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Pistons are one of only 6 teams projected to have more than MLE in Free Agency.

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Pistons are one of only 6 teams projected to have more than MLE in Free Agency. 

Post#1 » by bstein14 » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:39 pm

Pistons are one of only 6 teams projected to have more than MLE in Free Agency. I know many people here want to use that space just to take on a contract and get a draft pick or two out of it, but with so few teams with cap space could this put Detroit in a position to get a bargain FA signing of a starter to add to our core? It happened back in July 2002 when Detroit signed Billups to an MLE deal that ended up being a bargain for a young player that turned into an all-star with us.

Some of that will depend on where we draft, and if we try and re-up a few of our own FA's such as DSJ, Saban Lee, Frank Jackson, Tyler Cook, CoJo, etc.

Being a team that can likely offer both a starting spot, and a team that can offer more than MLE might mean we can lure a FA that could become a solid piece of our core much like Grant has become.

Some names that come to mind. I'm only looking at guys that are 28 and younger as anyone else would be too old for what we're building here most likely. The 2017 rookie class (Fueltz, Ball, Tatum, Josh Jackson class) will be RFAs this summer as well.

Dennis Schroder (28)
Evan Fournier (28)
Kelly Oubre Jr (25)
Spencer Dinwiddie (28) (Player Option)
Josh Richardson (28)
Normal Powell (28)
Derrick Jones Jr (24)
Montrezz Harrel (27)
Lonzo Ball (23)
Lauri Markkanen (24)
Elfrid Payton (27)
Andre Drummond (27)
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Post#2 » by DetroitSho » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:51 pm

bstein14 wrote:Pistons are one of only 6 teams projected to have more than MLE in Free Agency. I know many people here want to use that space just to take on a contract and get a draft pick or two out of it, but with so few teams with cap space could this put Detroit in a position to get a bargain FA signing of a starter to add to our core? It happened back in July 2002 when Detroit signed Billups to an MLE deal that ended up being a bargain for a young player that turned into an all-star with us.

Some of that will depend on where we draft, and if we try and re-up a few of our own FA's such as DSJ, Saban Lee, Frank Jackson, Tyler Cook, CoJo, etc.

Being a team that can likely offer both a starting spot, and a team that can offer more than MLE might mean we can lure a FA that could become a solid piece of our core much like Grant has become.

Some names that come to mind. I'm only looking at guys that are 28 and younger as anyone else would be too old for what we're building here most likely. The 2017 rookie class (Fueltz, Ball, Tatum, Josh Jackson class) will be RFAs this summer as well.

Dennis Schroder (28)
Evan Fournier (28)
Kelly Oubre Jr (25)
Spencer Dinwiddie (28) (Player Option)
Josh Richardson (28)
Normal Powell (28)
Derrick Jones Jr (24)
Montrezz Harrel (27)
Lonzo Ball (23)
Lauri Markkanen (24)
Elfrid Payton (27)
Andre Drummond (27)
Bruh it ain't anything on this list worth discussing.

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Re: Pistons are one of only 6 teams projected to have more than MLE in Free Agency. 

Post#3 » by Manocad » Tue Apr 20, 2021 10:59 pm

DetroitSho wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Pistons are one of only 6 teams projected to have more than MLE in Free Agency. I know many people here want to use that space just to take on a contract and get a draft pick or two out of it, but with so few teams with cap space could this put Detroit in a position to get a bargain FA signing of a starter to add to our core? It happened back in July 2002 when Detroit signed Billups to an MLE deal that ended up being a bargain for a young player that turned into an all-star with us.

Some of that will depend on where we draft, and if we try and re-up a few of our own FA's such as DSJ, Saban Lee, Frank Jackson, Tyler Cook, CoJo, etc.

Being a team that can likely offer both a starting spot, and a team that can offer more than MLE might mean we can lure a FA that could become a solid piece of our core much like Grant has become.

Some names that come to mind. I'm only looking at guys that are 28 and younger as anyone else would be too old for what we're building here most likely. The 2017 rookie class (Fueltz, Ball, Tatum, Josh Jackson class) will be RFAs this summer as well.

Dennis Schroder (28)
Evan Fournier (28)
Kelly Oubre Jr (25)
Spencer Dinwiddie (28) (Player Option)
Josh Richardson (28)
Normal Powell (28)
Derrick Jones Jr (24)
Montrezz Harrel (27)
Lonzo Ball (23)
Lauri Markkanen (24)
Elfrid Payton (27)
Andre Drummond (27)
Bruh it ain't anything on this list worth discussing.

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Post#4 » by Pharaoh » Tue Apr 20, 2021 11:15 pm

Isn't Diallo a RFA?

Think we retain him, upgrade Lee & Frank Jackson and that's it.

Hayes, Lee
2021, Diallo, FJ
Bey, JJ
Grant, Sekou
Stewart, Plumlee, Okafor

Plus the TOR & CHA 2nds = a roster of 14

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Post#5 » by FloridaMan78 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:05 am

DetroitSho wrote:
bstein14 wrote:Pistons are one of only 6 teams projected to have more than MLE in Free Agency. I know many people here want to use that space just to take on a contract and get a draft pick or two out of it, but with so few teams with cap space could this put Detroit in a position to get a bargain FA signing of a starter to add to our core? It happened back in July 2002 when Detroit signed Billups to an MLE deal that ended up being a bargain for a young player that turned into an all-star with us.

Some of that will depend on where we draft, and if we try and re-up a few of our own FA's such as DSJ, Saban Lee, Frank Jackson, Tyler Cook, CoJo, etc.

