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Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST

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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#201 » by NYPiston » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:35 pm

edmunder_prc wrote:Pistons could use all the guards they got rid of:

Delon Wright, Bruce Brown, Derrick Rose, maybe Dennis Smith Jr?

Pretty surprising how poorly Frank Jackson is playing/shooting. Killian looks about the same as last year so far - 15th man with possible upside. Diallo looks so bad I was confused who he was. Corey Joseph looked a lot better last year - but that was full on, super tank. Maybe other teams stopped trying.

Will be very interesting in a couple years to see how all this plays out. Maybe trading Cade for more picks would have been better? Top 10 all look so good far.


Uh, what?

Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?
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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#202 » by 440BB » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:47 pm

NYPiston wrote:
edmunder_prc wrote:Pistons could use all the guards they got rid of:

Delon Wright, Bruce Brown, Derrick Rose, maybe Dennis Smith Jr?

Pretty surprising how poorly Frank Jackson is playing/shooting. Killian looks about the same as last year so far - 15th man with possible upside. Diallo looks so bad I was confused who he was. Corey Joseph looked a lot better last year - but that was full on, super tank. Maybe other teams stopped trying.

Will be very interesting in a couple years to see how all this plays out. Maybe trading Cade for more picks would have been better? Top 10 all look so good far.


Uh, what?

Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?


The guy's been on the roster all season and hasn't scored one point. His only saving grace is a lack of turnovers but I think we've seen enough to at least have premature buyers remorse.
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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#203 » by Invictus88 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:52 pm

440BB wrote:
NYPiston wrote:
edmunder_prc wrote:Pistons could use all the guards they got rid of:

Delon Wright, Bruce Brown, Derrick Rose, maybe Dennis Smith Jr?

Pretty surprising how poorly Frank Jackson is playing/shooting. Killian looks about the same as last year so far - 15th man with possible upside. Diallo looks so bad I was confused who he was. Corey Joseph looked a lot better last year - but that was full on, super tank. Maybe other teams stopped trying.

Will be very interesting in a couple years to see how all this plays out. Maybe trading Cade for more picks would have been better? Top 10 all look so good far.


Uh, what?

Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?


The guy's been on the roster all season and hasn't scored one point. His only saving grace is a lack of turnovers but I think we've seen enough to at least have premature buyers remorse.


Yeah. If you can't shoot jump shots straight out of the womb then there's no chance you can ever develop the skills to do so later. It's the same way with all basketball skills. I mean, if I'm a parent and I see my 3-year-old having troubles with his left hand off the dribble then it's off to the orphanage I go with him. It's never too early to jump ship.
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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#204 » by Manocad » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:10 pm

Invictus88 wrote:
440BB wrote:
NYPiston wrote:
Uh, what?

Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?


The guy's been on the roster all season and hasn't scored one point. His only saving grace is a lack of turnovers but I think we've seen enough to at least have premature buyers remorse.


Yeah. If you can't shoot jump shots straight out of the womb then there's no chance you can ever develop the skills to do so later. It's the same way with all basketball skills. I mean, if I'm a parent and I see my 3-year-old having troubles with his left hand off the dribble then it's off to the orphanage I go with him. It's never too early to jump ship.

Reading 101, guys. It was suggested (the bolded part of the original post) that it might have been better to trade down from Cade/#1 pick for more picks, thus the response was "Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?" That's about Cade, not Killian.
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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#205 » by 440BB » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:14 pm

Manocad wrote:
Invictus88 wrote:
440BB wrote:
The guy's been on the roster all season and hasn't scored one point. His only saving grace is a lack of turnovers but I think we've seen enough to at least have premature buyers remorse.


Yeah. If you can't shoot jump shots straight out of the womb then there's no chance you can ever develop the skills to do so later. It's the same way with all basketball skills. I mean, if I'm a parent and I see my 3-year-old having troubles with his left hand off the dribble then it's off to the orphanage I go with him. It's never too early to jump ship.

Reading 101, guys. It was suggested (the bolded part of the original post) that it might have been better to trade down from Cade/#1 pick for more picks, thus the response was "Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?" That's about Cade, not Killian.

