GAME 23: Pistons @ Lakers 10PM

[Manocad]

Wish I had watched the game. By look of the boxscore, Wright, Svi, Josh, & Plumlee were terrific.

Grant had high score, but 11-27 isn't much to cheer about.

Bey & Sekou, yikes.

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Yeah you should have watched the game. Instead of trashing Grant’s night. Box score watching doesn’t tell you ****. Grant was terrific. Took it right at LeBron and was fearless.

No one criticizes stat watchers more than me. But 11-27 tells you he made only 11 out of 27 shots. That's a bad shooting night. Period. Which is in contrast to the headline of his career high in points. I didn't say he played a bad game overall.

I wouldn’t call 40.7% from the floor a “bad shooting night, period.” The league average is 46% and if Grant had made one more shot—and he had a number of in and outer’s—he’d have been at 44.4%. Two more made shots and he would have been at 48.1% and people would be saying he had an absolutely awesome game. I don’t think two missed shots would be considered by most people as the difference between awesome and “bad, period.” Miss two more shots to go 9-27 and 33%? Ok, now that’s bad. At worst I’d give him a “a little off.”

[Uncle Mxy]

Kentavious Caldwell-Poop with 4 points... LOL at the $20-million-ain't-enough man.

[JNewton]

Kentavious Caldwell-Poop with 4 points... LOL at the $20-million-ain't-enough man.

Fortunately even SVG knew that would have been a disaster.

[DetroitSho]

Another data point pointing to the theory that without Blake and Rose and playing the kids extended minutes this is not a bottom 5 in the league team. Which of course also points to the theory that Casey wasn’t continuing to play Blake and Rose big minutes and losing games because he’s really trying to win games, and is just so dumb that he can’t figure out which roster has the best shot at winning games.

Hey did you hear the one about how you can add All NBA Christian Wood to the same rotation that took the Lakers to Double OT and still somehow end up with a top 3 worst record?

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[Manocad]

Another data point pointing to the theory that without Blake and Rose and playing the kids extended minutes this is not a bottom 5 in the league team. Which of course also points to the theory that Casey wasn’t continuing to play Blake and Rose big minutes and losing games because he’s really trying to win games, and is just so dumb that he can’t figure out which roster has the best shot at winning games.

Hey did you hear the one about how you can add All NBA Christian Wood to the same rotation that took the Lakers to Double OT and still somehow end up with a top 3 worst record?

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Yeah, definitely another one of my favorite theories.

[DetroitSho]

Kentavious Caldwell-Poop with 4 points... LOL at the $20-million-ain't-enough man.

Does nobody in this fan base ever come to the conclusion that some players, especially during the last 5 years, just preferred other situations over being a Piston?

While you're "lol" at him he's probably "lol" at the Pistons as he got paid, plays in LA, won a championship, going for another championship, and he's currently shooting 47% from 3 on decent volume while playing great defense on the favorites.

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[edmunder_prc]

Another data point pointing to the theory that without Blake and Rose and playing the kids extended minutes this is not a bottom 5 in the league team. Which of course also points to the theory that Casey wasn’t continuing to play Blake and Rose big minutes and losing games because he’s really trying to win games, and is just so dumb that he can’t figure out which roster has the best shot at winning games.

Hey did you hear the one about how you can add All NBA Christian Wood to the same rotation that took the Lakers to Double OT and still somehow end up with a top 3 worst record?

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The same way you take GSW from 3 years in the Finals, two of them Championships, to getting the #2 pick in Wiseman.

Its like you can watch basketball and be completely unaware that the best team in the last decade did EXACTLY what you are saying is impossible for this awful Pistons to do, just last year. Your entire argument can be disproven in 60 seconds of looking at GSW.

Curry and Draymond both were "injured" an entire season and were rewarded with Wiseman.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/

Please stop it. It is NOT hard to lose. Every team in the league can lose and teams like Charlotte, Pistons, Magic, T-Wolves are really good at it, even when they are trying to win.

I have no idea why you clutch so tightly to hope that Weaver was playing interdimensional 5D chess and let Wood go and Casey plays the vets 47 minutes in double over time games, so the Pistons would lose.

Nope - We have a bad coach. That bad coach was likely giving Weaver bad advice - or Weaver made a disastrous move as our GM. Its one of the two.

