[Lawrence] Pistons in Mix for John Wall

[DBC10]

A helpful reminder Wall makes an insurmountable $47 million per year this year but is an expiring. Minimum we would have to give up Grant and KO just for salary along with any other scraps we would have to work around. It's just not feasible, near an impossibility from an ideal standpoint

This is incorrect.

He has a player option in 22-23.

Makes it even worse then. I mis-read the hoopshype page

But yeah, that's a no for me dawg

[Snakebites]

A helpful reminder Wall makes an insurmountable $47 million per year this year but is an expiring. Minimum we would have to give up Grant and KO just for salary along with any other scraps we would have to work around. It's just not feasible, near an impossibility from an ideal standpoint

This is incorrect.

He has a player option in 22-23.

Makes it even worse then. I mis-read the hoopshype page

But yeah, that's a no for me dawg

Yeah, we no longer have the large amount of low impact salary to use as a filler in a deal like this. No more Leuer, Galloway, Boban, Blake, etc.

Unfortunately at the moment it’s been largely replaced with immovable dead cap from stretches and buyouts, but at least the largest portion of that is gone in a year.

[theBigLip]

Just echoing everyone else's thoughts. We are finally on a good rebuild plan, we finally got some lotto luck. Trading for Wall without an excessive package of picks makes no sense. Let the season begin and let's get this young team some playing time!

[Invictus88]

The post from Lawrence is just another prime example of non-Detroit media truly not caring enough to see if what they are talking about makes any semblance of sense for the Pistons whatsoever.

They don't even try. In everyone else's eyes we are literally a theoretical dumping ground for everything that more 'interesting' or favored teams want to get rid of with little to no real drawback or consequence. These guys come up with this nonsense just to have something to get clicks/follows/retweets/whatever.

Nobody ends up calling out these folks because the ridiculous statements are being made about Detroit. If you were to instead take the same stories and substitute the Lakers (if they had a bunch of young prospects and were undergoing a rebuild) instead those very same people would be labeled laughingstocks by their peers.

[Snakebites]

The post from Lawrence is just another prime example of non-Detroit media truly not caring enough to see if what they are talking about makes any semblance of sense for the Pistons whatsoever.

They don't even try. In everyone else's eyes we are literally a theoretical dumping ground for everything that more 'interesting' or favored teams want to get rid of with little to no real drawback or consequence. These guys come up with this nonsense just to have something to get clicks/follows/retweets/whatever.

Nobody ends up calling out these folks because the ridiculous statements are being made about Detroit. If you were to instead take the same stories and substitute the Lakers (if they had a bunch of young prospects and were undergoing a rebuild) instead those very same people would be labeled laughingstocks by their peers.

Honestly, I get the lack of respect Detroit gets from outsiders, but this isn’t the right situation to bang that drum.

EVERY team has their own so-called media folks that post stuff that makes no sense for other teams.

We weren’t the target audience for that, Rockets fans were.

This didn’t fail to get backlash because it was Detroit. It failed to get backlash because it was a nothing post by no-one.

[Invictus88]

The post from Lawrence is just another prime example of non-Detroit media truly not caring enough to see if what they are talking about makes any semblance of sense for the Pistons whatsoever.

They don't even try. In everyone else's eyes we are literally a theoretical dumping ground for everything that more 'interesting' or favored teams want to get rid of with little to no real drawback or consequence. These guys come up with this nonsense just to have something to get clicks/follows/retweets/whatever.

Nobody ends up calling out these folks because the ridiculous statements are being made about Detroit. If you were to instead take the same stories and substitute the Lakers (if they had a bunch of young prospects and were undergoing a rebuild) instead those very same people would be labeled laughingstocks by their peers.

Honestly, I get the lack of respect Detroit gets from outsiders, but this isn’t the right situation to bang that drum.

EVERY team has their own so-called media folks that post stuff that makes no sense for other teams.

We weren’t the target audience for that, Rockets fans were.

This didn’t fail to get backlash because it was Detroit. It failed to get backlash because it was a nothing post by no-one.

I'm not expecting anything to change from what I posted. However, it's a bit presumptuous for you to declare when it is or isn't a right time to complain about it.

I mean. When, in your infinite wisdom, is an appropriate situation?

It's not unreasonable to expect even the lightest of common sense sanity checks from so-called sources of information. This is true whether the guy is speaking to your team or another's. As a Pistons fan I'd expect that from our so-called media sources as well (as should Rockets fans)

Pointing these types of shenanigans out as they happen helps keep these nobodies just that; at least from my perspective.

I also truly believe there is a negative slant in general from media types regarding Detroit. Maybe it's personal bias on my part? I don't think so though?

[Snakebites]

The post from Lawrence is just another prime example of non-Detroit media truly not caring enough to see if what they are talking about makes any semblance of sense for the Pistons whatsoever.

They don't even try. In everyone else's eyes we are literally a theoretical dumping ground for everything that more 'interesting' or favored teams want to get rid of with little to no real drawback or consequence. These guys come up with this nonsense just to have something to get clicks/follows/retweets/whatever.

Nobody ends up calling out these folks because the ridiculous statements are being made about Detroit. If you were to instead take the same stories and substitute the Lakers (if they had a bunch of young prospects and were undergoing a rebuild) instead those very same people would be labeled laughingstocks by their peers.

