Tanking 101: How to execute the proper small-market rebuild.

[blueadams]

Philly’s now got a big-4 of Simmons, Embiid, Butler and Tobias. And that’s you genius’s example of how I’m wrong and tanking doesn’t work???

Shut up and go away.

[BadMofoPimp]

Tanking 101 rules number 1 thru 10

1) Pray to God that you get lucky
2) Pray to God that you get lucky
3) Pray to God that you get lucky
4) Pray to God that you get lucky
5) Pray to God that you get lucky
6) Pray to God that you get lucky
7) Pray to God that you get lucky
8) Pray to God that you get lucky
9) Pray to God that you get lucky
10) Pray to God that you get lucky

There is no science to it. Just some GM getting lucky if he gets a star player or getting canned when he doesn't get a star. 9 times out of 10, team ends up perrenial middle of the road team.

Only one team has ever truly tanked. They spent 4 of their 5 picks on 3 centers and a guard who'll likely never play another NBA game. Still got two top-10 players out of it, in spite of their complete idiocy.

You're absolutely, completely, utterly and thoroughly incorrect. Sorry.

I still count MCW, Fultz and Nerlens Noel as part of that tank. In addition, without Embiid, they would now suck arse being worse than the Pistons.

Hence, the Sixers were SUPER LUCKY that Bucks didn't take Embiid before the Sixers and that Embiid panned out after a year out due to injury. Otherwise, NOBODY would be talking about how great the Sixers turned out. Pure Luck.

So, what you are asking is that the team suck arse for 5 straight years being one of the top 3 worst teams in the entire NBA just so that they may get lucky that one time and draft one superstar player. It hasn't worked out for most teams who tank. Most end up mediocre. Wouldn't it suck to tank for 3-5 seasons and end up in the same exact spot we are in now? Sounds like a genius no fail move.

[blueadams]

Tanking 101 rules number 1 thru 10

1) Pray to God that you get lucky
2) Pray to God that you get lucky
3) Pray to God that you get lucky
4) Pray to God that you get lucky
5) Pray to God that you get lucky
6) Pray to God that you get lucky
7) Pray to God that you get lucky
8) Pray to God that you get lucky
9) Pray to God that you get lucky
10) Pray to God that you get lucky

There is no science to it. Just some GM getting lucky if he gets a star player or getting canned when he doesn't get a star. 9 times out of 10, team ends up perrenial middle of the road team.

Only one team has ever truly tanked. They spent 4 of their 5 picks on 3 centers and a guard who'll likely never play another NBA game. Still got two top-10 players out of it, in spite of their complete idiocy.

You're absolutely, completely, utterly and thoroughly incorrect. Sorry.

I still count MCW, Fultz and Nerlens Noel as part of that tank. In addition, without Embiid, they would now suck arse being worse than the Pistons.

Hence, the Sixers were SUPER LUCKY that Bucks didn't take Embiid before the Sixers and that Embiid panned out after a year out due to injury. Otherwise, NOBODY would be talking about how great the Sixers turned out. Pure Luck.

So, what you are asking is that the team suck arse for 5 straight years being one of the top 3 worst teams in the entire NBA just so that they may get lucky that one time and draft one superstar player. It hasn't worked out for most teams who tank. Most end up mediocre. Wouldn't it suck to tank for 3-5 seasons and end up in the same exact spot we are in now? Sounds like a genius no fail move.

Are you completely and utterly mental???

Embiid isn't even their best player. Not even close.

And Wiggins and Parker were 1-2 all the way in that draft. If Parker hadn't gotten hurt, who knows what could've been for him. There was no "good luck" whatsoever.

They completely, absolutely, idiotically blew 3 of their 5 top-6 picks (or 4 of their 6, if you want to include MCW for some reason??) and still ended up as the front-runners to win the East in 2019.

There's no "luck" about it. They had terrible "luck". 60% of their picks were horrible. That's "horrible luck". And look at them now...

Simmons, probably the best young player in the game period.
Embiid, arguably the best center in the game already, at 24.
Jimmy Butler.
Tobias Harris.

You're wrong and you're just more wrong every time you speak. Go away.

[BadMofoPimp]

Only one team has ever truly tanked. They spent 4 of their 5 picks on 3 centers and a guard who'll likely never play another NBA game. Still got two top-10 players out of it, in spite of their complete idiocy.

You're absolutely, completely, utterly and thoroughly incorrect. Sorry.

I still count MCW, Fultz and Nerlens Noel as part of that tank. In addition, without Embiid, they would now suck arse being worse than the Pistons.

Hence, the Sixers were SUPER LUCKY that Bucks didn't take Embiid before the Sixers and that Embiid panned out after a year out due to injury. Otherwise, NOBODY would be talking about how great the Sixers turned out. Pure Luck.

So, what you are asking is that the team suck arse for 5 straight years being one of the top 3 worst teams in the entire NBA just so that they may get lucky that one time and draft one superstar player. It hasn't worked out for most teams who tank. Most end up mediocre. Wouldn't it suck to tank for 3-5 seasons and end up in the same exact spot we are in now? Sounds like a genius no fail move.

Are you completely and utterly mental???

Embiid isn't even their best player. Not even close.

And Wiggins and Parker were 1-2 all the way in that draft. If Parker hadn't gotten hurt, who knows what could've been for him. There was no "good luck" whatsoever.

They completely, absolutely, idiotically blew 3 of their 5 top-6 picks (or 4 of their 6, if you want to include MCW for some reason??) and still ended up as the front-runners to win the East in 2019.

