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GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM

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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#101 » by Snakebites » Tue Jan 19, 2021 3:39 pm

Casey as a coach is fundamentally at odds with this teams’ roster and goals. No idea why Blake gets to play that much with how he looks out there, and Saddiq getting 4 minutes is inexcusable.

No clue why I’m still watching, honestly. If you’d told me in December that we’d be starting Wright, Ellington, Blake and Plumlee I probably wouldn’t have started watching. Grant’s the only guy playing now who adds any watch ability factor.
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#102 » by vic » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:25 pm

Meanwhile C Wood gets 30 & 9 for Houston...

And our GM is the guy who gets credit for drafting Russell Westbrook and was on the team that chose low IQ Westbrook over playing an unstoppable duo of KD/James Harden - and instead gave Harden to... Houston.

Things that make you wonder if the Pistons will get a chip again, or if they will just be “emptying clips” every year :cry:
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#103 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:02 pm

Snakebites wrote:Casey as a coach is fundamentally at odds with this teams’ roster and goals. No idea why Blake gets to play that much with how he looks out there, and Saddiq getting 4 minutes is inexcusable.

No clue why I’m still watching, honestly. If you’d told me in December that we’d be starting Wright, Ellington, Blake and Plumlee I probably wouldn’t have started watching. Grant’s the only guy playing now who adds any watch ability factor.


I think a lot of posters in here thought Casey would do Casey things this year and play the vets over the kids.

I think more thought this than didn’t, honestly.

He’s said he wanted to make developing and playing the kids a priority.

What he said and what he’s doing are two different things.
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#104 » by Manocad » Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:24 pm

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TurboTitan wrote:miss managed his injury completely and the long lasting effects are starting to show badly. It's obv not just Casey but they let him play through some serious sh*t

I mean the guy has a bum knee. Now possibly 2 bum knees (looking at game). But the only alternative is not to play at all? Possibly ever? There are reasons to do that but it's not to manage his health..

well I think its too late to salvage now everything that couldve been done to keep him healthy was thrown out the window in the past for meaningless games in hindsight. A proper minute restriction wasn't even done

I've been saying for a while that I think Blake is a lost cause in the sense that no team is going to take him until he's an expiring and to just ride it out until then. So if he's now truly broken, i.e. can only retire after his contract is up (which I've actually said is his best option), I'm not upset in any way.

That being said, if you think that Blake got "broken" by Casey and had no say in how many minutes he was playing or whether he should play or not based on his health, you are 100%, without a doubt, completely deluded. Pro athletes now are refusing to play for reasons totally unrelated to their health, and even using "My [insert body part here] is sore, I can't go" as a common excuse. Point being, if they're truly hurt/injured and concerned about what continuing to play will do to their long term value/health, they refuse to play, period. You can bet the house that if Blake is playing it's because he's pushing Casey for playing time.

And that's not to say that Casey has to or even should give in to anything Blake demands. But thinking that Blake has no say in the matter is laughable.
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#105 » by rmfc » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:09 pm

Snakebites wrote:Casey as a coach is fundamentally at odds with this teams’ roster and goals.


Agreed. If Casey doesn't change, it's going be abig problem for this franchise in the short term (win meaningless games with rookies not getting much PT) and in the long term (draft position).

Honestly, I am not sure why Casey is still coaching the Pistons.
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Post#106 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:30 pm

Is he playing fugly rotations on purpose?

Maybe he’s been told to try and lose games without it looking obvious?

I mean if he did what we all want him to do, and played the kids, I’d worry about us winning more games with them versus playing Blake’s corpse, Plumlee, Ellington, and the rest of the vets.

Wright / Rose / FrankJax
JoshJax / Svi
Grant
Sekou
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^^ I think that lineup gets us more wins than what we’ve been watching.
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#107 » by davidvolumes » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:22 pm

The only logic I can see to play Blake 30 minutes per game is to LOSE but give the appearance they are trying to win with the best player. Ray Charles can see Blake is washed up and still they play him. Now imagine this team next year with Evan Mobley in Blake's place.Keep playing Blake.
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#108 » by Piston Pete » Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:34 pm

davidvolumes wrote:The only logic I can see to play Blake 30 minutes per game is to LOSE but give the appearance they are trying to win with the best player. Ray Charles can see Blake is washed up and still they play him. Now imagine this team next year with Evan Mobley in Blake's place.Keep playing Blake.


We already have a long-term PF. Sekou

If Mobley can play C, then fine.

Otherwise, we’ll prob draft a PG or SG
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#109 » by Laimbeer » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:21 pm

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davidvolumes wrote:The only logic I can see to play Blake 30 minutes per game is to LOSE but give the appearance they are trying to win with the best player. Ray Charles can see Blake is washed up and still they play him. Now imagine this team next year with Evan Mobley in Blake's place.Keep playing Blake.


We already have a long-term PF. Sekou

If Mobley can play C, then fine.

Otherwise, we’ll prob draft a PG or SG


I don't think any of our young players have shown they're the answer at any position. I'd take the BPA.
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#110 » by edmunder_prc » Tue Jan 19, 2021 9:33 pm

Piston Pete wrote:
davidvolumes wrote:The only logic I can see to play Blake 30 minutes per game is to LOSE but give the appearance they are trying to win with the best player. Ray Charles can see Blake is washed up and still they play him. Now imagine this team next year with Evan Mobley in Blake's place.Keep playing Blake.


We already have a long-term PF. Sekou

If Mobley can play C, then fine.

Otherwise, we’ll prob draft a PG or SG



Sekou needs to play 25 minutes a game for the rest of the season. Maybe he shows that he could be a long term guy at PF, but so far he looks like an 8th man coming in for minutes at SF/PF.

The problem is that Casey has decided to play Blake until his legs give out, then maybe we wheel Blake out on a chair and let him shoot from half court.
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#111 » by Sort » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:04 pm

Really, I just don't see Casey making it through the season. I get that armchair coaches have it easy for second guessing. But pushing the rookies to the bench so a broken down Blake can log 35 minutes? That's so obviously off he's putting himself on the hot seat. He's both damaging Blake's trade potential and limiting the development of the young players.

Weaver just needs to make that clear. Casey is a company man. Weaver just needs to intervene.
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Re: GAME 13: Pistons @ Heat 8PM 

Post#112 » by DBC10 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 10:07 pm

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Snakebites wrote:Casey as a coach is fundamentally at odds with this teams’ roster and goals.


Agreed. If Casey doesn't change, it's going be abig problem for this franchise in the short term (win meaningless games with rookies not getting much PT) and in the long term (draft position).

Honestly, I am not sure why Casey is still coaching the Pistons.


It's likely his last stop as a head coach. The guy is bit of a dinosaur in this modern day offense/defense, even before he got here. I doubt another team comes up and gladly snags him whenever he gets fired/resigns

But yes, agreed. Casey letting BG have his long leash is quite similar to the Josh Smith era in lax attitudes in regards to playing time. It's clear Casey heavily leans into his vets like it's a game 3 of a playoff series no matter what the situation is, not much you can do with a coach that is that bullheaded

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