Honestly, I get the lack of respect Detroit gets from outsiders, but this isn’t the right situation to bang that drum.

EVERY team has their own so-called media folks that post stuff that makes no sense for other teams.

We weren’t the target audience for that, Rockets fans were.

This didn’t fail to get backlash because it was Detroit. It failed to get backlash because it was a nothing post by no-one.

I'm not expecting anything to change from what I posted. However, it's a bit presumptuous for you to declare when it is or isn't a right time to complain about it.

I mean. When, in your infinite wisdom, is an appropriate situation?

It's not unreasonable to expect even the lightest of common sense sanity checks from so-called sources of information. This is true whether the guy is speaking to your team or another's. As a Pistons fan I'd expect that from our so-called media sources as well (as should Rockets fans)

Pointing these types of shenanigans out as they happen helps keep these nobodies just that; at least from my perspective.

I also truly believe there is a negative slant in general from media types regarding Detroit. Maybe it's personal bias on my part? I don't think so though?

A lot to unpack here.

YES, I do think there is a negative slant against Detroit from outsiders. That's...literally in the very first sentence of my post. So your question that closes out your post is puzzling.

I don't think this is the right time to bang on that drum not because of any presumption on my part, but because I don't think the original report is an example of said disrespect, it's the sort of nonsense EVERY fanbase deals with if they choose to wade into the world of other teams' beat writers. Fans of other teams will find similar crap in the history of Detroit beat writers. When we had Blake, he was linked to all sorts of teams that never would have made a move for him in a million years.

John Wall's contract makes no sense for any team unless they're getting massive assets back. We were not the only team mentioned. The media-darling LA franchise got a nod too. This, simply put, is a nobody beat writer from Texas who's target audience for that post was Rockets fans and Rockets fans only.

So yeah. TL;DR, I think the Pistons don't get a lot of respect from media outside of Detroit. I just think an abstract trade report that doesn't even mention details, nor does it mention the Pistons exclusively, is a particularly good example of it.

[FloridaMan78]

The trade I could see is some how getting Wall to the 76ers.

Jerami Grant and Wall to the 76ers

Ben Simmons to Detroit

Hayes, Josh Jackson, Tobias Harris to Houston. They'll probably want picks too.

[pistons4ever]

In this trade Houston would get to much for wall..so why to give picks away????

[FloridaMan78]

In this trade Houston would get to much for wall..so why to give picks away????

Harris’ contract is worse with the extra year.

[Invictus88]

Honestly, I get the lack of respect Detroit gets from outsiders, but this isn’t the right situation to bang that drum.

EVERY team has their own so-called media folks that post stuff that makes no sense for other teams.

We weren’t the target audience for that, Rockets fans were.

This didn’t fail to get backlash because it was Detroit. It failed to get backlash because it was a nothing post by no-one.

I'm not expecting anything to change from what I posted. However, it's a bit presumptuous for you to declare when it is or isn't a right time to complain about it.

I mean. When, in your infinite wisdom, is an appropriate situation?

It's not unreasonable to expect even the lightest of common sense sanity checks from so-called sources of information. This is true whether the guy is speaking to your team or another's. As a Pistons fan I'd expect that from our so-called media sources as well (as should Rockets fans)

Pointing these types of shenanigans out as they happen helps keep these nobodies just that; at least from my perspective.

I also truly believe there is a negative slant in general from media types regarding Detroit. Maybe it's personal bias on my part? I don't think so though?

A lot to unpack here.

YES, I do think there is a negative slant against Detroit from outsiders. That's...literally in the very first sentence of my post. So your question that closes out your post is puzzling.

I don't think this is the right time to bang on that drum not because of any presumption on my part, but because I don't think the original report is an example of said disrespect, it's the sort of nonsense EVERY fanbase deals with if they choose to wade into the world of other teams' beat writers. Fans of other teams will find similar crap in the history of Detroit beat writers. When we had Blake, he was linked to all sorts of teams that never would have made a move for him in a million years.

John Wall's contract makes no sense for any team unless they're getting massive assets back. We were not the only team mentioned. The media-darling LA franchise got a nod too. This, simply put, is a nobody beat writer from Texas who's target audience for that post was Rockets fans and Rockets fans only.

So yeah. TL;DR, I think the Pistons don't get a lot of respect from media outside of Detroit. I just think an abstract trade report that doesn't even mention details, nor does it mention the Pistons exclusively, is a particularly good example of it.

Sorry. I wasn't meaning to imply that you didn't believe there was a lack of respect from Nationsl media towards Detroit. Rather, it was an attempt by me to justify in part why I was speaking up. It was also a bit of a self-check.

We'll have to agree to disagree w/regards to Blake specifically. I really don't recall even the smallest of rumblings from anyone about potential trades while in Detroit. It was generally accepted at the time we traded for him that it was a horrible contract from the jump. People were giving accolades to the Clippers for undoing a previous wrong by offloading him. I'll leave open ghe possibility of my selective memory letting me down but I truly don't recall anything.

I also don't think you give our fanbase or Houston's enough credit for being able to see bull**** fed to them and deserving of better. Saying or implying "this messaging wasn't aimed for us" and using that as an excuse for posting stories lacking basic common sense just doesn't work for me. We all deserve better than that.

Appreciate the reply Snakebites. Counting the days till 10/6.