There's no "luck" about it. They had terrible "luck". 60% of their picks were horrible. That's "horrible luck". And look at them now...

Simmons, probably the best young player in the game period.
Embiid, arguably the best center in the game already, at 24.
Jimmy Butler.
Tobias Harris.

You're wrong and you're just more wrong every time you speak. Go away.

Stop living in dream land. Simmons is way overrated who can't shoot and has trouble scoring. Sixers suck alot when Embiid out because Embiid is bordering Superstar level. And, the Sixers would not have traded for Butler or Harris or even obtained Reddick if Embiid didn't break out. This is not a video game!

[Canadafan]

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nba/pistons/2019/03/09/detroit-pistons-front-office/3102698002/

[potatoaim]

This thread certainly didnt age well. Thankfully the front office didnt follow op's idiotic plan...

[El Chivo]

This thread certainly didnt age well. Thankfully the front office didnt follow op's idiotic plan...

You sure?

[buzzkilloton]

This thread certainly didnt age well. Thankfully the front office didnt follow op's idiotic plan...

Us being in contention for the 6 seed in the East makes rebuilding an idiotic plan? Not everybody is content with a 1st round playoff exit ceiling for a team.

[Billl]

The plan isn't idiotic. It's just a rehash of what 10 other teams are doing. Tanking is probably the #1 thing talked about on NBA forums for the past 10 years now. The odds of it working have always been extremely low, but they are even worse now that half the league is trying to lose. It's like saying we should build a team full of multi-skill guys who are elite shooters and play great defense. Ok, great. Everyone wants to be the warriors, but those guys are in very short supply.

[potatoaim]

This thread certainly didnt age well. Thankfully the front office didnt follow op's idiotic plan...

Us being in contention for the 6 seed in the East makes rebuilding an idiotic plan? Not everybody is content with a 1st round playoff exit ceiling for a team.

Trading basically the entire team for "whatever I can get" is not only completely unrealistic, its completely idiotic...

[potatoaim]

This thread certainly didnt age well. Thankfully the front office didnt follow op's idiotic plan...

You sure?

uhhh....yea...im sure.... because they lost 2 games the "trade the entire team for whatever" tank should be on? lol...ok.

[buzzkilloton]

This thread certainly didnt age well. Thankfully the front office didnt follow op's idiotic plan...

Us being in contention for the 6 seed in the East makes rebuilding an idiotic plan? Not everybody is content with a 1st round playoff exit ceiling for a team.

Trading basically the entire team for "whatever I can get" is not only completely unrealistic, its completely idiotic...

I'd much rather tear it down with the goal being a championship in the next decade rather than chase first-round playoff exits for the next 5 years. Not all fans enjoy mediocrity.

[El Chivo]

This thread certainly didnt age well. Thankfully the front office didnt follow op's idiotic plan...

You sure?

uhhh....yea...im sure.... because they lost 2 games the "trade the entire team for whatever" tank should be on? lol...ok.

I'm ok with being a good treadmill team like Indiana... the problem is we are a mediocre treadmill team and someone is enjoying it.

[Wallace_Wallace]

Like.. what? What is your deal?

Do you need a crystal ball to know it’s stupid to draft centers in the top-6 3 yrs in a row?? In a league where the C position is now the least important on the floor.

You do realize that your plan was to potentially draft 3 centers in a row too. Steven adams, Embid, and porzingis.

You are just using hindsight to pick the best players in the draft. You can do the same thing without even tanking. Instead of KCP, we pick Giannis. Instead of Stanley, we pick booker. Instead of Luke, we pick mitchell. So we role out Mitchell, Booker, Giannis, Blake, and Dre and dominate the east.

Dude, no. I’m not gonna just sit here and listen to / accept your bs responses.

Hindsight my arse.

I was on record about 50 times saying Giannis was the #1 player in the ‘13 draft. The first time I ever saw that scratchy tape of his I said “he’s a bigger, stronger Dr. J; I’d take him #1 overall.”

Next draft, in the Sixers spot, I would’ve for sure taken Embiid. The highest-ranked pure shooter in that class was Stauskas; who clearly didn’t project as an average defender. Perfect draft to take the top ranked C on the board.

The next draft, in the Sixers spot, I certainly wouldn’t have drafted another center. Highest rated guy on the board was a sweet-shooting stretch 4 I loved named Porzingis. Next pick in the draft.

Next draft, in the Sixers spot, Simmons was the most clear-cut #1 pick since LeBron James.

Next draft, in the Sixers spot, with Simmons (and Giannis) on the roster, I definitely wouldn’t have taken another guard who couldn’t shoot (Fultz or Ball). Next guy on the board would obviously have been the sweet-shooting defensively capable #3 pick Jayson Tatum.

C: Embiid
PF: Porzingis
SF: Giannis
SG: Tatum
PG: Simmons

No hindsight required. Just some basic brains to execute the awesome plan the 76ers had.

And if those guys started winning too many games as teenagers—rest. Games off. Restricted minutes. Etc. Keep young developing bodies healthy.

You are definitely hindsighting the **** out of things. Fultz in Washington can get any shot off, there is a reason that he's ranked that high on the draft along with Lonzo Ball. Porzingis was a relatively unknown prospect, remember Knicks fans booed the hell out of him on draft night because they didn't know who he was? Somehow the Sixers, or the Lakers would know he was going to be a unicorn?

Yeah, Giannis that's hilarious.

[ChipButty]

Lakers had the #2 overall pick in 2015, 2016, and 2017. They also added Lebron. News flash. They still suck!

[El Chivo]

Don't understand why people around here talk about a 50% capped out team as a successful project, though.