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Which Pistons player do you think would be most likely to take a big jump next season.

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Which Pistons player do you think would be most likely to take a big jump next season.

Saddiq Bey
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25%
Isiah Stewart
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11%
Killian Hayes
19
53%
Sekou Dembouya
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Josh Jackson
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Frank Jackson
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No votes
Saban Lee
1
3%
Hamidou Diallo
3
8%
 
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Which Pistons player do you think would be most likely to take a big jump next season. 

Post#1 » by bstein14 » Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:13 am

If I told you a Pistons player will be a top 3 finals for Most Improved Player in 2022, who would you think it will be? Or, another way of looking at this question, is which player do you think would be most likely to take a big jump next season.
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Post#2 » by vege » Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:37 am

Killian Hayes can't get any worse than he was last season, so it's likely him, but I still think he's a bad fit with Cade (he can't do **** without the ball on his hands) so I want him gone asap.

I would like for Saddiq Bey to have a big jump on his defense, that would be huge for us.
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Post#3 » by Manocad » Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:41 pm

IMO the biggest opportunity for improvement is easily Hayes with Sekou being second. Not that every other player on the list can't get better, but I think those two represent the biggest gap between where they are today and what they could be.
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Post#4 » by rmfc » Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:13 pm

Killian Hayes. If Killian improves his jumper, Cade and him can be a great combination for the Pistons for a long time.
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Post#5 » by Liqourish » Sun Jul 11, 2021 6:50 pm

I think it’s Bey. He’s got a year under his belt. He knows how the NBA works now. He’s playing for the select team, and he’s going to benefit from having Cade with him.

Killian has the most room for growth, but I don’t think the “French connection” fits this rebuild any longer. It’s ironic that they are the pairing we originally wanted to build around, but they are the odd two out right now and I’m not sure it’s going to pan out with Cade/Bey/Stewart now the foundation.
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Post#6 » by Snakebites » Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:20 pm

In all truth, this is going to be Hayes' actual rookie year for most intents and purposes- he's got a lot to figure out, so I think he's on the lower end of probability even with more room to grow.

I'll go with Bey. There's also a chance he has a sophomore slump, but I think it's also very possible with everything he learned last year that he's the one who actually makes the break.
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Post#7 » by Kilo » Sun Jul 11, 2021 8:34 pm

I don't think second year players can really be MIP contention. So to me it really comes down to Doumbouya, Josh Jackson, Frank Jackson and Hamidou Diallo. And I don't think both JJ and Hami will be on the team next year. And I think Frank Jackson is a niche bench shooter and thus not going to get any MIP consideration - he's too short to play big minutes in the league, though with Cade and Hayes taller potential lead guards, I guess he at least has better chance playing bigger minutes in Detroit.

I'll guess Josh Jackson will be added to a Mason Plumlee trade on draft night.

So it's down to Hami vs Sekou. I went with Hamidou Diallo as he's shown extended flashes. But I wouldn't go a penny over the MLE for him. No team will offer more than that I can't imagine. Let the market price him and then match if <MLE. Sekou should be getting 35mpg for the Motor City Cruise all season.
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Post#8 » by SamFlow » Mon Jul 12, 2021 5:58 am

Kilo wrote:I don't think second year players can really be MIP contention. So to me it really comes down to Doumbouya, Josh Jackson, Frank Jackson and Hamidou Diallo. And I don't think both JJ and Hami will be on the team next year. And I think Frank Jackson is a niche bench shooter and thus not going to get any MIP consideration - he's too short to play big minutes in the league, though with Cade and Hayes taller potential lead guards, I guess he at least has better chance playing bigger minutes in Detroit.

I'll guess Josh Jackson will be added to a Mason Plumlee trade on draft night.

So it's down to Hami vs Sekou. I went with Hamidou Diallo as he's shown extended flashes. But I wouldn't go a penny over the MLE for him. No team will offer more than that I can't imagine. Let the market price him and then match if <MLE. Sekou should be getting 35mpg for the Motor City Cruise all season.

I agree with HD. He has it in him to be a starter. He just needs to be consistent and improve his outside shooting and know when to push and when to pull back. I think of him as a combo guard.
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Post#9 » by Pharaoh » Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:06 am

Diallo (if he's here) or Sekou

Can't really say 2nd year players since they're expected to improve anyway.

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Post#12 » by 440BB » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:22 pm

I'd really like it to be Sekou but don't expect that to happen. He has a better chance with a normal off season and some focused work, but I don't know if the desire is there.

If second year players are in the mix I'd go with Saben Lee, whose speed and style might be a good change of pace at PG. Wishful thinking once again, as it would likely take an injury/poor play by Hayes or Cade to get him enough minutes. Hayes is most likely among second year players to blossom with a constructive healthy off season and far less pressure going in to 2021.

Most likely Diallo, as signing here is probably for less than he hoped for and he'll be hungry. Good chance he'll absorb Weaver and Casey's guidance and round out his game.
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Post#13 » by bstein14 » Mon Jul 12, 2021 1:53 pm

What teams out there are willing to give Diallo MLE money? I can't think that anyone would. I think 3 years $15 to $18 million is reasonable but perhaps someone is higher on his potential. I would have a hard time going more than 3 years $21 million because right now we don't know if he is much more than some nice scoring off the bench, which is something we got out of Josh Jackson for $5 million per. He shot the 3 point ball really well with Detroit (39%) but in such a limited number of games its hard to know if it was just a bit of a hot streak, or if he has really worked on his shot to the point of being a good outside shooter. If he can knock down 39+% he's likely good enough to pencil in as a starter next to Cade but that is yet to be seen.

One thing with Diallo is, he is still just 22 years old. He played one year at Kentucky and then was a 2nd round pick. He would be in this draft if he stayed 4 years in college so he really does fit in with the young core, its just a matter of whether or not someone pays him more than we can/want to.

It will be interesting to see what Diallo gets compared to guys like Bruce Brown, Gary Trent Jr(2nd round pick from same draft class as Diallo that is also 22 years old), Terrance Davis, THT... there are actually a bunch of SG's and wing players that are young with potential but there obviously isn't going to be money to go around for everyone.
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Post#14 » by Pharaoh » Tue Jul 13, 2021 7:17 am

If you look at the numbers Diallo put up as a starter in OKC (& watched any of those big games) the potential is obviously there for him to become something "more"

The drama is that he hasn't shown it consistently enough to warrant a big number.

Need to remember that any contract he gets eats into our cap flexibility next off-season too.

A 3 year deal for $5 mil per? Cool

A 3 year deal for $10 mil per? Congrats but bye

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Post#15 » by FloridaMan78 » Tue Jul 13, 2021 1:08 pm

Pharaoh wrote:If you look at the numbers Diallo put up as a starter in OKC (& watched any of those big games) the potential is obviously there for him to become something "more"

The drama is that he hasn't shown it consistently enough to warrant a big number.

Need to remember that any contract he gets eats into our cap flexibility next off-season too.

A 3 year deal for $5 mil per? Cool

A 3 year deal for $10 mil per? Congrats but bye

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Yea he’s getting more than 5 mil. Probably less than 10 mil but I wouldn’t be surprised if he got 10 from some one. I’d give him a 1 year 10 mil to prove himself.

His stats are really deceiving. His 3pt percentage is the same as Frank Jackson, but who would you draw up a play to take a spot up 3 coming off a screen to win a game? He needs rhythm dribbles to take his shot which defeats any purpose to an offense. If you like ISO hero ball he’s your guy.
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Post#16 » by DetroitSho » Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:15 pm

Why are people excluding 2nd year players? That makes no sense.

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