Would you trade #7 to Boston for #14, #26, and #30?

[thesack12]

If Detroit makes this move, nothing says that they would be locked into #14/#26/#30. They can definitely look at making a secondary move.

Say maybe Kennard/#30 to Phoenix for #10. Which would leave Detroit with 10, 14, 26. I would actually be thrilled with this.

Another possibility is that as the draft moves on the cost to move up becomes cheaper. So Detroit could look to package #26/30 to move up somewhere into the teens.

Point is, if they do this move with Boston that doesn't mean they would have to be done. There are always options out there if you have hold tradeable commodities.

As much as I'd love Weaver to use this Draft as his night out I don't think it happens.

Let's say we go with the Boston package.

14, 26 & 30

Then Luke for 21, 36 & 49 from Philly.

Package 26, 30 & 49 to ORL for 15

14, 15, 21, 36 are what we're left with.

According to Tankathon's Mock Draft we could walk away with:

14 = Pat Williams F
15 = R.J Hampton G/F
21 = Tyrell Terry PG
36 = Xavier Tillman C

Throw Sekou, Wood, Brown, Svi (Blake & DRose) around them and we're young and potentially loaded.

We'd lose a lot next season and land a top 5 pick

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[NYPiston]

I'd do it.

This is where you put a lot of trust in your scouts. Get more tickets to accumulate talent for a franchise that is a wasteland of talent currently. This draft is a crapshoot, the perfect draft to trade down. They probably get somebody like Hampton at 14 (who they like apparently) and have two 1sts on top of that. Hailburton or Hayes aren't good enough to pass up on a deal like this IMO. The drop from 7-14 isn't that steep.

Then after the draft, Weaver should be looking at accumulating 2021 draft picks (strong draft) to take on bad contracts so they can free up money for a much stronger 2021 FA class. It really is a perfect storm for a team like the Pistons to fill the cupboard with lots of young talent with COVID probably flattening the cap and the strong free agent class (potentially) forcing teams to clear cap. Of course knowing our luck, Weaver will exhaust the cap space on free agents.

[Laimbeer]

The value tilts our way a bit according to draft value cards.

There's a decent drop from 7 to 14 and those lower picks in this draft could end up costing you cap for guys that can't play.

[DetroitDon15]

The value tilts our way a bit according to draft value cards.

There's a decent drop from 7 to 14 and those lower picks in this draft could end up costing you cap for guys that can't play.

Pretty much how I feel on the draft. I’d rather stay put than trade down. Last thing is we need to give out deals to guys who won’t be able to play.

[thesack12]

The value tilts our way a bit according to draft value cards.

There's a decent drop from 7 to 14 and those lower picks in this draft could end up costing you cap for guys that can't play.

I honestly don't see the problem, cap wise. 2 picks in the high 20's are going to cost you a combined $3-4 mil a season total.

If they don't work out, you simply decline their 3rd year options. So its only a 2 year commitment. Unless a rookie proves to just be utterly hopeless, the vast majority of guys are going to be kept at least 2 years. If they make the roster, even most 2nd rounders get at least a 2 year look. Even if you want to move on after 1 season, $1.5 mil contracts aren't hard to move.

So for me, the cap impact has absolutely zero bearing on this potential trade. Especially when Detroit is currently flush with cap space anyways.

[Kilo]

Nope get your guy at #7. 26 and 30 too late to drop back the seven spots in the lottery.
14th, 26th and 2021 Boston FRP I might consider.

That's likely to be #14, #26 and ~#28.

Potentially, but it could also be early 20's as well. In a better draft class. Better than surely getting 30 OA in this draft.

[buzzkilloton]

I actually wouldnt mind it in this class. In just about any other draft class I would say no but the drop off from 7 to 14 isnt that much in this one.

That said I do want to see whos on the board. If the right guy falls I want to stay at 7.

[SamFlow]

I'd do this IF I could trade the 14 and Blake or Luke for ? and 2. If I could trade up and grab the 2. I wouldn't trade the 7... but would trade the 14. And end up with the 2 and the later firsts.

[Invictus88]

I'm torn between the sentiment I've heard that 7-15 in this year's crop is pretty even tier-wise and the idea that everything is so unclear at the top that somebody is going to drop to 7 that maybe shouldn't.

