.

[Manocad]

I didn't agree with the guy's comment because what we've seen Langston do in an instant (and of course tonight) but did you pay attention to when he posted it?

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You and a couple others are missing the point. It doesn't matter when the comment was posted. If you bitch about a guy continuing to get minutes and he goes out and then scores 17 points in 16 minutes on 6-7 shooting, you look a bit silly. I don't care if the guy does it once a month, you still look a bit silly bitching about him getting playing time right before he lights it up. What's the coach supposed to do--never play him again?

Ahhhhhh gotcha, you're right. Man we should've never cut Ellenson, because maybe one day he'll actually hit a 3 pointer and make people look silly. FOH fam.

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Yeah, that's an apt comparison. Put down the pipe, dude.

[Manocad]

Basically don't ever make a single negative comment about the Pistons or it's players ever again because they might score on the next play and make you look silly. Manocad logic.

Compared to your logic that if you don't like a player he should never play, and if you like a player he should always play, because you know better than the coach? Yeah, I feel comparatively healthy.

Maybe for you it's about who you "like". To me (and maybe others around here), it's because he is horrible 9 times out of 10. I'd rather see just about anyone else get those minutes than play the Langston Lottery.

No, for me it's NOT about who I like and don't like; that was my point. It's about who can play and if you're seriously going to say that Galloway plays horrible 90% of the time then YOU'RE the one with a dislike issue. I'm by no means a Galloway fan but I'm not going to claim that I know better than the coach, and the fact remains that talking smack about why a guy should be playing right before he lights it up looks stupid. He had three bad games in a row? Like no other player ever has? Like I said, what was supposed to happen? He never plays again?

[Snakebites]

Compared to your logic that if you don't like a player he should never play, and if you like a player he should always play, because you know better than the coach? Yeah, I feel comparatively healthy.

Maybe for you it's about who you "like". To me (and maybe others around here), it's because he is horrible 9 times out of 10. I'd rather see just about anyone else get those minutes than play the Langston Lottery.

No, for me it's NOT about who I like and don't like; that was my point. It's about who can play and if you're seriously going to say that Galloway plays horrible 90% of the time then YOU'RE the one with a dislike issue. I'm by no means a Galloway fan but I'm not going to claim that I know better than the coach, and the fact remains that talking smack about why a guy should be playing right before he lights it up looks stupid. He had three bad games in a row? Like no other player ever has? Like I said, what was supposed to happen? He never plays again?

For me I'd point to his overall statistical output throughout his time as a Piston as evidence that he shouldn't be playing, alongside the fact that he's a 6-2 guard who can neither play nor defend the point. I'd think I have a pretty solid case on that basis without getting into personal dislike at all.

Sure, he'll light it up on occasion. Doesn't mean one is a fool for not thinking he should play.

[BadMofoPimp]

Another good win. No surprise that this hot streak coincides with RJ looking like an NBA player again. If everyone stays healthy, id say playoffs are a near lock at this point.

Odds are 84%

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2019-nba-predictions/

[BadMofoPimp]

Compared to your logic that if you don't like a player he should never play, and if you like a player he should always play, because you know better than the coach? Yeah, I feel comparatively healthy.

Maybe for you it's about who you "like". To me (and maybe others around here), it's because he is horrible 9 times out of 10. I'd rather see just about anyone else get those minutes than play the Langston Lottery.

No, for me it's NOT about who I like and don't like; that was my point. It's about who can play and if you're seriously going to say that Galloway plays horrible 90% of the time then YOU'RE the one with a dislike issue. I'm by no means a Galloway fan but I'm not going to claim that I know better than the coach, and the fact remains that talking smack about why a guy should be playing right before he lights it up looks stupid. He had three bad games in a row? Like no other player ever has? Like I said, what was supposed to happen? He never plays again?

As if coaches play players based off of Shooting percentages. There is much more to what a player does on the court that is not shown by stats.

Now, if the coach only gave him minutes on nights where he is lighting it up and sat him when he didn't, I bet his trade value would rise for some team thinking he would look better with more minutes is their way of thinking.

[Manocad]

Maybe for you it's about who you "like". To me (and maybe others around here), it's because he is horrible 9 times out of 10. I'd rather see just about anyone else get those minutes than play the Langston Lottery.

No, for me it's NOT about who I like and don't like; that was my point. It's about who can play and if you're seriously going to say that Galloway plays horrible 90% of the time then YOU'RE the one with a dislike issue. I'm by no means a Galloway fan but I'm not going to claim that I know better than the coach, and the fact remains that talking smack about why a guy should be playing right before he lights it up looks stupid. He had three bad games in a row? Like no other player ever has? Like I said, what was supposed to happen? He never plays again?

For me I'd point to his overall statistical output throughout his time as a Piston as evidence that he shouldn't be playing, alongside the fact that he's a 6-2 guard who can neither play nor defend the point. I'd think I have a pretty solid case on that basis without getting into personal dislike at all.