Perhaps your sarcasm radar is on the fritz. :D
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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#206 » by Manocad » Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:24 pm

440BB wrote:
Manocad wrote:
Invictus88 wrote:
Yeah. If you can't shoot jump shots straight out of the womb then there's no chance you can ever develop the skills to do so later. It's the same way with all basketball skills. I mean, if I'm a parent and I see my 3-year-old having troubles with his left hand off the dribble then it's off to the orphanage I go with him. It's never too early to jump ship.

Reading 101, guys. It was suggested (the bolded part of the original post) that it might have been better to trade down from Cade/#1 pick for more picks, thus the response was "Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?" That's about Cade, not Killian.

Perhaps your sarcasm radar is on the fritz. :D

Son of a biscuit...that's the second time today.
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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#207 » by edmunder_prc » Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:10 pm

NYPiston wrote:
edmunder_prc wrote:Pistons could use all the guards they got rid of:

Delon Wright, Bruce Brown, Derrick Rose, maybe Dennis Smith Jr?

Pretty surprising how poorly Frank Jackson is playing/shooting. Killian looks about the same as last year so far - 15th man with possible upside. Diallo looks so bad I was confused who he was. Corey Joseph looked a lot better last year - but that was full on, super tank. Maybe other teams stopped trying.

Will be very interesting in a couple years to see how all this plays out. Maybe trading Cade for more picks would have been better? Top 10 all look so good far.


Uh, what?

Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?


Its not about Cade - the team looks bare. No one thinks Cade will be Lebron level talent.

Again - maybe - we'll see.

Bey looks improved in a few areas but forgot how to shoot 3s (or he doesnt get catch and shoot opportunities). Stewart looks better in some ways but worse in others. Doesnt seem to rebound like he did last season which was his real strong suit. Grant looks tired like he did at the end of last season. KO is just another guy.

Roster looks to have 2 guys that are part of the future (so far). Which is awful for the team's development. Bey/Grant get to dribble into triple teams because no one can shoot and defenses wait.

We'll all know more in a couple years but just seeing how talented most of the lottery picks are - having 2-3 instead of 1 might have been a better choice.
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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#208 » by Invictus88 » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:06 pm

Manocad wrote:
440BB wrote:
Manocad wrote:Reading 101, guys. It was suggested (the bolded part of the original post) that it might have been better to trade down from Cade/#1 pick for more picks, thus the response was "Can we see him play at least one NBA game before declaring buyers remorse?" That's about Cade, not Killian.

Perhaps your sarcasm radar is on the fritz. :D

Son of a biscuit...that's the second time today.

I guess I should have used green font :D
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Re: Game 3: Pistons (0-2) @ Hawks (1-1) - Oct. 25 7:30 PM EST 

Post#209 » by NYPiston » Fri Oct 29, 2021 1:15 pm

edmunder_prc wrote:
Its not about Cade - the team looks bare. No one thinks Cade will be Lebron level talent.

Again - maybe - we'll see.

Bey looks improved in a few areas but forgot how to shoot 3s (or he doesnt get catch and shoot opportunities). Stewart looks better in some ways but worse in others. Doesnt seem to rebound like he did last season which was his real strong suit. Grant looks tired like he did at the end of last season. KO is just another guy.

Roster looks to have 2 guys that are part of the future (so far). Which is awful for the team's development. Bey/Grant get to dribble into triple teams because no one can shoot and defenses wait.

We'll all know more in a couple years but just seeing how talented most of the lottery picks are - having 2-3 instead of 1 might have been a better choice.


Well, first of all, we don't know if two high lottery picks were even offered for 1st overall. Yes, I would have strongly considered #2+#3,4 or 5 if it turned out that way for OKC but it didn't happen.

Second, picks 2-5 aren't exactly lighting the world on fire. Green has had an awful start to the season, Mobley has had a nice start but nothing outrageously good, Suggs has had an awful start, Barnes looks good but again, 5 games.

Third, can we try to root on Cade instead of thinking of what life would be like without him as a Piston? At least watch him play one NBA game before saying that he should have been traded. I mean, come on guys.

I get what you're saying about adding more talent but they'll have another very very high lottery pick this draft so your thirst will be quenched soon enough. :wink:

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