Last season proved it: Casey played Knight, McRae (a street pick up), Galloway, and Henson as many minutes as possible when the team dumped Morris, Drummond and Jackson to tank. This team desperately needed to tank, so Casey cut out the young guys and leaned as hard as possible into the vets, playing them as many minutes as he could, to try and win. How soon do you forget Tim Frazier for crying out loud.

We could have played Jordan Bone that brought the Pistons G-league team to the championship game, but Casey needed veteran grit and blah blah. Kyhri Thomas, Jordan Bone, Louis King, Donte Hall. Those were the guys to play. He didn't

Now he plays Plumee, Wright, Blake, Ellington, McGruder, DRose as many minutes as he can - but its part of his 8d trans-dimensional chess to lose games.

Have I mistaken your argument?

[DetroitSho]

Another data point pointing to the theory that without Blake and Rose and playing the kids extended minutes this is not a bottom 5 in the league team. Which of course also points to the theory that Casey wasn’t continuing to play Blake and Rose big minutes and losing games because he’s really trying to win games, and is just so dumb that he can’t figure out which roster has the best shot at winning games.

Hey did you hear the one about how you can add All NBA Christian Wood to the same rotation that took the Lakers to Double OT and still somehow end up with a top 3 worst record?

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The same way you take GSW from 3 years in the Finals, two of them Championships, to getting the #2 pick in Wiseman.

Its like you can watch basketball and be completely unaware that the best team in the last decade did EXACTLY what you are saying is impossible for this awful Pistons to do, just last year. Your entire argument can be disproven in 60 seconds of looking at GSW.

Curry and Draymond both were "injured" an entire season and were rewarded with Wiseman.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/

Please stop it. It is NOT hard to lose. Every team in the league can lose and teams like Charlotte, Pistons, Magic, T-Wolves are really good at it, even when they are trying to win.

I have no idea why you clutch so tightly to hope that Weaver was playing interdimensional 5D chess and let Wood go and Casey plays the vets 47 minutes in double over time games, so the Pistons would lose.

Nope - We have a bad coach. That bad coach was likely giving Weaver bad advice - or Weaver made a disastrous move as our GM. Its one of the two.

Last season proved it: Casey played Knight, McRae (a street pick up), Galloway, and Henson as many minutes as possible when the team dumped Morris, Drummond and Jackson to tank. This team desperately needed to tank, so Casey cut out the young guys and leaned as hard as possible into the vets, playing them as many minutes as he could, to try and win. How soon do you forget Tim Frazier for crying out loud.

We could have played Jordan Bone that brought the Pistons G-league team to the championship game, but Casey needed veteran grit and blah blah. Kyhri Thomas, Jordan Bone, Louis King, Donte Hall. Those were the guys to play. He didn't

Now he plays Plumee, Wright, Blake, Ellington, McGruder, DRose as many minutes as he can - but its part of his 8d trans-dimensional chess to lose games.

Have I mistaken your argument?

Right, Curry didn't actually break his hand so let's put injured in quotation marks. Oh no, maybe they faked Klay's injury too. Regardless of if they held out Curry a little longer than fans thought he should, because fans on RealGM know better about a person's healing process than the player/team, he still had to legit get injured before they reversed field. Prior to that they were playing it out.

You're proposing that from the opening tip of the season to have the two guys who will probably be #1 and #2 for MIP to purposely supress their minutes or somehow nurse fake injuries because they're too good to tank which actually proves the point you seem to be arguing against.

And by the way this is all assuming Wood really did want to be here, which NONE of us actually know.

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[edmunder_prc]

Right, Curry didn't actually break his hand so let's put injured in quotation marks. Oh no, maybe they faked Klay's injury too. Regardless of if they held out Curry a little longer than fans thought he should, because fans on RealGM know better about a person's healing process than the player/team, he still had to legit get injured before they reversed field. Prior to that they were playing it out.

You're proposing that from the opening tip of the season to have the two guys who will probably be #1 and #2 for MIP to purposely supress their minutes or somehow nurse fake injuries because they're too good to tank which actually proves the point you seem to be arguing against.

And by the way this is all assuming Wood really did want to be here, which NONE of us actually know.

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Yes, Curry and Draymond being out for a whole season was BS and look at the mountains of posts from the entire GB board explaining how those hand injuries dont need to be out that long.

Lebron did the same thing. Kawhi stops playing when he wants to.

The Spurs as an organization stop playing guys whenever they want.

What do the Spurs, Lakers and GSW have it common. They are not garbage franchises. They make good moves for the team.