Sure, he'll light it up on occasion. Doesn't mean one is a fool for not thinking he should play.

The problem here is that no one yet has presented an alternative, thus it absolutely comes off as just a personal dislike. If the argument is that he should be dropped from the roster and/or get a CD-DNP every game, make it. That helps to justify the claim that the team is better off if he doesn't play.

[Manocad]

Maybe for you it's about who you "like". To me (and maybe others around here), it's because he is horrible 9 times out of 10. I'd rather see just about anyone else get those minutes than play the Langston Lottery.

No, for me it's NOT about who I like and don't like; that was my point. It's about who can play and if you're seriously going to say that Galloway plays horrible 90% of the time then YOU'RE the one with a dislike issue. I'm by no means a Galloway fan but I'm not going to claim that I know better than the coach, and the fact remains that talking smack about why a guy should be playing right before he lights it up looks stupid. He had three bad games in a row? Like no other player ever has? Like I said, what was supposed to happen? He never plays again?

As if coaches play players based off of Shooting percentages. There is much more to what a player does on the court that is not shown by stats.

Now, if the coach only gave him minutes on nights where he is lighting it up and sat him when he didn't, I bet his trade value would rise for some team thinking he would look better with more minutes is their way of thinking.

The other part that seems to be disregarded is that no matter how bad Galloway is, he's currently part of a 12 man roster. If the team is truly better off without him and going with 11 guys, then I'd like to see the argument as to how the team is better off with Galloway not playing another minute. Plus as you said, if you want to get rid of him you have to try to demonstrate that he some kind of value somehow, and burying him on the bench doesn't do that.

[DetroitSho]

You and a couple others are missing the point. It doesn't matter when the comment was posted. If you bitch about a guy continuing to get minutes and he goes out and then scores 17 points in 16 minutes on 6-7 shooting, you look a bit silly. I don't care if the guy does it once a month, you still look a bit silly bitching about him getting playing time right before he lights it up. What's the coach supposed to do--never play him again?

Ahhhhhh gotcha, you're right. Man we should've never cut Ellenson, because maybe one day he'll actually hit a 3 pointer and make people look silly. FOH fam.

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Yeah, that's an apt comparison. Put down the pipe, dude.

Ohhhhhhh put down the piiiiiiiiiiiiiipe. Ouuuuuch. Never heard that one before. Cool story.

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[hoophabit]

A good road win, even though the Heat were down a couple guys. It was a BTB. Team showed some chemistry? (I'm as shocked as you.) Pistons have a number of wings who are supposed to be able to shoot from distance. I suppose the coach will check to them when looking for shooting, and ride the hot hand when he finds it. Some nights there's no finding it. Still, the braintrust might have left the team with a better overall competency of outside shooting, even though parting with the best shooter in the trades/ Geez, at least it's interesting, which is better than already evaluating where this season went wrong?

[srt4b]

Galloyway has scored between 0-5 points in 25 games this year. We are 9-16 in those games.
He has been scoreless in 12 games. We are 4-8 in those games.
He has scored over 15 8 times. We are 4-4 in those games.

I don't know what any of that means.

[7r5ur]

Compared to your logic that if you don't like a player he should never play, and if you like a player he should always play, because you know better than the coach? Yeah, I feel comparatively healthy.

Maybe for you it's about who you "like". To me (and maybe others around here), it's because he is horrible 9 times out of 10. I'd rather see just about anyone else get those minutes than play the Langston Lottery.

No, for me it's NOT about who I like and don't like; that was my point. It's about who can play and if you're seriously going to say that Galloway plays horrible 90% of the time then YOU'RE the one with a dislike issue. I'm by no means a Galloway fan but I'm not going to claim that I know better than the coach, and the fact remains that talking smack about why a guy should be playing right before he lights it up looks stupid. He had three bad games in a row? Like no other player ever has? Like I said, what was supposed to happen? He never plays again?

Ok, so "horrible" may be pushing it just slightly. But the fact that he has games like this where he can't miss every few weeks, but he still is only shooting 37%, would indicate that those other games (the vast majority), are really ugly.

When shooting is the only thing you do, and you do it that inconsistently, there's no reason to be in an NBA rotation.

He shot 34% in January. Before last night he had shot 25% in the first 7 games of February (now up to 34%).

You don't have to cut him. He's fine for insurance. Plus he'll never be tradeable based on his abilities (maybe the expiring)... But I'd rather see anyone else get the minutes he's getting. Khyri, Svi, Kennard, Bruce, Ellington, etc. Langston's had hundreds of chances to disappoint us.

[Cowology]

I really liked our movement with Ish in the game. Dude was playing great; getting where he wanted and making shots/plays, but the entire team was moving well. You'd see us come down and run the same play 2-3 times in a row with solid execution. Everybody was active.

We just don't get that with Reggie. Even when he's "playing well" it feels like something he is doing individually instead of team execution and the level of engagement from the rest of our roster reflects that on both ends of the floor.

[rmfc]

Nice win.

Good to see Reggie getting some of his confidence back.