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Re: WOJ: Pistons acquire Zhaire Smith 

Post#101 » by Pharaoh » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:59 am

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That’s a terribly depressing thought. I don’t know how any NBA upper management can dilute themselves into believe they’re close to the end of a rebuild when they are completely devoid of assets.

The way I see things, you’re probably 3 seasons away from contending once you hit on an all-star caliber player on a rookie scale deal.

Who knows if they even believe it.

They just know that it's what the man who's hiring them wants.

Gores doesn't want to rebuild the team. He's content to treadmill it out- if we get a little playoff revenue once every few years- that's good enough for him. He's not willing to endure 3 or so years of awfulness and the poor ticket sales that come with that in order to have a good product in the long term.

Call it short sighted, call it absurd, call it whatever you want. It's probably what we've got here. There's a reason we've alternated between mediocre and below average for about a decade now.



I’d they think that they are at the end of a rebuild, the are about as lost as possible. This team is so far off from competing and it has only gotten worse with the bad contracts and stretching of contracts. I still think that Gores is giving Weaver a win now ultimatum which scares me greatly.
Bad contracts?

Plumlee at less than the MLE...

Grant at market value...

What bad contracts have we handed out? The amount of whining about it suggests we've signed a whole load of them.

As for all the stretching of contacts - are any of them actually official yet or is it all speculation?

Even if true the speculation has us stretching Dedmon (no great loss) & Smith (would hate that) but the "dead" money is less than $3 mil.

And since all y'all believe Weaver doesn't know what he's doing y'all should celebrate the fact he doesn't have that $3 mil to "waste" on some overpay!

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Re: WOJ: Pistons acquire Zhaire Smith 

Post#102 » by ChipButty » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:48 am

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As for all the stretching of contacts - are any of them actually official yet or is it all speculation?



I believe it's still speculation.

Looking at the official transactions, if my numbers are correct, adding Grant, Bradley, Dedmon, McGruder, and Musa means we do not have the cap space to make the draft day acquisition of Ariza and #16 official.

I believe that is why there is so much speculation about Weavering Dedmon or finding an immediate trade partner for Rose.
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Re: WOJ: Pistons acquire Zhaire Smith 

Post#103 » by Canadafan » Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:31 am

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As for all the stretching of contacts - are any of them actually official yet or is it all speculation?



I believe it's still speculation.

Looking at the official transactions, if my numbers are correct, adding Grant, Bradley, Dedmon, McGruder, and Musa means we do not have the cap space to make the draft day acquisition of Ariza and #16 official.

I believe that is why there is so much speculation about Weavering Dedmon or finding an immediate trade partner for Rose.


Hmmm so if we can fit Rose into Warriors injury exemption all this Weavering maybe will be a figment of our imaginations?
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Re: WOJ: Pistons acquire Zhaire Smith 

Post#104 » by thesack12 » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:00 pm

Golden State just absorbed Kelly Oubre into their TPE while sending out draft picks. With luxury tax factored in, Oubre will cost them $68 million dollars for 1 season.

If GSW absorbs Rose into another exception, factoring in luxury tax he would end up costing them about $35 million dollars for 1 season.

I don't see the Dubs willing to shell out that amount of shear cash, just for Rose to be their backup PG. If they are, Detroit won't be getting any notable draft compensation. It would be a straight salary dump for Detroit, which would still be ok just to get Rose out of the way of Hayes.
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Re: WOJ: Pistons acquire Zhaire Smith 

Post#105 » by The Penguin » Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:56 pm

thesack12 wrote:Golden State just absorbed Kelly Oubre into their TPE while sending out draft picks. With luxury tax factored in, Oubre will cost them $68 million dollars for 1 season.

If GSW absorbs Rose into another exception, factoring in luxury tax he would end up costing them about $35 million dollars for 1 season.

I don't see the Dubs willing to shell out that amount of shear cash, just for Rose to be their backup PG. If they are, Detroit won't be getting any notable draft compensation. It would be a straight salary dump for Detroit, which would still be ok just to get Rose out of the way of Hayes.



If the Warriors dumped $103 mil in tax money just on Oubre & Rose and here we are trying to squeeze a mil into a deal here and there, may as well just nuke the salary cap, this is MLB level disparity.

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