If you strongly believe the first part then I think you jump at the trade? If you believe the second part you hang on to the pick?
You coukd also roll the dice and wait till the clock starts at 7 and see what's there? But then if you want to trade maybe Boston doesn't make the trade if they don't like who's left?

I think at this point it's possible to overthink things. If we just take whoever we like at 7 we probably end up adding a rotation piece. If we gamble and do the trade beforehand the floor is we end up with nothing....

So I'm currently in the "wait and see who's available" camp I guess...

P.S. I don't see any reason to really spend any resources to trade up in this draft. Too many unknowns. The likelihood that you find a guy available picking 7th that is reasonably close to who you have on your board at 2 is high...

[MotownMadness]

Man I really want no part of this trade. I'm just so much higher on guys like Hayes and others that could be there at 7 that won't at 14.

Those last couple picks just do nothing for me, would even rather buy a early 2nd then do this move for 2 of the last picks in the 1st.

Could just buy a early 2nd rounder from a team with multiple 2nds and take on some salary for a pick in the 20s if possible before moving out of 7th to almost out of lottery.

If it something under consideration though then I see how bad they want that 7th. Deal would be-

Griffin and #7
For
Hayward, #14, #26 and #30

[thesack12]

ESPN's Zach Lowe:

I would bet against any team trading a first-round pick for cash (and the required token second-rounder) -- something that hasn't happened since Denver traded the pick that became Gobert in 2013 -- but given economic uncertainty, I'd expect some teams toward the bottom of the first round to try to exchange those picks for roughly equivalent future picks. We will see some second-rounders sell for cash.

[BJK1]

ESPN's Zach Lowe:

I would bet against any team trading a first-round pick for cash (and the required token second-rounder) -- something that hasn't happened since Denver traded the pick that became Gobert in 2013 -- but given economic uncertainty, I'd expect some teams toward the bottom of the first round to try to exchange those picks for roughly equivalent future picks. We will see some second-rounders sell for cash.

I’m sure the Pistons will buy a pick (or two) in the 2nd. And I wouldn’t be completely surprised if either Kennard or Rose were traded on draft night in a deal that includes a pick in the back half of the 1st.

[thesack12]

ESPN's Zach Lowe:

I would bet against any team trading a first-round pick for cash (and the required token second-rounder) -- something that hasn't happened since Denver traded the pick that became Gobert in 2013 -- but given economic uncertainty, I'd expect some teams toward the bottom of the first round to try to exchange those picks for roughly equivalent future picks. We will see some second-rounders sell for cash.

I’m sure the Pistons will buy a pick (or two) in the 2nd. And I wouldn’t be completely surprised if either Kennard or Rose were traded on draft night in a deal that includes a pick in the back half of the 1st.

Detroit sold the Porter pick to Cleveland for $5 mil then bought the Bone pick for $2 mil, So Gores still has $3mil left to buy a pick this year without ever having to get into his own pocket.

Hopefully he greenlights the use of it.

[chrbal]

ESPN's Zach Lowe:

I’m sure the Pistons will buy a pick (or two) in the 2nd. And I wouldn’t be completely surprised if either Kennard or Rose were traded on draft night in a deal that includes a pick in the back half of the 1st.

Detroit sold the Porter pick to Cleveland for $5 mil then bought the Bone pick for $2 mil, So Gores still has $3mil left to buy a pick this year without ever having to get into his own pocket.

Hopefully he greenlights the use of it.

I feel like that wouldn’t count for this season

[thesack12]

I’m sure the Pistons will buy a pick (or two) in the 2nd. And I wouldn’t be completely surprised if either Kennard or Rose were traded on draft night in a deal that includes a pick in the back half of the 1st.

Detroit sold the Porter pick to Cleveland for $5 mil then bought the Bone pick for $2 mil, So Gores still has $3mil left to buy a pick this year without ever having to get into his own pocket.

Hopefully he greenlights the use of it.

I feel like that wouldn’t count for this season

You're correct, in that the NBA resets the cash consideration boundaries for draft picks each year.

I was just speaking practically in terms of Gores came away from last draft with an extra $3 mil, so that means that he could agree to finance the purchase of a pick this year for $3 mil and never actually spend a dime.