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Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM

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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#121 » by Uncle Mxy » Fri Oct 25, 2019 12:31 pm

edmunder_prc wrote:Morris has been pretty bad both games. Hopefully he gets it together. Hes supposed to be a guy the team can rely on when Blake doesnt play but so far hes like a 3rd string guy you hope to get anything at all out of. Thats not how he was sold to us.

I'd like to see Wood starting in his place, or at least getting serious minutes.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#122 » by pistonsbball » Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:18 pm

Reggie is such an all or nothing player. He's actually pretty good when healthy and in rhythm, but anything less and he's a damn liability out there. Would go Frazier/Rose until Reggie is actually 100%.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#123 » by Sort » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:19 pm

pistonsbball wrote:Reggie is such an all or nothing player. He's actually pretty good when healthy and in rhythm, but anything less and he's a damn liability out there. Would go Frazier/Rose until Reggie is actually 100%.



I agree - mostly. In terms of last night, a healthy Reggie would have been in the upper twenties or lower thirties and we would be going, "See, he can play well." He does well with teams that float the idea of perimeter defense than actually doing it.

The truth is that he just can get the rim much anymore, even when healthy, which doesn't make him useless - it just means he should be coming in off the bench.

We have Frazier. It is time right now to let Reggie rest and see what Frazier can do. You need to start Kennard and Frazier and just let it fly. Rose needs to keep his sixth man role. I'm cool even with just letting Brown being the starting one with Kennard. See if it works, because Reggie isn't, and Rose is working extraordinary as a sixth man.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#124 » by Han Solo » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:35 pm

I think Rose will be starting at some point.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#125 » by NYPiston » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:36 pm

Not upset at all about the result. The idiotic schedule had them on a back to back to start the season, they were down 2 starters and really 3 since Morris is clearly hobbled so the odds were stacked against them.

You can't have Frazier playing regular minutes and expect to be successful, not to mention Black Hole Brown (not sure what they see in this guy). Rose and Drummond were gassed in the 4th quarter as was Kennard. This was one of trash it games and move on to the next one.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#126 » by Moses ShamMoses » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:43 pm

I'm sold on Rose the player but I'm still not sure he will be a good investment if he can't stay healthy. Time will tell with him. He clearly is a top 15 starting point guard in this league. I'm drawn to investing more time with Bruce Brown as point guard with D-Rose being the backup. I think,one way or another, I'm ready to move on from the Reggie Jackson era.
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Post#127 » by MotownMadness » Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:45 pm

Id like to make a Reggie for Iggy swap. Both expirings and Iggy would help our crummy wing situation with his defense and playmaking.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#128 » by MrBigShot » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:14 pm

Dear blake, get well soon
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#129 » by DTP » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:39 pm

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pistonsbball wrote:Reggie is such an all or nothing player. He's actually pretty good when healthy and in rhythm, but anything less and he's a damn liability out there. Would go Frazier/Rose until Reggie is actually 100%.



I agree - mostly. In terms of last night, a healthy Reggie would have been in the upper twenties or lower thirties and we would be going, "See, he can play well." He does well with teams that float the idea of perimeter defense than actually doing it.

The truth is that he just can get the rim much anymore, even when healthy, which doesn't make him useless - it just means he should be coming in off the bench.

We have Frazier. It is time right now to let Reggie rest and see what Frazier can do. You need to start Kennard and Frazier and just let it fly. Rose needs to keep his sixth man role. I'm cool even with just letting Brown being the starting one with Kennard. See if it works, because Reggie isn't, and Rose is working extraordinary as a sixth man.


The problem with this roster is that there are so many guys asked to play out of position or do more than their skillset is that it makes them all look horrible. Frazier is a great third string pg, he's not a starter and you definitely can't start him in same backcourt as offensive genius Brown or defensive limited Kennard. Kennard and Snell are constantly asked to guard bigger guys, setting them up go be defensive liabilities. Reggie or Rose starts.

I do like reggie coming off the bench because it's important for him to have shooters around him but Rose needs shooters too, you ain't surviving against starting fives with 3 guys in the lineup that can't shoot. Basically, it all comes down to we desperately need a 3 & D small forward.....desperately. Have to wonder if Gallaway + 30th pick would've been enough for a Jae Crowder type.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#130 » by DetroitPistons » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:40 pm

With Jackson's injury issues and Rose's success, I think it would be reasonable to start Rose. If that happens that means Kennard should start too since he supposed to be Rose's running mate. A Rose/Kennard/Snell/Griffin/Drummond starting 5 looks much more exciting.
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Post#131 » by Billl » Fri Oct 25, 2019 5:57 pm

Rose is by far the most talented and impactful pg on the roster. The problem is that you can't play him starters minutes for 82 games.

It's really unfortunate that blake is hurt. It's going to keep us from being able to make a bunch of other lineup decisions. Without blake, we really need some more scoring from the starting unit. Do you swap in Luke for 8 games to get better balance, or do you let him build some chemistry with Rose? I might be tempted to start LG. He doesn't seem to mind having his minutes and roll yanked around a bit and it might help his trade value if we get him some more looks.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#132 » by Canadafan » Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:27 pm

MotownMadness wrote:Id like to make a Reggie for Iggy swap. Both expirings and Iggy would help our crummy wing situation with his defense and playmaking.


Yep or for Marcus Morris :D
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#133 » by Manocad » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:08 pm

I told you they’d come home and drop a deuce.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#134 » by ComboGuardCity » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:30 pm

DBC10 wrote:
dVs33 wrote:How about we just agree that he's improving? Haha
ComboGuardCity wrote:I mean....you are more than welcome to show me evidence substantiating your claim. As of now, I’m going to go off multiple years vs preseason and guarding a 2nd year player who can’t shoot.


That and Trae Young is just good. I thought them passing up Luka for Trae + Pick would be a diasaster, but it's looking like he's the future of the guards. If he can become what Curry became on defense (steal maestro/passing lanes) then they're going to be absolutely thrilled.

This loss on a B2B. On to the next one. Sucks that the offense doesn't seem to move a whole lot, other than dump the ball to Dre to make him do something or give the ball to Rose and pray.

Don’t get me wrong. Trae is an elite prospect and at the very least will be an offensive superstar. I wish we had Trae. However, he will always be a huge liability on 1:1 defense. He’s not as athletic as Curry is. He was one of the worst defenders last year and it wasn’t really an effort issue. The hawks however know that and are loading up the team with versatile athletic players around him. They’re gonna be a fun team this year and a force to be reckoned with.
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#135 » by mattao313 » Fri Oct 25, 2019 10:43 pm

Bruce Brown is useless. He got abused
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Re: Game 2: Atlanta Hawks 0-0 @ Detroit Pistons 1-0 Thu. 7PM 

Post#136 » by Crymson » Fri Oct 25, 2019 11:39 pm

Casey was awful. He's not a good coach.

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