Being a team that can likely offer both a starting spot, and a team that can offer more than MLE might mean we can lure a FA that could become a solid piece of our core much like Grant has become.

Some names that come to mind. I'm only looking at guys that are 28 and younger as anyone else would be too old for what we're building here most likely. The 2017 rookie class (Fueltz, Ball, Tatum, Josh Jackson class) will be RFAs this summer as well.

Dennis Schroder (28)
Evan Fournier (28)
Kelly Oubre Jr (25)
Spencer Dinwiddie (28) (Player Option)
Josh Richardson (28)
Normal Powell (28)
Derrick Jones Jr (24)
Montrezz Harrel (27)
Lonzo Ball (23)
Lauri Markkanen (24)
Elfrid Payton (27)
Andre Drummond (27)
Bruh it ain't anything on this list worth discussing.

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Yup. We should try and sign Frank Jackson on minimum deal. Cut/trade Cojo, not sure if Diallo will sign for a decent deal.

If we don’t take on any major salaries in 2021, we could have over 60 million in cap space in 2022. Top tier unrestricted free agents like Steph, Paul, Kawhi, Lavine, Aaron Gordon, Rozier, Julius Randle, player option guys like Harden, Russ, KD, Beal, Butler, Kyrie. And restricted guys like Luka, Trae, Shai’s class.
It’s going to be crazy. Even if we don’t hit on any of the super stars, there’s still a lot. We could be decisive and go after a few that don’t want to wait for the big names to fall into place.

If we’re looking to keep Grant, 2022 free agency will have to be the target since we’ll have to resign him in 2023.

Draft is huge, but 2022 free agency is where I think it’s make or break, and we should be in a good position for it. Let the kids grow 1 more year.
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Post#6 » by chrbal » Wed Apr 21, 2021 12:08 am

No thank you. You figure we have both our starting forwards on the roster, our 3 man center depth chart, if we resign Lee and F Jackson that and Hayes we have all our pgs, Sekou is part of our frontcourt, J Jackson and a resigned Diallo that’s two key wings.

There’s really not a spot to give a key free agent unless you want to push the guys you’re developing down the depth chart. Or you want to move on from sekou.

I just think we are better off using the extra cap space after the draft and hopefully resigning Jackson,Lee,and Diallo were better off acquiring a veteran with hopefully compensation.

I say all this and probably be way off weavers mad scientist plan.
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Post#7 » by zeebneeb » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:09 am

I like Laurie in that list
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Post#8 » by Snakebites » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:14 am

It’s mostly because it’s not a great year for free agents. Most teams didn’t plan for free agency at that time.
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Post#9 » by DBC10 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 1:21 am

zeebneeb wrote:I like Laurie in that list


Same here. I think he needs a change of scenery a long time ago
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Post#10 » by MotownMadness » Wed Apr 21, 2021 3:18 am

I just wanna come back with the same team and the new rookies. Without Joseph though obviously
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Post#11 » by buzzkilloton » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:34 am

Add free agents after we have a superstar or two. I like what we have going so far but I dont see the superstar we need to win a title. Draft that guy and then we can talk free agents.
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Post#12 » by tmorgan » Wed Apr 21, 2021 5:15 am

There’s basically nothing there worth pursuing. Seems far more likely we’ll use whatever space we have for imbalanced trades, either get picks or to pick up a player Weaver likes while moving on from someone he doesn’t. Sure would love to move Okafor right along.
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Post#13 » by jakebernat » Wed Apr 21, 2021 2:14 pm

keep an eye on talen horton tucker, wouldn’t be surprised if we’re somehow connected to him at some point.
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Post#14 » by Betarayjigs » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:28 pm

One of my concerns with the offseason is the Pistons try to rush the process, Stan did it and boxed in his options. This young team isn't good enough yet for that approach and I think more FA signings is more likely to cap their potential than bump them into the playoffs.

Taking on a year or 2 contract for a worthwhile pick? Ok that could be good.

Signing Avg role-player? No. Already have one of those in Plumlee and thankfully that has worked out ok. The next one is more likely a John Lauer Result than a Plumlee result.
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Post#15 » by edmunder_prc » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:35 pm

Corey Joseph and odd his contract is going out. Junk plus a pick is coming back. Since the team will have more room, hopefully something big comes back with a decent first round pick.

This team already went way, way too fast. Pistons were 2 years away, not immediate ECF contenders.

Plus the pickings look pretty bad. Anyone with talent is signing big contracts with their team, getting as much money as possible and then whining to be traded if it doesn't work out. Or going to the Nets/Lakers/LAC.

Lonzo Ball (23)
Lauri Markkanen (24)

Those look the best, but they aren't signing for the MLE.

Year Standard MLE Taxpayer MLE Room MLE
2020/21 $9,755,000 $6,025,000 $5,023,000
2021/22 $10,242,750 $6,326,250 $5,274,150
2022/23 $10,730,500 $6,627,500 –
2023/24 $11,218,250 – –
Total $41,946,500 $18,978,750 $10,297,150
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Post#16 » by MotownMadness » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:51 pm

jakebernat wrote:keep an eye on talen horton tucker, wouldn’t be surprised if we’re somehow connected to him at some point.

That would be awesome
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Post#17 » by ducler » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:53 pm

Ntilikina is the type of guy I could see Weaver take a chance on. Long athlete, defensive minded, former high lottery pick.
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Post#18 » by Drwho17 » Wed Apr 21, 2021 4:55 pm

jakebernat wrote:keep an eye on talen horton tucker, wouldn’t be surprised if we’re somehow connected to him at some point.

I don't think he fits the Weaver type of athlete mold very well.

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