GSW was gifted the #2 pick for shutting down their players, while the Pistons grinded out wins playing John Henson, McRae and Brandon Knight part II. Yeah Pistons are genius level franchise. So we got Killian Hayes.

On top of it all - there arent any fans! Pistons arent losing gate money anyway.

[Manocad]

Kentavious Caldwell-Poop with 4 points... LOL at the $20-million-ain't-enough man.

Does nobody in this fan base ever come to the conclusion that some players, especially during the last 5 years, just preferred other situations over being a Piston?

While you're "lol" at him he's probably "lol" at the Pistons as he got paid, plays in LA, won a championship, going for another championship, and he's currently shooting 47% from 3 on decent volume while playing great defense on the favorites.

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My guess is that the point was only that KCP never showed he was worth the money he thought he deserved, thus his demand was laughable

[DetroitSho]

Right, Curry didn't actually break his hand so let's put injured in quotation marks. Oh no, maybe they faked Klay's injury too. Regardless of if they held out Curry a little longer than fans thought he should, because fans on RealGM know better about a person's healing process than the player/team, he still had to legit get injured before they reversed field. Prior to that they were playing it out.

You're proposing that from the opening tip of the season to have the two guys who will probably be #1 and #2 for MIP to purposely supress their minutes or somehow nurse fake injuries because they're too good to tank which actually proves the point you seem to be arguing against.

And by the way this is all assuming Wood really did want to be here, which NONE of us actually know.

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Yes, Curry and Draymond being out for a whole season was BS and look at the mountains of posts from the entire GB board explaining how those hand injuries dont need to be out that long.

Lebron did the same thing. Kawhi stops playing when he wants to.

The Spurs as an organization stop playing guys whenever they want.

What do the Spurs, Lakers and GSW have it common. They are not garbage franchises. They make good moves for the team.

GSW was gifted the #2 pick for shutting down their players, while the Pistons grinded out wins playing John Henson, McRae and Brandon Knight part II. Yeah Pistons are genius level franchise. So we got Killian Hayes.

On top of it all - there arent any fans! Pistons arent losing gate money anyway.

At some point you have to either stop pretending you don't know context or at least gain some context around how the 2 situations are not the same.

You go into the season missing your star SG and then a few games in you lose your superstar PG that makes the whole machine run. Now let's add some context here. These guys, along with Draymond have been to 5 straight finals. So they've basically played 6 1/2 seasons worth of games in 5 seasons. When Curry goes down, you literally have no hope of making the playoffs. On a team whose goal is championships there's literally no reason to rush Curry back when at best they could fight for a 10th place finish.

Let's bring it to Wood and Grant. You want guys whose sole goal is to have an expanded role and big minutes to load manage like LeBron, Kawhi and others. Again, context. WTF is this? You want perfectly healthy 24 and 25 year olds to be sat out and played sparingly at times.

PLOT TWIST, maybe this is what Weaver presented to Wood and Wood wanted no parts. I mean, since we're throwing out ridiculous theories and all.

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[MrBigShot]

KCP played pretty well en route to the Lakers championship and has no fear of the moment. Shooting the ball really well too this season, I don't think the Lakers regret paying him.

[Uncle Mxy]

Kentavious Caldwell-Poop with 4 points... LOL at the $20-million-ain't-enough man.

Does nobody in this fan base ever come to the conclusion that some players, especially during the last 5 years, just preferred other situations over being a Piston?

He rejected 4 years/$80 million for 1 year/$18 million, to play with a pre-LeBron dysfunctional Lakers. Yeah... right.

I feel like I can laugh when he pretty much drops a turd in a game against us. Yeah, I know he's got a ring and a role, but it's a petty little victory and sometimes I'll just enjoy the petty little victories for a moment.

[DetroitSho]

Kentavious Caldwell-Poop with 4 points... LOL at the $20-million-ain't-enough man.

Does nobody in this fan base ever come to the conclusion that some players, especially during the last 5 years, just preferred other situations over being a Piston?

He rejected 4 years/$80 million for 1 year/$18 million, to play with a pre-LeBron dysfunctional Lakers. Yeah... right.

I feel like I can laugh when he pretty much drops a turd in a game against us. Yeah, I know he's got a ring and a role, but it's a petty little victory and sometimes I'll just enjoy the petty little victories for a moment.

Yeah, the Pistons definitely showed KCP.

/s

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