Patrick Williams promise and future pick..

[BJK1]

Actually Mitchell went right around where he was projected to go at the time (early-mid teens). One of the big mistakes in recent draft history, as teams should have reached on him.

Based on what?

It's easy to look back now and say that teams should have reached but at the time?

WE should have drafted him simply because we needed that athletic aggressive guard, the mini-Wade thing and SVG should have seen that.

Same way we should have drafted Melo in 2003, Booker over Stanimal (for shooting around Dre)...

Some choices are obvious at the time.

Hindsight sucks

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Based on the fact that most teams spend millions of dollars annually on scouting and analytics. We’re fans, so we’re afforded the opportunity for hindsight. We aren’t paid to spend thousands of hours scouting these players, digging into their backgrounds, determining their character, and projecting what they’ll become as pros. And make no mistake, a huge part of the job is projecting. By no means is anyone perfect, but mistakes like missing on Donovan Mitchell has undoubtedly caused front office people to lose their jobs.

[440BB]

I'm wondering whether the rumored promise to Williams was a way to drum up interest in him, helping keep our preferred pick available at seven.

[Snakebites]

So we actually worked out Lamelo Ball.

Either both he and the Pistons believe there's a chance Williams is picked AHEAD of Lamelo, or this promise is nonsense.

Going with number 2.

[Dantares]

Patrick Williams highlights are eye popping and he is so young.

6'8 225 pounds. since he is the youngest player in the draft he is probably going to get significantly bigger and faster.

[MotownMadness]

Patrick Williams highlights are eye popping and he is so young.

6'8 225 pounds. since he is the youngest player in the draft he is probably going to get significantly bigger and faster.

He's intriguing for sure

[Canadafan]

Patrick Williams highlights are eye popping and he is so young.

6'8 225 pounds. since he is the youngest player in the draft he is probably going to get significantly bigger and faster.

Whatcha got? Show me show me show me

[MotownMadness]

Patrick Williams highlights are eye popping and he is so young.

6'8 225 pounds. since he is the youngest player in the draft he is probably going to get significantly bigger and faster.

Whatcha got? Show me show me show me

This guy is getting pretty good with some of his scouting videos

(plus hes a regular RealGM poster so I'll post his video)

Watch on YouTube

[Crymson]

Patrick Williams highlights are eye popping and he is so young.

6'8 225 pounds. since he is the youngest player in the draft he is probably going to get significantly bigger and faster.

He isn't the youngest player in the draft, and he isn't unusually young: he's 19 years, 3.5 months, which would be around the average age of one-and-done draftees in past drafts held in June.

For reference, he's exactly 30 days younger than Killian Hayes and about eight months older than Sekou was at the 2019 Draft.

This guy is getting pretty good with some of his scouting videos

I think this video overhypes Williams more than a bit. He showed limited offensive capability at FSU, especially with respect to reaching the basket on the drive or creating much of any other offense for himself, and he wasn't a standout as an on-ball defender. He's got potential, but it's hard to say what that potential might be.

[thesack12]

IDk, Patrick Williams just seems like the next Marvin Williams to me. Highly athletic tweener forward, with limited offensive skills, that came off the bench in their 1 and done college season.

I also definitely don't like the talk of Williams' questionable motor and lack of focus. That smacks of that other super athletic guy with severe offensive limitations that never did shed the motor/focus/drive questions or show substantial offensive development. Fortunately that guy is now in Cleveland.

I'm pretty leery of guys with motor/motivation concerns, especially if those guys don't do anything particularly well coming into the league. It doesn't inspire confidence that they will put in the necessary determination to get better.

[Moses ShamMoses]

I'm not sold on Patrick Williams at 7. If we were picking at 15 again sure, he'd be a nice pickup, but leery at 7. I tend to lean more toward Isaac Okoro if we're going with a forward. Okoro has better court awareness and finesse to his game to go along with elite strength/athleticism. Both guys need to work on their shot so I'd take the guy who does other things better.

[BJK1]

IDk, Patrick Williams just seems like the next Marvin Williams to me. Highly athletic tweener forward, with limited offensive skills, that came off the bench in their 1 and done college season.

I also definitely don't like the talk of Williams' questionable motor and lack of focus. That smacks of that other super athletic guy with severe offensive limitations that never did shed the motor/focus/drive questions or show substantial offensive development. Fortunately that guy is now in Cleveland.

I'm pretty leery of guys with motor/motivation concerns, especially if those guys don't do anything particularly well coming into the league. It doesn't inspire confidence that they will put in the necessary determination to get better.

I personally haven’t read or heard about any motivation issues for Patrick Williams. If anything, it’s been the opposite. That said, the Pistons NEED offensive creators. I like Williams’ potential as a two-way “big” wing, but not sure I’d want him over Haliburton or Hayes.

[thesack12]

IDk, Patrick Williams just seems like the next Marvin Williams to me. Highly athletic tweener forward, with limited offensive skills, that came off the bench in their 1 and done college season.

I also definitely don't like the talk of Williams' questionable motor and lack of focus. That smacks of that other super athletic guy with severe offensive limitations that never did shed the motor/focus/drive questions or show substantial offensive development. Fortunately that guy is now in Cleveland.

I'm pretty leery of guys with motor/motivation concerns, especially if those guys don't do anything particularly well coming into the league. It doesn't inspire confidence that they will put in the necessary determination to get better.

I personally haven’t read or heard about any motivation issues for Patrick Williams. If anything, it’s been the opposite. That said, the Pistons NEED offensive creators. I like Williams’ potential as a two-way “big” wing, but not sure I’d want him over Haliburton or Hayes.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/patrick-williams/

There are question marks about his want to as a scorer, and his ceiling as a scorer at the next level … Can he be a 15+ point scorer, does he have the desire to be a bucket getter

Has a great reputation for being a nice kid, but at times has been called “too nice” and in need of more grit in order to maximize his abilities

Can learn to play with more sense of urgency and force the issue, considering his talent edge

How badly does he “want it”

Likely a kid that will need some pushing and development to realize his potential

Staying motivated and focused and developing a offensive skill set will be key to his long term development

Can be too content letting the game come to him and can improve aggression

All from the above article

[the_l_train]

The fact he couldn't earn a starting spot in college scares the hell outta me.

He is first-ballot please God don't draft list (along with Okoro & Toppin)

[buzzkilloton]

Williams played the 4th most minutes per game on the team by a solid margin which is starter minutes despite not starting the game.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/florida-state/2020.html

That said I'm not really into Williams all that much. If we stay put I want Okoro or Hayes. If we trade back Vassell, Maxey, or Terry look like solid picks.

Overall I'm not really that excited about anyone in this draft. Next years draft and the year after are the ones that will be setting us up to be a good team. Lets hope we dont do anything stupid this offseason that puts us in a worse positon for those drafts.

[coordinator0]

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/#mock

Sounds like O'Connor firmly believes the Pistons want Williams. He mentions them taking him in like three of his explanation blurbs.

[kingmob]

This guy is fools gold. Does not impress me at all.

Even his athleticism is nothing special. He is raw and undeveloped, basically a 3-4 year project that might never be a player that is more than a fringe starter in my opinion.

Would make me angry if he is drafted.